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mat1583

08-30-2007, 03:15 PM

Beleive it or not, there are less than 24 hours to go before the kickoff of the new college football season. There are many questions to be answered this year.....

Who will be #1?
Who will win the SEC?
Will Nick Saban be loved in Alabama?
Who will be the Cinderella team this year?
Who will be the most overated team?

What do you think and what else is of intrigue?

1. Hopefully Auburn, but doubtfully so. We've already had a couple chances.
2. Auburn or LSU. Tough to pick right now.
3. Not after he loses his first Iron Bowl to Auburn.
4. You mean like..wearing a dress? Alabama.
5. LSU...as always

oh yeah...I'm an Auburn Fan/Grad/Employee :)

WAR EAGLE!!!!

-washboard

jrmitch

08-30-2007, 04:16 PM

Who will be #1?
Much as I hate to say this, probably the University of Spoiled Children again. (AKA USC). Pete Carroll's built such a monster that Urban Meyer appears to be raiding his players.

Who will win the SEC?
Gotta go w/LSU, just because of their returning depth and how badly the Gators were depleted by the attrition from graduation.

Will Nick Saban be loved in Alabama?
Sadly, 'bama fans have proven their love is about as fickle as a Black Widow. Nick can't graduate his players or honor his contracts. Tide faithful had best remember that you get what you pay for.

Who will be the Cinderella team this year?
I badly want to say Notre Dame, but though I think they'll do better than what many so called 'experts' predict - I think they're gonna shut up a lot of people - I honestly don't know. However, Matt's got a pretty good point - the thought of Nick Saban in a dress is pretty funny.... :)

Who will be the most overated team?
Don't know yet, but with their schedule and inexperience no one can reasonably say Notre Dame this year. If they manage to win 8 or 9 games they'll be worthy of national recognition.

clemsontigers23

08-30-2007, 05:33 PM

Go Clemson. That's all I care about.

Mr.Elwood

08-30-2007, 11:53 PM

My Teams in order of preference.

Bug Eaters (Nebraska for the less informed)
Razorbacks (I have my HogHead for the Hog Pit)
LSU (for a friend!)
Auburn (one of the first schools to recruit me)
Texas (one of the schools interested in me and I was interested in going to)

After that it really doesn’t matter…:P
Personally, Saban ditched his kids for money (in the middle of a possible college dynasty) and didn’t have what it takes to be a pro. I hope he flops and has to go back to teaching phys-ed in a high school some where!! :eek: Leaving on top is just a copout for not having the confidence to repeat your success.

rossid

08-31-2007, 08:34 AM

* Who will be #1? USC whom I dislike as much as Notre Dame when they were a top five program.
* Who will win the SEC? I don't know what teams are in the SEC and always confuse the conference with the ACC. Go Big Ten!
* Will Nick Saban be loved in Alabama? No.
* Who will be the Cinderella team this year? Iowa
* Who will be the most overated team? USC

Kent State, preseason choice to win the MAC, beats the team up the road from me last night.
Kent State 24
Iowa State 14
Gene Chizik has a lot more work to do at ISU.

Ehud Elijah

08-31-2007, 01:38 PM

1) In the highly unlikely event that LSU runs the table (it is the SEC after all), or if USC has one loss going into the end of the season, I'm picking LSU. If USC is undefeated at year end and meets anyone other than LSU, then I'm picking USC.

2) LSU

3) Alabama, regardless of what ESPN or other sports/tabloid entertainment media may tell the general public, does have many realistic fans who know it's highly unlikely that Alabama will win more than 8 games this year (it will probably be 7). That said, Alabama fans will love Nick Saban, and realistic fans know that Tubberville's all-around better team will likely beat Alabama again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Board of Trustee's (Idiots) at Alabama should be shot for: #1 not hiring Bobby Bowden in the early 80's, and #2 not firing Schula after year 2 and hiring Spurrier who, and I quote "would have crawled to Tuscaloosa" for the head coaching job.

4) It could very well be FSU. Bowden has Jimbo Fisher running the offense, which will definitely make them more potent.

5) Notre Dame. Again. But if USC had to play an SEC schedule, then I would say USC.

jrmitch

08-31-2007, 04:42 PM

...But if USC had to play an SEC schedule, then I would say USC.Okay, I need to vent about something that's been bugging me for a couple of years: last year the Big 10 (yeah, I know it's actually 11 schools) played an average schedule that was tougher than the average schedule for the SEC.

And Ehud, I'm not picking on you. But sometimes it seems as though the majority of the college football fans on this section of the boards think that all college football revolves around just the SEC. (This thread is a classic example: the only conference that respondents were asked to pick the champion of was the SEC). News flash, guys: of the 3 winningest teams of all time, none of them are in the deep south. Taking nothing away from the quality of schools like Florida and LSU, you've got just as many doormats in places like Starkville and Nashville as you do in conferences like the Big 12 and Big 10. All college football does not begin and end in the SEC. ;)

clemsontigers23

08-31-2007, 04:47 PM

one of best quarterbacks in the country (Reggie Ball).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :P :P

For one thing, Reggie Ball graduated.

For another, one of the BEST quarterbacks in the country? LOL :D

There's a reason why Clemson was able to put the beatdown on Georgia Tech last year...because Reggie Ball is HORRIBLE. He was NEVER good. Clemson held Calvin Johnson to 0 catches because Reggie Ball couldn't get him the ball! To even have a chance at being drafted he had to enter the draft as a WIDE RECEIVER who ran a 4.8 and couldn't even catch the ball! :D

The quarterback they have now started the bowl game against West Virginia...Taylor Bennett. He played great, but he's still an inexperienced quarterback.

jrmitch

08-31-2007, 05:14 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :P :P

For one thing, Reggie Ball graduated....Ouch - okay, I deserved that...:o :D.

I obviously didn't do my homework; I knew Ball had a big game against the Irish in last years season opener and thought he had a year left. I should know better than to trust my memory.....musta been that experience with all the poo last week :D

Your boys gonna cause a ruckus in the Bowden family by spanking your coaches daddy on Monday night? ;)

clemsontigers23

08-31-2007, 05:26 PM

Ouch - okay, I deserved that...:o :D.

I obviously didn't do my homework; I knew Ball had a big game against the Irish in last years season opener and thought he had a year left. I should know better than to trust my memory.....musta been that experience with all the poo last week :D

Your boys gonna cause a ruckus in the Bowden family by spanking your coaches daddy on Monday night? ;)

We've done it 3 out of 4 years! :D

I think Clemson's gonna surprise some people...they're one of the hardest teams to predict. Some have said 9-3 and an Atlantic Division title...Mark May on ESPN says 6-6, and SI says 7-5.

Hopefully they can get some momentum against FSU...I don't care what anyone says, we have the best running back duo in the country.

freakysoccer

08-31-2007, 06:07 PM

Beleive it or not, there are less than 24 hours to go before the kickoff of the new college football season. There are many questions to be answered this year.....

Who will be #1?
Who will win the SEC?
Will Nick Saban be loved in Alabama?
Who will be the Cinderella team this year?
Who will be the most overated team?

What do you think and what else is of intrigue?

Hopefully bama will be number 1 but i would put my bets on some team like USC.

I think the SEC winner will either be Florida or LSU?

I think that Nick Saban will be loved in alabama.

The two underdogs this year will be ALABAMA and South Carolina

The most overated teams will be LSU and USC.

Ehud Elijah

08-31-2007, 06:08 PM

jrmitch

08-31-2007, 06:11 PM

I think Mark May got kicked in the head one time too many while playing in the NFL. He seems to be one of the most consistently wrong commentators currently covering either college or pro ball for ESPN. (And I really hope the Irish wipe that gloating look off of his face he's had all week in talking about how Notre Dame will be lucky to score against the G-Tech defense and how prepared the Jackets are to come into South Bend. Like a guy who's been the offensive coordinator for 3 Super Bowl champs and groomed one of the 2 best quarterbacks in the NFL won't have his team prepared? Please.....:rolleyes: )

Ooops - that one got a little carried away. Good luck to the Tigers Monday......:D

TLJ

08-31-2007, 06:20 PM

Ehud Elijah

08-31-2007, 06:40 PM

Okay, I need to vent about something that's been bugging me for a couple of years: last year the Big 10 (yeah, I know it's actually 11 schools) played an average schedule that was tougher than the average schedule for the SEC.

