Shooting at Fort Hood..

[Jesuslove]

Originally Posted by Musicdude

I'm not calling for profiling because of one isolated event. That would be stupid. In case you've had your head in the sand (or somewhere else) in the last few years, yesterday's occurence is not the first time something like this has happened recently by our peace-loving muslim friends.

While your at it, why don't you and your buddies round up the Wiccans, the Jews, the gays, the trade unionists, etc. etc. After all, they are all the enemy (of the conservative movement).

[Musicdude]

Originally Posted by Jesuslove

While your at it, why don't you and your buddies round up the Wiccans, the Jews, the gays, the trade unionists, etc. etc. After all, they are all the enemy (of the conservative movement).

Who said anything about rounding anyone up? Man, you guys sure know how to exaggerate.

Oh, and please don't group the Jews in with the Gays and Wiccans. That is extremely offensive to the Jews.



I'm out of this conversation. It's getting pretty nasty and unproductive.

[Shonsu]

Originally Posted by Jesuslove

While your at it, why don't you and your buddies round up the Wiccans, the Jews, the gays, the trade unionists, etc. etc. After all, they are all the enemy (of the conservative movement).

Just remember your words in the future when you have to follow Sharia Law here in the US. Don't think it can happen? Take a look at what's going on in the UK. Like I said before, it is the stated goal of Muslims worldwide to bring Sharia Law into all lands by force or by subterfuge. Too many people here have their heads in the sand.

[Valpo]

I am for the most part here agreeing with JL. Signs of the end times to be sure.

Dude of Music: Do we ban all Roman Catholics from active duty bc of terrorism in Ireland by a certain group of people? Do we ban protestants? Who gets to serve? I understand that Islamic Extremism is a bigger brand here but it sets a dangerous precedent to be banning people based on creed and it severely limits freedom. JL is right that many Muslims serve the US honorably.

Take it a step further, do we ban millennial dispensationalists from the military bc they have a vested interest in protecting Israel not for the sake of it being a Democracy but for the sake of "reigning in God's kingdom?"

To me it just sets a dangerous precedent to start banning people based on beliefs. Whether or not the Koran says to kill infidels, many Muslims in fact do not practice this. There are varying factions of Islam and many American Muslims are quite peaceful. They're theology is still wrong, but they're peaceful. Again on the front lines I'd rather have someone next to me who has got a good shot than good theology. We can work on the theology around a campfire.

At what point does the banning or the limiting stop? I have concerns about that.

[Valpo]

Originally Posted by Shonsu

Just remember your words in the future when you have to follow Sharia Law here in the US. Don't think it can happen? Take a look at what's going on in the UK. Like I said before, it is the stated goal of Muslims worldwide to bring Sharia Law into all lands by force or by subterfuge. Too many people here have their heads in the sand.

Highly doubtful. Even further more it is doubtful this would happen in JL's or any of our lifetimes. America will go anti religious secular before Islamic Extremist. So you will be persecuted for having faith at all, not the "wrong" faith.

And not that I invite persecution, but I remember Jesus saying something about being blessed for being persecuted on account of his name. Remember, the church is not supposed to be some culture within (or out) a culture cut off from the rest of the world. Our citizenship is in heaven, but we march around on this dying earth. We are going to engage hardships.

[Evanescence]

Deport all white people...

[Shonsu]

Originally Posted by Valpo

Highly doubtful. Even further more it is doubtful this would happen in JL's or any of our lifetimes. America will go anti religious secular before Islamic Extremist. So you will be persecuted for having faith at all, not the "wrong" faith.

And not that I invite persecution, but I remember Jesus saying something about being blessed for being persecuted on account of his name. Remember, the church is not supposed to be some culture within (or out) a culture cut off from the rest of the world. Our citizenship is in heaven, but we march around on this dying earth. We are going to engage hardships.

Well, I believe we are headed for a one-world government/religious system (and fairly soon). The only one that fits the bill is Islam/Sharia.

[Evanescence]

NWO coming soon....and people will embrace it

[Jesuslove]

Originally Posted by Musicdude

Who said anything about rounding anyone up? Man, you guys sure know how to exaggerate.

Oh, and please don't group the Jews in with the Gays and Wiccans. That is extremely offensive to the Jews.

God loves all people. The Jews of today aren't better than the average person. And yes, I believe God loves Wiccans too.

[Jesuslove]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...a geId=115230

WND claims there is a link between Hasan and the Obama administration. Cheewiee, is this WND gossip? Is this any different than Prejean porno leaks?

[Howlin' Wolf]

Originally Posted by Shonsu

Well, I believe we are headed for a one-world government/religious system (and fairly soon). The only one that fits the bill is Islam/Sharia.

Maybe you shouldn't read so much Left Behind.

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

[HumanityisSaved]

Another big point here is that Obama failed in a defining moment. Hillary was right about him and the 3 am phone call. You don't joke and give shoutouts after such a terrible thing. nObama even got the Medal of Honor thing wrong too. What a joke. This guy is not fit to be president. I hate to say it but I think he's worse than Bush so far. Forget the 3 am phone call he couldn't even give a speech while he was awake. This president needs prayers big time. Pray for him... he is a megalomaniacal child.

[Evanescence]

Please..worse than GWB? he has a LONG way to go...

[Musicdude]

Originally Posted by Valpo

I am for the most part here agreeing with JL. Signs of the end times to be sure.

Dude of Music: Do we ban all Roman Catholics from active duty bc of terrorism in Ireland by a certain group of people? Do we ban protestants? Who gets to serve? I understand that Islamic Extremism is a bigger brand here but it sets a dangerous precedent to be banning people based on creed and it severely limits freedom. JL is right that many Muslims serve the US honorably.

Take it a step further, do we ban millennial dispensationalists from the military bc they have a vested interest in protecting Israel not for the sake of it being a Democracy but for the sake of "reigning in God's kingdom?"

To me it just sets a dangerous precedent to start banning people based on beliefs. Whether or not the Koran says to kill infidels, many Muslims in fact do not practice this. There are varying factions of Islam and many American Muslims are quite peaceful. They're theology is still wrong, but they're peaceful. Again on the front lines I'd rather have someone next to me who has got a good shot than good theology. We can work on the theology around a campfire.

At what point does the banning or the limiting stop? I have concerns about that.

I've already taken that back and said that a background check would be a better idea than just banning all of them. If anything in their background check looks even suspicious and they have no good explanation for it, I say deny them the priviledge of serving in our military.

[Musicdude]

Originally Posted by Jesuslove

God loves all people. The Jews of today aren't better than the average person. And yes, I believe God loves Wiccans too.

I didn't say anything about who God loves and who He doesn't.

But being a Jew by race is not a sin. Being a homosexual or a wiccan is. So you do the math.