And Ehud, I'm not picking on you. But sometimes it seems as though the majority of the college football fans on this section of the boards think that all college football revolves around just the SEC. (This thread is a classic example: the only conference that respondents were asked to pick the champion of was the SEC). News flash, guys: of the 3 winningest teams of all time, none of them are in the deep south. Taking nothing away from the quality of schools like Florida and LSU, you've got just as many doormats in places like Starkville and Nashville as you do in conferences like the Big 12 and Big 10. All college football does not begin and end in the SEC. ;)

True, college football does not begin and end in the SEC, though it ended for Ohio St. and Notre Dame last year in the SEC, shamefully I might add. There are great teams in other Conferences, and the SEC has some doormats (all Mississippi teams, and often Kentucky or Vanderbilt), but the chances of 1 team going undefeated in the SEC is extremely slim, much moreso than other conferences. Just about the only way an SEC team has a chance to play for the national championship is if they are undefeated, and that still isn't guaranteed even if they are clearly 1 of the top 2 teams in the country (see Auburn 2004).
There is a reason FSU and Miami have refused to join the SEC all these years.

I would put the SEC champion up against the other best school in the country, and honestly believe the SEC would come out ahead better than 50% of the time. I think it would have happened in 2004 with Auburn. Also, had USC and LSU played in 2003, I believe LSU would have won.
Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Tommy Tubberville, Nick Saban, Mark Richt, Phillip Fulmer....these are all very high-caliber coaches who have to fight each other for wins.

There are non-SEC teams I have always liked: Oklahoma, Michigan, Texas, Nebraska, who are, or have been, top-tier/elite teams. While these teams, and others, may be very good, I just don't see their conferences being as tough from top to bottom as the SEC.

jrmitch

08-31-2007, 07:09 PM

I'm simply playing the odds. It seems like every year is supposed to be THE year Notre Dame returns to glory, only to seemingly underachieve yet again. If they go 5-1 or 4-2, then no I wouldn't say they were overrated.I certainly can't argue with that; they've got to become nasty enough to close out a season strong and whip up on someone considered their equal in a bowl game. They seem to be moving in that direction with Weiss having scored back to back top 5 recruiting classes (something that hasn't happened since Lou Holtz left) and also landing last years top rated high school quarterback in the country in Jimmie Clausen. They're young right now, but with new defensive coordinator Corwin Brown (who's every bit as intense as Weiss) and more Blue Chip studs than they've had in over a decade, I can't wait to see them in a couple of years. :D
True, college football does not begin and end in the SEC, though it ended for Ohio St. and Notre Dame last year in the SEC, shamefully I might add.Fair enough, though I'll also add it ended in the Big 10 for Tennessee and Arkansas. But at least they deserve credit for making a game out of it. Oh, yeah - even with last years whipping the Irish still have a lifetime record of 49 wins and 19 losses against the SEC; no conference school that has played them at least twice has a winning record against them. :)

However, I'll agree that the SEC is stronger top to bottom than the Big 10 (and definitely than any other conference). And it undoubtedly has more hostile road enclaves than any other conference, which makes a win there even sweeter for any team outside of the conference that is able to escape with one.

truster

09-01-2007, 02:44 AM

So here in Waco, it's officially Saturday morning. And that means one thing....

IT'S GAME DAY!!! GAAAAAAAAAME DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!! ! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ME DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!! !

My beloved Baylor Bears are playing TCWho later today, and the entirety of the Baylor University Golden Wave Band (of which I am a part) is travelling to blast out the brains of the opposing team's fans. How will the Bears do? Good question... I haven't heard anything about this year's team. One thing's for sure, the sad soul who is taking over Shawn Bell's QB position has some big shoes to fill. (I still maintain that if A&M had not knocked out Bell, we would have one that game and ended up going to a bowl game. That's in the past, though....) Anyways...... I'm excited. It's not a home game, so we don't have the excitement that comes along with that type of atmosphere, but I'm still looking foward to the game!

*whistles Superman theme, and waves the Baylor Trumpets flag high over his head*

On a side note, let it be known that being a mere spectator at a college football game offers no comparison to being a band member at a college football game.

IT'S GAME DAY! IT'S GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! !!!!!

Ehud Elijah

09-01-2007, 03:27 AM

I think Charlie Weis is the right man for the job at Notre Dame and he should be getting his stride soon.

rossid

09-01-2007, 08:57 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3000071

Texas WR Billy Pittman was suspended for three games for borrowing a friends car this summer. With my limited knowledge, sure, you don't allow this because boosters/agents can have undue influence.

It just seems strange to the public who may not know the rules.

I think it is a goofy penalty.

freakysoccer

09-01-2007, 07:28 PM

hey everyone, i found out who the most overrated team was!! it WAS MICHIGAN!!!!

jrmitch

09-02-2007, 02:44 AM

Grrr....I can't even find pleasure in the Skunkbears upset because of how bad my Irish looked today. However, that was no slouch of a team that beat Michigan. Appalachian State has won 2 straight Division 1AA titles. At least the Wolverines lost to a team with strong national credibility.

rossid

09-02-2007, 09:38 AM

Notre Dame IS overrated you know.

AS did beat UNI(University of Northern Iowa) in the final one year.

Iowa has some work to do.

Dan!

09-02-2007, 12:00 PM

Here is a great article underscoring the impact of Applachian State's win. Could it be that they got their inspiration from Miss Teen South Carolina of YouTube fame Caitlin Upton's announcement earlier in the week that she would attend their school ;)?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3001214&sportCat=ncf

No matter how you look at it, a Division II school beating a National Championship contender is a HUGE deal.

Dan!

09-02-2007, 12:06 PM

Even though it was just week 1, this week's games were really interesting.

Michigan, Notre Dame and possibly Tennessee (even though Cal is no slouch) are freaking out.

Texas, Viginia Tech and Auburn fans are probably worried about sluggish starts.

What stood out about your teams?

mat1583

09-02-2007, 12:24 PM

Texas, Viginia Tech and Auburn fans are probably worried about sluggish starts.

Since the USC 1st game slaughter a few years back, Auburn fans have always been worried about such sluggish starters. And indeed, this one was a nail biter. I think if we get our act together and play the whole game like we played the last 5 minutes, then we'll be contenders for the SEC championship. If not though, we're going to have a tough time against Florida and LSU...especially with those being away games!

-washboard

jrmitch

09-02-2007, 07:17 PM

.....No matter how you look at it, a Division II school beating a National Championship contender is a HUGE deal.Dan, I agree that the upset was a huge deal, but also want to make an important clarification: Appalachian State is actually classified as a D-1 school, not DII. (They compete in the Division I Football Championship Subdivision, which prior to 2006 was called Division 1-AA and still uses that title on an informal basis).

I don't mean to seem like a semantical nazi, but there are big differences between 1-AA and D-II (the biggest being the number of players on scholarship and size of the athletic department budgets). 1-AA is still an extremely competitive level of ball, having produced NFL stars such as Jerry rice, Walter Payton, and Doug Williams. There are many who thought that the Mountaineer teams of the last two years may have been a stronger team than many BCS elgible teams; I'm actually not totally surprised that they beat Michigan, because this is a very good football program.

clemsontigers23

09-02-2007, 07:45 PM

Will someone tell me what the heck is up with FBS and FCS? 1-A is now the Football Bowl Subdivision and 1-AA is the Football Championship Subdivision...I think I'll stick with 1-A and 1-AA. ;)

jrmitch

09-02-2007, 10:30 PM

Will someone tell me what the heck is up with FBS and FCS? 1-A is now the Football Bowl Subdivision and 1-AA is the Football Championship Subdivision...I think I'll stick with 1-A and 1-AA. ;)*Sigh* Trying to explain the wisdom of the NCAA Board of Governors is akin to trying to explaining Baseballs Infield Fly Rule...........:D

In a nutshell, the thinking by the Board of Governors appears to have been this: College football was the only NCAA sport where the labels 1-A and 1-AA were used, and it was causing confusion with the press (not to mention the fans) because there are many schools that were classified as Division 1 in other sports (such as basketball) but as division 1-AA in football. So they voted last August to implement a name change, and it went into effect last December.

For those unfamiliar w/the new names - which is probably just about everybody - the 'Football Bowl Subdivision' - previously Div. 1-A - is comprised of the 11 conferences currently included in the Bowl Championship series format, along with the major independents. The 'Football Playoff Subdivision' - previously Div. 1-AA - is comprised of 15 of the 19 remaining conferences in Div. 1 football. Their National Championship is decided by a single game elimination, 16 team playoff. There are a number of factors that determine which category a school/conference falls into, with enrollment and home attendance being two of the key ones.

See? I told you it was as complicated as the Infield Fly Rule....:D.

clemsontigers23

09-02-2007, 10:35 PM

*Sigh* Trying to explain the wisdom of the NCAA Board of Governors is akin to trying to explaining Baseballs Infield Fly Rule...........:D

In a nutshell, the thinking by the Board of Governors appears to have been this: College football was the only NCAA sport where the labels 1-A and 1-AA were used, and it was causing confusion with the press (not to mention the fans) because there are many schools that were classified as Division 1 in other sports (such as basketball) but as division 1-AA in football. So they voted last August to implement a name change, and it went into effect last December.

For those unfamiliar w/the new names - which is probably just about everybody - the 'Football Bowl Subdivision' - previously Div. 1-A - is comprised of the 11 conferences currently included in the Bowl Championship series format, along with the major independents. The 'Football Playoff Subdivision' - previously Div. 1-AA - is comprised of 15 of the 19 remaining conferences in Div. 1 football. Their National Championship is decided by a single game elimination, 16 team playoff. There are a number of factors that determine which category a school/conference falls into, with enrollment and home attendance being two of the key ones.

See? I told you it was as complicated as the Infield Fly Rule....:D.

Most people understood 1-A and 1-AA...NO ONE understands this. ;)

mercyGurl

09-02-2007, 11:27 PM

The Tar Heels won;)

That's all I care about...:)

Dan!

09-04-2007, 07:29 PM

. There are many who thought that the Mountaineer teams of the last two years may have been a stronger team than many BCS elgible teams; I'm actually not totally surprised that they beat Michigan, because this is a very good football program.

You are absolutley right. They were the better football team on the field Saturday. One thing is for sure though...I doubt we will see upper-tier teams take so-called gimme games for granted anymore.

gomer Graham

09-07-2007, 08:27 PM

Nebraska is going to destroy this year, so look out USC your days are numbered

truster

09-08-2007, 03:54 AM

IT'S GAME DAY!!!! GAAAAAAAME DAAAAAAY!!!! [gei:m dei:] GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAME DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! !!

Bring on the football, Red Bull, and spirit juice! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

danbos

09-08-2007, 10:51 AM

I don't mean to seem like a semantical nazi, but there are big differences between 1-AA and D-II (the biggest being the number of players on scholarship and size of the athletic department budgets). 1-AA is still an extremely competitive level of ball, having produced NFL stars such as Jerry rice, Walter Payton, and Doug Williams.

I was watching ESPN the other day and they were interviewing a DII coach who's team was going to play App St. this week. He said there's actually a bigger difference between DII and DI-AA, than between DI-A and DI-AA.

clemsontigers23

09-15-2007, 08:43 PM

Michigan beats the pants off Notre Dame 38-0, Florida beats the pants off Tennessee 59-20, Alabama is dominating Arkansas 21-0 in 1st quarter...hmm, I wonder if Mac's watching? ;)

gracenjoy

09-16-2007, 12:15 AM

...well...we (Arkansas) came back and even led for awhile...but we lost by 3...'twas a good game, though...and I'm thinkin' Mac is happier than my husband right now...

truster

09-16-2007, 01:51 AM

Well... From the box score (and what I saw on the board at the BU game,) it looked like Nebraska was doing pretty well in the beginning of the game... too bad they ended up losing.

Psycho Mom

09-16-2007, 01:58 AM

...well...we (Arkansas) came back and even led for awhile...but we lost by 3...'twas a good game, though...and I'm thinkin' Mac is happier than my husband right now...

I think Mr. Powell probably did a big old happy dance tonight! It was a good game.

Jason

09-16-2007, 02:25 AM

ASU 34, San Diego State 13

And we're 3-0.

rossid

09-16-2007, 09:41 AM

Yes, I'm smarting from the Iowa loss to Iowa State.

Someone please remind me what happened to Alabama?

clemsontigers23

09-16-2007, 03:44 PM

Yes, I'm smarting from the Iowa loss to Iowa State.

Someone please remind me what happened to Alabama?

John Parker Wilson threw a beautiful touchdown pass with less than 30 seconds to go...and Alabama won. Arkansas tried the hook and ladder as the very last play, but didn't execute it as well as they could have. Bama 41-38.

Kentucky beat Louisville 40-34...Louisville's defense is horrible.

Les_Is_More

09-16-2007, 04:30 PM

ASU 34, San Diego State 13

And we're 3-0.

Just wait until my Oregon State Beavers beat your Sun Devils next week. ;)

It will be a good game. As long as Sean Canfield doesn't turn the ball over I think the game should be close, and will probably come down to a late 4th quarter score.

GO BEAVS!!!

Jason

09-16-2007, 04:32 PM

Just wait until my Oregon State Beavers beat your Sun Devils next week. ;)

It will be a good game. As long as Sean Canfield doesn't turn the ball over I think the game should be close, and will probably come down to a late 4th quarter score.

GO BEAVS!!!

It will be interesting.

ZippyApplePants

09-16-2007, 04:53 PM

...well...we (Arkansas) came back and even led for awhile...but we lost by 3...'twas a good game, though...and I'm thinkin' Mac is happier than my husband right now...

I'm glad Mac is happy, but it stinks that Arkansas lost.

AgentSteph

09-17-2007, 03:49 PM

It was a good game.
Go Bulldogs!!!

Psycho Mom

09-20-2007, 10:50 PM

Oh, my Steph! You deserve to gloat about Miss. State. They were so much better!!! I hope Auburn can beat NM State this weekend, but I certainly wouldn't put any money on it. But War Eagle anyway!

Les_Is_More

09-22-2007, 09:12 PM

Michigan beat #14 Penn St. 14-9! :eek:

fiddlefool

09-22-2007, 11:06 PM

Today was a sad day in Evanston, IL...
OSU 58 Northwestern 7

But hey...at least we scored ;)

Jason

09-23-2007, 03:05 AM

After sleeping through the first quarter, Arizona St. comes back to beat Oregon St, 44-32. Hopefully, most polls will finally rank ASU.

Les_Is_More

09-23-2007, 11:27 AM

After sleeping through the first quarter, Arizona St. comes back to beat Oregon St, 44-32. Hopefully, most polls will finally rank ASU.

Well, our qb basically handed ASU the game by throwing 5 ints. It wasn't like ASU players made great plays on the ball, Sean Canfield just threw it right to them. :mad:

Had he only threw 2 ints, we would be talking about a different result. ;)

clemsontigers23

09-23-2007, 08:19 PM

My cousin got to play against Appalachian State and they (Wofford) won...he got a few tackles at linebacker. He got the QB Armanti Edwards twice and the receiver Dexter Jackson (guy on SI cover) once in a great wrap-up tackle...even got his name called on the broadcast. That was pretty cool.

TheBus36(Retired)

09-24-2007, 09:17 AM

I would like to take this opportunity to extend a heartfelt THANK YOU!!!!!! to both Anthony Morelli and Austin Scott for their superb efforts on Saturday against Michigan. Austin, thank you for fumble at the Michigan 7 yard line, your third in two games. Good job!!!!! Mr. Morelli, where to start :rolleyes: OH! How could I forget, thank you so much for protecting the ball as if it were a loaf of bread, allowing it to get snatched out of your hand (FUMBLE!!!) at your own 10 yard line. And, if that were not good enough, what an extra special effort you put into that final drive. That was a great 40 yard throw, into double coverage, on 4th and 10. YOU NEEDED 10 YARDS!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

TheBus36(Retired)

09-24-2007, 09:18 AM

Well, our qb basically handed ASU the game by throwing 5 ints. It wasn't like ASU players made great plays on the ball, Sean Canfield just threw it right to them. :mad:

Had he only threw 2 ints, we would be talking about a different result. ;)

I'm not sure I would complain about that. I'd be happy just knowing our qb could actually complete a pass, regardless if it were to the other team. :rolleyes:

TheBus36(Retired)

09-24-2007, 09:19 AM

Is my bitterness showing?

Les_Is_More

09-24-2007, 10:43 AM

Is my bitterness showing?

Bitterness? What bitterness? ;)

clemsontigers23

09-24-2007, 05:16 PM

truster

09-28-2007, 12:33 AM

Baylor + Texas A&M = Saturday's game.

Saturday's game + BUGWB = HECK YES!!!

HECK YES!!! + Thriller = standing ovation. At least, hopefully. :D

Mr.Elwood

09-28-2007, 05:20 AM

Let me see... my impressions of College football so far.

McFadden is a STUD! probably the most impressive and dominant player in college football right now.

Kentucky is still not getting any props. Why is that? I still hear more about Loserville than the Wildcats.. Wildcats stomped them too...

LSU seems to be getting underrated because USC crushed Nebraska on the road. Troy dropped 40 points of the Huskers.. they ain't that good.

USC is the "factory" it used to be. their 3rd line of players start on 90% of Division 1 teams, but they won't be in the BCS game.

Notre Dame is just horrible bad.. Division II bad..

Michigan is funny.. the Big Ten is a joke. How could Penn State not watch game films?? Go 4 wide with your fastest players and Michigan has no idea what to do. Guess the Big Ten will trust in their NCAA nepotism to not match them up against the SEC or PAC10 in the bowl games. Big Ten D doesn't have the horses to match up with either conference at all.

Sad to say, but Auburn is not an elite team.

Sad to say Georgia is not an elite team.

Sad to say.. Florida is an elite team and will probably make it back to the BCS game with Teabow under center.

Once again, the SEC schedule is going to ruin 2 teams chances of a Championship bid (same in the PAC10).

Oklahoma might back-in to a BCS title game because the only test they have is Oct 6 against Texas, but I don't think Texas is a top-shelf team on the same level as Florida, LSU, and USC.

Biggest games coming up?

USC Nov 10th at Cal - both teams will be undefeated or Cal with one loss. This game probably decides the West Coast team for the BCS
LSU Oct 6th Florida - Probably determines the SEC team to the BCS

Must watch???
Central Florida and how many heartbreaks they can deliver during the rest of this season. After they beat West Virginia this weekend, there is no one else on their schedule to stop them from being undefeated. Wonder how the BCS will deal with that?

TheBus36(Retired)

09-28-2007, 07:41 AM

Michigan is funny.. the Big Ten is a joke. How could Penn State not watch game films?? Go 4 wide with your fastest players and Michigan has no idea what to do. Guess the Big Ten will trust in their NCAA nepotism to not match them up against the SEC or PAC10 in the bowl games. Big Ten D doesn't have the horses to match up with either conference at all.

You know what? One would assume that to be the case, wouldn't they? :rolleyes: At least if you are going to continually run that stupid draw play, line four up and sprint them down the field!!!!!!! But then again, you actually have to have some one that can get the ball to the receivers in order to be effective, and guess what? Morelli ain the guy.

3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out. Illinois is going to kick the crap out of us. Their running game will have us wornn out midway through the third quarter becuase we won't make any first downs. I can assure Zook spent plenty of time watching, and rewatching the Michigan film.

TheBus36(Retired)

09-28-2007, 07:46 AM

Straight from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Penn State football Q&A with Ron Musselman
Friday, September 28, 2007
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Click here to submit your question

Q: How could PSU not put together a spread package using Daryll Clark at QB after seeing how other teams had killed Michigan with such a package? UGH!

Dave Ketchda, Auburn, Ala.

MUSSELMAN: They wouldn't have even needed Clark at QB to pull it off - they could have kept Morelli in the game. Penn State had been using five-wide receiver sets earlier in the season to spread the field, but opted away from that strategy against the Wolverines. The Penn State coaching staff seems to freeze up every time they see the Maize and Blue uniforms of Michigan

TheBus36(Retired)

09-29-2007, 08:04 PM

Well, that's two games in a row we can personally thank Mr. Morelli for the loss. :rolleyes: Two INT's, one at the goal line, one at the ILLINOIS 20, and oh yeah, let's not forget about the FUMBLE on our last drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr.Elwood

09-29-2007, 08:47 PM

WOOHOO!!!!

TAKE THAT BCS!!!! what a weekend!!! :eek: :P

C'mon Huskies!!!! :D

truster

09-29-2007, 10:13 PM

Colorodo beat OU.
K-State beat Texas.

If Baylor had beat A&M, it would have been the trifecta of Big XII upsets. Alas, my Bears fall short again.

(Our band kicked butt, though, if I do say so myself. We played Thriller and danced on the field. :D )

rossid

09-29-2007, 11:36 PM

Huskies beat the Trojans.

Huskies beat the Trojans.

Huskies beat the Trojans.

Hey I can dream...

AtlBraves

09-29-2007, 11:58 PM

ROLL TRIBE!!! Sorry Mac But my 'Noles took this one. I have to say as a Dolphins fan I am really enjoying watching Nick "Satan" Saban getting beat. Especially nice considering my favorite team was the one doing the beating.

For those of you that dont live in South Florida. Saban is Public Enemy #1 down here. He is despised with a passion. Every week the team that plays 'Bama has more fans than they have ever had as the entire Miami Dolphins nation is cheering against 'Bama and Saban.

Psycho Mom

09-30-2007, 12:44 AM

AUBURN BEAT FLORIDA!

(Who says there are no miracles? Yes!)

Psycho Mom

09-30-2007, 12:46 AM

Mr.Elwood

09-30-2007, 12:53 AM

I think probably the state of Louisiana is right behind you.

Other than the Huskies and USC, could this weekend have been any more chaotic for the BCS???

Gotta love Cal huh?? guess that showdown coming up with USC is for real!

Jason

09-30-2007, 02:38 AM

Arizona St. 41, Stanford 3

ASU 5-0.

ZippyApplePants

09-30-2007, 03:13 PM

Colorodo beat OU.

:D Way to go Buffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

clemsontigers23

09-30-2007, 05:46 PM

I knew Cullen Harper was overrated.:rolleyes:

Jason

10-01-2007, 01:36 AM

Woohoo! ASU is #18!

Buttabean

10-01-2007, 11:18 AM

I'm imagining Mack Brown throwing stuff around in the locker room after that disaster against K-State. For once, Texas is lower than Missouri. I like it. :cool:

Jason

10-06-2007, 08:54 PM

ASU 23, WSU 20

ASU is now 6-0.

rossid

10-06-2007, 08:57 PM

Penn State 27-7 over Iowa

Iowa now 0-3 in the Big Ten and have lost their last 8 conference games.

:(

:(

Les_Is_More

10-06-2007, 09:15 PM

Oregon State got back on track by beating Arizona 31-16. :D

Now they play #3 Cal in Strawberry canyon. Even though our defense has been dominating all season long, this game isn't looking good for the Beavers. :confused:

clemsontigers23

10-06-2007, 09:27 PM

Clemson's getting whooped. I wish they'd fire Tommy Bowden and change quarterbacks.

Jason

10-06-2007, 10:04 PM

Oregon State got back on track by beating Arizona 31-16. :D

U of A isn't hard to beat this year. :P

rossid

10-07-2007, 12:13 AM

USC LOSES!

USC LOSES!

USC LOSES!

:eek:

:eek:

:eek:

Jason

10-07-2007, 12:26 AM

USC LOSES!

USC LOSES!

USC LOSES!

:eek:

:eek:

:eek:

Yay!

Edited to add: Cool, it was Stanford who beat USC. Cool because ASU slaughtered Staford.

Fight, Devils Down The Field
Fight With Your Might and Don't
Ever Yield
Long May Our Colors Outshine All
Others
Echo From The Buttes, Give 'Em
Hell Devils!
Cheer, Cheer For A-S-U
Fight For The Old Maroon
For it's Hail, Hail, The Gang's All
Here
And It's Onward to Victory!

rossid

10-07-2007, 02:20 AM

The word is "Fight! Fight! Fight! for IOWA,
Let every loyal Iowan sing;
The word is "Fight! Fight! Fight! for IOWA,"
Until the walls and rafters ring (Go Hawks!)
Come on and cheer, cheer, cheer, for IOWA
Come on and cheer until you hear the final gun.
The word is "Fight! Fight! Fight! for IOWA,"
Until the game is won.

Maybe next week against Illinois. Hey I can dream can't I?

Les_Is_More

10-07-2007, 02:46 AM

U of A isn't hard to beat this year. :P

With our qb, we are happy to win any game we can.

Now don't forget Jason that OSU GAVE ASU the game. Our defence was dominating that game, but our qb threw 5 ints and continuously put our D in a bad spot. ASU escaped with their lives. :D

Don't worry Jason, USC will beat ASU. :P

clemsontigers23

10-07-2007, 02:13 PM

USC LOSES!

USC LOSES!

USC LOSES!

:eek:

:eek:

:eek:

USC is one of the teams I follow...hated to see them and Clemson lose on the same day. :(

rossid

10-13-2007, 06:33 PM

Oh, yes, Iowa beats Illinois 10- 6.

Jason, some kook, no not Ron Zook :P, has an ASU license plate holder here in town. :eek:

Mr.Elwood

10-13-2007, 10:11 PM

Although I hated to see LSU lose...

BCS in shambles is always such fun!!!!!
:P

danbos

10-13-2007, 10:27 PM

Although I hated to see LSU lose...

BCS in shambles is always such fun!!!!!
:P

And OSU is sticking with Cal too. :D :P

Mr.Elwood

10-13-2007, 11:27 PM

And OSU is sticking with Cal too. :D :P

Yeah.. OSU looks like they are gonna hold on..

So what..

Ohio #1
BC #2
SF #3
in the polls?
wonder what the BCS computer will spit out??

danbos

10-14-2007, 01:06 AM

If this keeps up, Michigan might be #1 yet. :P ;)

Les_Is_More

10-14-2007, 03:12 AM

OSU WINS!!! What a great day to be a Beaver! :D
We upset #3 USC last year to spark a long winning streak, maybe this upset will spark another. The biggest stat in the game was Sean Canfield's ZERO ints.

rossid

10-14-2007, 06:16 PM

Can I relish in USC being out of it at 14? LSU did come from 12th a couple years ago though.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=BCS

clemsontigers23

10-14-2007, 07:09 PM

We need a playoff.

truster

10-20-2007, 10:46 PM

Baylor was only behind Texas 17-10 at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Alas, we fell further behind as the quarter dragged on.....

clemsontigers23

10-21-2007, 03:07 PM

Clemson put up 70 on Central Michigan yesterday...great day to be a Tiger. :D

danbos

10-21-2007, 04:38 PM

Clemson put up 70 on Central Michigan yesterday...great day to be a Tiger. :D

Being a Michigander, I'd have to say that's not that great of an accomplishment. ;)

clemsontigers23

10-21-2007, 06:02 PM

Being a Michigander, I'd have to say that's not that great of an accomplishment. ;)

It is when you've been embarassed two weeks in a row. ;)

By the way, great win for Big Blue over Illinois. Rough start, but they pulled it off.

danbos

10-21-2007, 08:54 PM

It is when you've been embarassed two weeks in a row. ;)

By the way, great win for Big Blue over Illinois. Rough start, but they pulled it off.

True.

Yeah, I was getting worried there at the beginning. It also gave me hope for next year, I was worried if they'd be able to do anything without Hart, because I hadn't seen anything good from the backups.

Jason

10-21-2007, 10:03 PM

Arizona St. had a bye week but is now #7 in most polls and #4 in the BCS.

Anybody for an Arizona St/Ohio St Rose Bowl?

danbos

10-21-2007, 11:19 PM

Arizona St. had a bye week but is now #7 in most polls and #4 in the BCS.

Anybody for an Arizona St/Ohio St Rose Bowl?

Nope, I don't want to see Ohio St. there, and I don't think it will happen.

Arizona St./Michigan? :D I can dream can't I? They are undefeated in the Big 10...

Sam!

10-22-2007, 01:57 PM

What a strange division the SEC East is this year.

Psycho Mom

10-22-2007, 02:13 PM

LSU is back up to number 3 in the AP and BCS standings. Just got to hope VA Tech can knock off BC Thursday night. (I think it is Thursday night.)

Les_Is_More

10-28-2007, 01:16 AM

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the Oregon Ducks look like the real deal. They beat USC today 24-17.

Now, I thought this USC team was supposedly the best EVER. ;)
(I never believed it for a second. :D )

Jason

10-28-2007, 03:40 AM

And ASU beats Cal to go 8-0.

rossid

10-28-2007, 08:56 PM

Iowa in double overtime over Michigan St. Chance at a bowl game if they win two of three:

Northwestern
Minnesota
Western Michigan

:D

UNI unbelievably comes back and wins 14-13 over Youngstown State. Will they remain #1 in Division I-AA (FCS)? :cool:

Jason

10-28-2007, 09:44 PM

The top 5 in the BCS standings are the same so ASU is still #4.

Tim

10-29-2007, 04:09 PM

Hey Jason, I was at the ASU/Cal game Saturday night and had a ball. It was a fun atmosphere and fairly exciting to be there. I noticed Lee Corso in his top 5 has Oregon #1 and Ohio State #2. Personally, I think Oregon is really good and should have beaten Cal but turnovers did them in during the 4th Quarter. Should be the game of the week this week as ASU heads to Oregon. Most folks, if they were to admit it, believed Cal would beat ASU.

For ASU to beat Oregon, they must have a better first half. They can not continue to rely on strong finishes to pull out victory. Oregon's qb is terrific and ASU must find a way to keep him contained.

LLcoolChance

10-30-2007, 11:52 PM

I wish Boston College had a tougher Schedule

Does anyone have an opinion on them

Oh yeah does anyone think Georiga can win out
And Can Oregon make it all the wway
Oklahoma? Sleepers?

clemsontigers23

10-31-2007, 06:21 PM

BC has a tough schedule. It's called coming to Death Valley and playing the Clemson Tigers! :cool:

Psycho Mom

11-03-2007, 11:14 PM

YEAH BABY!!!!

That is all I am saying, so as not to upset anyone who might see this. I want a great new album......so we do not want to upset the lead singer!

Mr.Elwood

11-04-2007, 12:00 AM

YEAH BABY!!!!

That is all I am saying, so as not to upset anyone who might see this. I want a great new album......so we do not want to upset the lead singer!

Hahahahaha.. nice Bari… nice.. ;)

I figured you were gonna offer a special type of pie..:eek:

:P :D

Jason

11-04-2007, 03:54 AM

Ugh. ASU lost.

clemsontigers23

11-04-2007, 07:38 PM

Ugh. ASU lost.

Are you surprised? ;)

Jason

11-04-2007, 07:50 PM

Are you surprised? ;)

Yes.

clemsontigers23

11-04-2007, 08:33 PM

Yes.

Really? It was at Oregon and they were going against a Heisman candidate quarterback. I wouldn't feel too bad about it. ;)

Les_Is_More

11-04-2007, 10:32 PM

I never believed ASU had a shot at Oregon. ASU's defense isn't good enough to stop a powerful offense like Oregon's. I'm an Oregon State fan, so I was rooting for ASU. Oh well, I guess my Beavers will have to upset the Duck's National Championship bid on Dec 1 in the Civil War. :D

JanetRN

11-04-2007, 10:39 PM

I wish Boston College had a tougher Schedule

Does anyone have an opinion on them

Oh yeah does anyone think Georiga can win out
And Can Oregon make it all the wway
Oklahoma? Sleepers?

I think FSU was a tough enough schedule for them:D

Buttabean

11-04-2007, 10:58 PM

YAY!!! My team is #5!!!!! :cool: This is the highest we've been in a long time. :D

MIZZOU-RAH!!

truster

11-05-2007, 02:43 AM

Once again, the Golden Wave Band is the [only] highlight of the Baylor game.

Pathetic.

Buttabean

11-05-2007, 12:11 PM

Once again, the Golden Wave Band is the [only] highlight of the Baylor game.

Pathetic.

hey man, they put up a good fight at the Baylor-UT game. We were there, and I was impressed at the defense they had. They played a better game than I expected. :)

And the real bear was really freakin' cool. :cool:

Its hard to get a good team at a private school that doesn't drop its educational standards for the sake of getting athletes. I support that fact.

truster

11-06-2007, 01:03 AM

hey man, they put up a good fight at the Baylor-UT game. We were there, and I was impressed at the defense they had. They played a better game than I expected. :)

And the real bear was really freakin' cool. :cool:

Its hard to get a good team at a private school that doesn't drop its educational standards for the sake of getting athletes. I support that fact.

The UT game was by far the best that I've seen BU play this year. Unfortunately, they did nowhere near as good against Tech.

Now to see who we end up getting as a coach next year... it's more or less guaranteed that GuyMo is not coming back.

rossid

11-06-2007, 02:56 AM

So one win makes the Hawkeyes bowl eligible and two wins guarantees a bowl game. Minnesota and Western Michigan - well they did lose to Iowa State - so don't make travel plans yet.

Jason

11-10-2007, 08:25 PM

ASU beats UCLA, 24-20
Illinois beats Ohio St. 28-21

So a good day so far.

AgentSteph

11-10-2007, 09:13 PM

2 years in a row......

danbos

11-10-2007, 09:55 PM

:mad: :mad: :( :( Michigan lost...
At least Ohio State lost too, so there's still hope of winning the Big 10. And even if they didn't have a chance at winning the Big 10, it would still be a good season if they beat Ohio State. :P ;)

TN3Dmom

11-11-2007, 01:29 AM

2 years in a row......

That's awesome. Go Dawgs (my alma mater). I'm hoping they get the Liberty Bowl invite. Party at my house if so...

Jason

11-11-2007, 01:57 AM

And Maryland upset Boston College, 42-35.

rossid

11-11-2007, 02:16 AM

Insight.com? The valley of the sun - would that be you Jason?

Jason

11-11-2007, 02:28 AM

Insight.com? The valley of the sun - would that be you Jason?

Yes. The Insight Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl are both in metro Phoenix (the valley of the sun).

fiddlefool

11-11-2007, 03:07 AM

Illinois beating OSU was beautiful. But it also sucks for us at NU...we play Illinois next week...at Illinois. Our last and bowl determining game...

*BITES NAILS*

Go 'Cats!

clemsontigers23

11-11-2007, 03:54 PM

Clemson vs. BC for ACC Atlantic Division Title next week. I'm going. :D

truster

11-11-2007, 09:20 PM

GOODBYE, GuyMo!

MIKE SINGLETARY FOR HEAD COACH!!!!

Les_Is_More

11-16-2007, 02:11 AM

OREGON LOSES!!! :D :D

#2 in the nation is a dangerous position!

Jason

11-16-2007, 02:20 AM

OREGON LOSES!!! :D :D

#2 in the nation is a dangerous position!

Yes, #2 Oregon lost to unranked Arizona, 24-34. This gives the Pac-10 top spot solely to Arizona State.

rossid

11-16-2007, 02:33 AM

Yes, #2 Oregon lost to unranked Arizona, 24-34. This gives the Pac-10 top spot solely to Arizona State.

Right, they've done nothing to earn it! :P

Hi, my name is Kansas, and I'm dreaming of beating Mizzou and OU to get to the BCS championship game. :D

Les_Is_More

11-16-2007, 02:34 AM

Yes, #2 Oregon lost to unranked Arizona, 24-34. This gives the Pac-10 top spot solely to Arizona State.

However, ASU still has to play USC, who is playing very well right now. If USC does beat ASU, there will be a three way tie for the top spot in the Pac-10 between USC, ASU, and Oregon.

Jason

11-16-2007, 02:44 AM

However, ASU still has to play USC, who is playing very well right now. If USC does beat ASU, there will be a three way tie for the top spot in the Pac-10 between USC, ASU, and Oregon.

And ASU still has to play the team that just beat Oregon.

Mr.Elwood

11-16-2007, 04:20 AM

Kansas loses Mizzu. ASU loses to USC

LSU loses to Georgia...

hhmm..... that leaves???

WV against OU?!?!?!

BCS major mess!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!:P

Buttabean

11-17-2007, 03:03 AM

Kansas loses Mizzu. ASU loses to USC

LSU loses to Georgia...

hhmm..... that leaves???

WV against OU?!?!?!

BCS major mess!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!:P

No way kid. I bet Mizzou will beat KU, and then we'll learn from our mistakes in the first Mizzou-OU match up earlier this season and win Big 12 Championship. :cool:

Of course, the ONE year that Mizzou is in the top 10, Kansas has to pretend they're good at football and steal our thunder. :rolleyes: But just wait till 11/24 in KC, baby. :cool:

danbos

11-17-2007, 04:58 PM

I'm very disappointed in the coaching of Michigan today. Why wait til 3 minutes left to go for it on 4th down? Why not just give Ryan Mallett a chance? Sure, he's a freshman, but Henne was playing terrible...the announcers were saying that Michigan needed Henne's leadership...umm, I'm pretty sure completions are going to help you more than leadership.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love Lloyd Carr, I'm not sure I want to see him leave, but I think today was a terribly coached game.

rossid

11-17-2007, 06:46 PM

No way kid. I bet Mizzou will beat KU, and then we'll learn from our mistakes in the first Mizzou-OU match up earlier this season and win Big 12 Championship. :cool:

Of course, the ONE year that Mizzou is in the top 10, Kansas has to pretend they're good at football and steal our thunder. :rolleyes: But just wait till 11/24 in KC, baby. :cool:

70% of the fans in Arrowhead will be for KU according to the local sports dudes.

Buttabean

11-18-2007, 03:22 PM

70% of the fans in Arrowhead will be for KU according to the local sports dudes.

Both student sections are sold out. So, that's all I care about. :D Student fans will set the stage for us.

Thank goodness OU lost to Tech last night, that's all I gotta say. ;)

clemsontigers23

11-18-2007, 04:21 PM

BC locks up the Atlantic Division...I was at the Clemson-BC game...I've never seen such a horrible 2 minute drill in my life. Fire Tommy Bowden!

Mr.Elwood

11-23-2007, 02:53 AM

Well.. the PAC10 is playing themselves out of the BCS... again... :rolleyes:

truster

11-23-2007, 03:34 AM

Singletary is not interested in the Baylor job because, in short, Baylor doesn't want to commit to winning.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3123452

Again along the coach lines... I can't find it officially anywhere, but word is Francionie (sp?) is being fired from A&M.

rossid

11-23-2007, 04:05 AM

He is probably on the way out.

Buttabean

11-23-2007, 12:29 PM

danbos

11-23-2007, 01:19 PM

A lot of people are going to be moving around. We've got Houston Nut probably going to be leaving Arkansas, Michigan's coach is leaving which mean's LSU's coach will probably go to Michigan, and A&M's coach is most likely leaving. Sorry, I'm awful with names, but Houston Nut is hard to forget. ;)

Hopefully Les Miles will go to Michigan. Most people think he will, but if he doesn't, I'm going to be upset that Lloyd Carr retired. In other words, I'd be happy seeing Les Miles at Michigan, but don't see anyone else out there that could do a better job than Lloyd Carr.

Why do I have so much trouble figuring out how to spell Lloyd? :P

rossid

11-23-2007, 03:16 PM

So we were 6-6 but as long as Kirk Ferentz, sounds like parents, stays at Iowa that is cool. Michigan can take Miles.

Mr.Elwood

11-23-2007, 05:18 PM

I hate to do this to a friend....but...gotta go with it while I can..:P

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie! Razorbacks!”

truster

11-23-2007, 09:10 PM

I hate to do this to a friend....but...gotta go with it while I can..:P

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie! Razorbacks!”

Agreed.

I am quite sad, though, that A&M "btho" Texas.

TN3Dmom

11-23-2007, 09:19 PM

Well, this doesn't happen very often, so I'll gloat a little bit. MS State finished with a winning season and beat Ole Miss. Woo Hoo. I have to admit, I thought it would turn out the other way, though. Great comeback for the bulldogs. The highlight of the game, however, was an MSU fan holding a sign which said "I am not an Ole Miss football player, but I did steal something from Holiday Inn Express last night". :D :D :D

ZippyApplePants

11-23-2007, 11:06 PM

I hate to do this to a friend....but...gotta go with it while I can..:P

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie! Razorbacks!”

Amen! I'm one happy Arkansas native today! :D

89099

Buttabean

11-24-2007, 01:58 AM

YAY!!! Arkansas is my adopted SEC team. :cool: I even wear a Razorback shirt!! I guess Houston Nutt may be saved. I certainly hope so; "The Houston Nutt Show" is quite catchy. ;)

And of course, this helps Mizzou out tons. I'm obviously begging for a W tomorrow. *sweats bullets*

Buttabean

11-24-2007, 02:00 AM

I hate to do this to a friend....but...gotta go with it while I can..:P

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie!

“Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie! Razorbacks!”

And its SO much fun to hear the crowd do this at the games!! Josh and I went to an early game (I think it was the 1st of the season; Arkansas v. Troy St.) and we just got into it. Lots of fun. :D

truster

11-24-2007, 02:08 AM

rossid

11-24-2007, 01:01 PM

Would you bet on them to win their next three games? Are they that good? Or just good enough in a mediocre year?

Buttabean

11-24-2007, 01:14 PM

KANSAS FOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!

:)

You live in Texas!! Why do you like kU? :eek: You have plenty of Big 12 teams to choose from. :P

rossid

11-24-2007, 01:19 PM

Jason, did I miss your comment on USC/ASU?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3123938&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

I wanted you to win this one.

Jason

11-24-2007, 06:39 PM

Jason, did I miss your comment on USC/ASU?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3123938&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

I wanted you to win this one.

I'd like to forget that game.

rossid

11-24-2007, 08:32 PM

*tries to use super powers to erase both posts - realizes he has no super powers*

Les_Is_More

11-24-2007, 09:24 PM

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....... I'm certainly enjoying the Oregon Duck's loss today to UCLA 16-0. The Ducks find a way to choke every single year, and I enjoy every second of it. GO BEAVERS!

Jason

11-24-2007, 09:28 PM

truster

11-24-2007, 09:34 PM

Would you bet on them to win their next three games? Are they that good? Or just good enough in a mediocre year?

Well... I think thay can beat Mizzou. OU shouldn't be a problem... I think they've already beat them once. WVU/ Ohio State? Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully, we'll see. :)

truster

11-24-2007, 09:36 PM

You live in Texas!! Why do you like kU? :eek: You have plenty of Big 12 teams to choose from. :P

Well... I can't cheer for Baylor at this time of year... we're done. I absolutely despise A&M. Texas isn't gonna get there (but they're the ones that I cheer for after Baylor's done). I don't care for Tech. And I can't stand OU. And Kansas is doing well, so why not cheer for them? :)

rossid

11-25-2007, 12:06 AM

Well... I think thay can beat Mizzou. OU shouldn't be a problem... I think they've already beat them once. WVU/ Ohio State? Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully, we'll see. :)Mizzou/OSU?

truster

11-25-2007, 01:12 AM

Mizzou/OSU?

Well...... If Mizzou can beat Oklahoma.... either that, or Mizzou/WVU.

Les_Is_More

11-25-2007, 01:20 AM

I sure hope that OSU doesn't get into the National Championship game. Since they have completed their schedule, they would have 6 weeks off before playing in the National Championship. We all know what happened last year with the same scenario. Mizzou vs. WVU would be a much better match-up.

rossid

11-25-2007, 02:30 AM

Didn't they have a lot of time off when they won it all?

Oh and where are the Tide and Tiger fans? Jayhawks and Tigers scored more. Did not watch either game so I'm not sure which was better.

truster

11-25-2007, 02:42 AM

Didn't they have a lot of time off when they won it all?

Oh and where are the Tide and Tiger fans? Jayhawks and Tigers scored more. Did not watch either game so I'm not sure which was better.

The first half of KU/Mizzou was pathetic on the Kansas side. They didn't look like an undefeated team at all. They lit up in the second half, but the defense couldn't keep Mizzou off the scoreboard enough for the offense to catch up.

I dunno about the Tide/Tiger game.

mat1583

11-25-2007, 03:50 AM

I dunno about the Tide/Tiger game.

WAREAGLE!!!

6-0 and $4 million later :)

-washboard

Buttabean

11-25-2007, 02:06 PM

Well... I think thay can beat Mizzou. OU shouldn't be a problem... I think they've already beat them once. WVU/ Ohio State? Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully, we'll see. :)

kU didn't play OU. They played Oklahoma St. Mizzou is the hardest team they played against all year, and they lost. :D kU had the wussiest schedule in the Big 12, so of course they played that well before they met up with us.

I'm thinking Mizzou is going to do well this Saturday. We had the lead in Norman and self-destructed. We're a more mature team now than we were then and the communication issues have been resolved. And since we're playing in San An, OU won't have the home field advantage. I'll be cheering for my Tigers in San Antonio next weekend--we got tickets last night!!!

And it'll be West Virginia. I don't think Ohio State deserves it.

rossid

11-25-2007, 05:44 PM

He was saying that Kansas should not have a problem beating OU.

Article on standings:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3127118
The link to AP and USA Today is not working.

AP:
1. Missouri (45) 11-1
2. West Virginia (20) 10-1
3. Ohio State 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. LSU 10-2
6. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. Kansas 11-1
8. USC 9-2 1212 11
9. Oklahoma 10-2
10. Florida 9-3

USA Today:
1. West Virginia (37) 10-1
2. Missouri (17) 11-1
3. Ohio State (6) 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. Kansas 11-1 (Yes there is a tie for fifth.)
5. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. LSU 10-2
8. Oklahoma 10-2
9. USC 9-2
10. Hawaii 11-0

BCS rankings will be out later today. This is last week:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=4

1 Ohio State
2 LSU
3 Oregon
4 Kansas
5 Oklahoma
6 Missouri
7 West Virginia
8 Boston College
9 Arizona State
10 Georgia

Jason

11-25-2007, 07:01 PM

Jason

11-25-2007, 07:05 PM

According to The Arizona Republic:

The Sun Devils (9-2) remain in the running for a BCS berth in the Rose Bowl should they beat Arizona and UCLA upset USC on Saturday. Otherwise their best chance for a BCS berth is to win and have Missouri beat Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game. Then ASU and Kansas likely would meet in the Fiesta Bowl, Jan. 2 in Glendale.

If Oklahoma wins the Big 12 title, the Fiesta could pair the Sooners and Kansas, who have not met this season. ASU at 10-2 then likely would play against Texas in the Holiday Bowl, Dec. 27 in San Diego.

If ASU loses to Arizona, the Sun Devils still could play in the Holiday Bowl if Oregon loses to Oregon State on Saturday. The final BCS standings and BCS bowl pairings will be announced Dec. 2.

ASU's worst-case bowl scenario is the Sun Bowl, Dec. 31 in El Paso.

And a joke:
What's the difference between the Arizona Wildcats and Cheerios?

Cheerios belong in a bowl.

rossid

11-25-2007, 07:33 PM

Will Kirk Ferentz leave Iowa for Michigan or not?

http://iowa.scout.com/2/705220.html

Buttabean

11-25-2007, 11:44 PM

He was saying that Kansas should not have a problem beating OU.

I know that. :) But he also said that OU played kU earlier this season, which they didn't. :)

Buttabean

11-27-2007, 10:45 AM

OK, so who do you think is going to win Big 12? Will Hawaii get a BCS bowl? Do they deserve one? What about the threat of Ohio St. backing into a championship?

Discuss, loves!!

Jake

11-27-2007, 04:19 PM

Hawaii does deserve a BCS bid. I'm all for strength of schedule playing a SMALL role in determining this, but you can't punish a school for playing the schedule that they're given. Put them in a BCS game and then maybe next year you can give them a tougher schedule.

As for the National Championship game, I think Mizzou and WVU (I've been a Floirda fan first and a WVU fan second for as long as I can remember, so I'm happy), are both in a "win and you're in" scenario.

rossid

11-27-2007, 05:11 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciecho wski_gene&id=3128299&sportCat=ncf

The BCS works
Heisman Trophy voters know what they're doing
Nebraska is an elite coaching job

clemsontigers23

11-27-2007, 06:44 PM

They're saying Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl for Clemson against Auburn, on CBSSportsline.com.

On ESPN.com, Mark Schlabach has Clemson playing Texas in the Gator Bowl, while Ivan Maisel also has Clemson in the Peach Bowl against Auburn.

Here are the Bowl Projections:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bowlprojection s13

Ivan Maisel also has Georgia playing USC in the Rose Bowl...talk about intriguing match-up, the two hottest teams in the country arguably. ;)

Buttabean

11-27-2007, 08:19 PM

I would tend to agree with all three of you. :) And of course I think Mizzou can beat OU. Although, Chase Daniel is on the cover of SI this week. I'm hoping that doesn't jinx us. :eek:

In other news, Houston Nutt is now the coach at Ole Miss. Quick work, wouldn't you say? As well as bringing in Mike Sherman into Aggieland. His most recent gig is assistant head coach of the Texans, but he has done time in College Station. Any news about whether Nebraska has a job yet?

Jason

11-27-2007, 08:24 PM

Go Mizzou!

Go UCLA!

Go ASU!

truster

11-27-2007, 11:59 PM

I know that. :) But he also said that OU played kU earlier this season, which they didn't. :)

Yeah, I thought that they had... alas, I was wrong. :)

JanetRN

11-28-2007, 12:36 AM

Go Mizzou!

Go UCLA!

Go ASU!

Go Oklahoma!

Go Pittsburgh!!

Jason

11-28-2007, 12:51 AM

Go Oklahoma!

It looks like Oklahoma may play ASU in the Fiesta Bowl unless UCLA beats USC. If UCLA wins, ASU may be in the Rose Bowl instead.

JanetRN

11-28-2007, 12:59 AM

It looks like Oklahoma may play ASU in the Fiesta Bowl unless UCLA beats USC. If UCLA wins, ASU may be in the Rose Bowl instead.

I'm looking at this article http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/news/story?page=bcs077

PS incase you can't read the end of the article... it says UGA vs Ohio for National champs!! ;)

Buttabean

11-28-2007, 09:57 AM

wow, that's a random pick. West Virginia is a completely better team than Georgia. And I hate the idea of a team backing into the Nat'l Championship. Its so uncelebratory. A la Florida 2006. I don't think Ohio State or Georgia are the best teams in the country. I don't think a 10-2 team belongs there. That's why LSU isn't getting a spot.

clemsontigers23

11-28-2007, 07:06 PM

LSU better not get it. They are the most overrated team in the country.

Georgia is red-hot right now. They could beat any team in the country. Georgia is #4 in the BCS so if both teams lose (highly unlikely) then they deserve it.

On a side note, it's all the more reason why we need a playoff. ;)

By the way, since it's Insider, can you put the story on here so we can read it?

rossid

11-28-2007, 11:47 PM

We will get the two best BCS teams or can continue to discuss who the two best teams are in the country and how they will hopefully end up in the championship.

rossid

11-29-2007, 12:06 AM

Here are the updated BCS standings:

1. Missouri 11-1
2. West Virginia 10-1
3. Ohio State 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. Kansas 11-1
6. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. LSU 10-2
8. USC 9-2
9. Oklahoma 10-2
10. Florida 9-3
11. Boston College 10-2
12. Hawaii 11-0
13. Arizona State 9-2
14. Tennessee 9-3
15. Illinois 9-3
16. Clemson 9-3
17. Oregon 8-3
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. BYU 9-2
20. Texas 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Virginia 9-3
23. Cincinnati 9-3
24. Auburn 8-4
25. Boise State 10-2

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

"Unless, of course, both Missouri and West Virginia lose, USC hops over idle Georgia in the BCS standings and Ohio State and the Trojans then get to meet Jan. 7 in the Big Easy."

How does #8 USC make it to number two by simply beating UCLA and having number one and two lose?

In this scenario:

3. Ohio State 11-1 - becomes number 1
4. Georgia 10-2 - season over - do they drop for not being in a conference championship?
5. Kansas 11-1 - season over - do they drop?
6. Virginia Tech 10-2 - must lose at BC
7. LSU 10-2 - must lose SEC championship to TN

So at best doesn't that make USC number six?

Should it read: "Missouri, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, LSU lose, and USC hops over idle GA and Kansas."?

There must be something in the BCS equation that I'm not aware of, okay there is a lot of stuff in the BCS equation that I'm not aware of, but who can enlighten me?

Jake

11-29-2007, 01:02 AM

I think the Pete Carrol Bias may come into the picture on USC jumping that far...fortunately it won't happen, as WVU is not going to fall to Pitt.

truster

11-29-2007, 02:11 AM

Well, Baylor has named a new head coach. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3131738

He's the former U of Houston coach.

Besides what the article says, does anyone know anything about him?

Mr.Elwood

11-29-2007, 02:51 AM

Typical East Coast bias and Big Ten love-fest to me...

There is NO WAY Ohio State should even be in the running. They beat NO ONE and lost to an also-ran AT HOME. Played less games and are now idle. They have not done anything to prove they are not the team that lost to a sort-of good Illinois team at home. Beating Michigan was a given since they now dominate that match up. They truly have done nothing to prove they are worthy of their current ranking other than not lose to a quality team.... which of course they won't play..

I never understood how a team that barely loses to the #1 team (that was already ranked directly above them) drops so far in the polls. Missouri should have beaten Kansas and did. Kansas should have made it close to prove they were worthy of their ranking and did.. How do they suddenly drop below Ohio State who still has done NOTHING..

I love Dan Wetzel's column on the playoff... sounds just about right to me..

The Wetzel Plan (Yahoo Sports) (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AlLH5Pn6Dngk3HF n5fkbI88cvrYF?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Les_Is_More

11-29-2007, 02:56 AM

How does #8 USC make it to number two by simply beating UCLA and having number one and two lose?

It is highly unlikely that USC will make it into the championship. However, they are HOT right now and can probably beat anyone in the nation at this time. It is to bad they lost earlier in the season, because I would like to see them in the Championship. If Booty didn't get hurt in the Stanford game, they might still be undefeated. :mad:

Buttabean

11-29-2007, 04:13 PM

rossid

11-29-2007, 10:46 PM

I never understood how a team that barely loses to the #1 team (that was already ranked directly above them) drops so far in the polls. Missouri should have beaten Kansas and did. Kansas should have made it close to prove they were worthy of their ranking and did.. How do they suddenly drop below Ohio State who still has done NOTHING..

I love Dan Wetzel's column on the playoff... sounds just about right to me..

The Wetzel Plan (Yahoo Sports) (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AlLH5Pn6Dngk3HF n5fkbI88cvrYF?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Kansas did score three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Looks like Reesing single-handedly made it SEEM like it was a close game after Mizzou dominated for three quarters.

Wetzel does have a nice bracket set up. I like the possible USC and GA matchup in the semis.

Les_Is_More

11-30-2007, 12:53 AM

everyone keeps saying that all these teams could beat anyone else right now. Well, they had their chance to prove they could beat anyone and lost. USC's loss to Stanford seals the deal on the "USC sucks" category to me.

The key word is RIGHT NOW. Of course they had their chance. We are just fans expressing our frustration/disapointment. Nothin' wrong with that.

I'm having a difficult time understanding how USC "sucks?" They have been the most dominant team in NCAA football the past 5 years. Does LSU "suck" for losing two games? How about Georgia? They lost twice as well. What about Oklahoma(10-2)? I never realized only losing two games in an entire season was so terrible. Hmmm...I guess you learn something new every day. ;)

Buttabean

11-30-2007, 01:20 AM

The key word is RIGHT NOW. Of course they had their chance. We are just fans expressing our frustration/disapointment. Nothin' wrong with that.

I'm having a difficult time understanding how USC "sucks?" They have been the most dominant team in NCAA football the past 5 years. Does LSU "suck" for losing two games? How about Georgia? They lost twice as well. What about Oklahoma(10-2)? I never realized only losing two games in an entire season was so terrible. Hmmm...I guess you learn something new every day. ;)

Nah, they don't really suck. I have an innate hatred for all things USC. ;) I just am getting frustrated with sports writers who won't put faith in Midwest teams like my own and stick with the normals like LSU and USC when they don't really have a snowball's chance in . . .to get into a nat'l championship. Let someone else take the torch for a while, ya know?
And believe me, I understand disappointment. I'm a Missouri fan. We feel it every day. ;) This is the first time since 1960 that we've been #1, and that position got taken away by us because of a loss to Kansas--a game that was later forfeited because Kansas played an ineligible player. Talk about a heartbreaker, yeah? :(

I mean heck, you're a witness to it. We don't have a great record at bowl games either. We lost to your team last year at the Sun Bowl by 1 measly point. :eek: We finally get to cheer at the end of an important game, not gripe about what could have gone differently like we have had to do for so many years. Its no fun making up excuses for why your team lost, as obviously any sports fan knows. :P

Buttabean

12-01-2007, 11:27 AM

Off to the Big 12 Championship game today. . .wish us luck! ;)

scbyd23

12-01-2007, 01:23 PM

Off to the Big 12 Championship game today. . .wish us luck! ;)

Go not OU ;)

Jason

12-01-2007, 07:16 PM

The Territorial Cup (ASU vs UofA) is in a couple hours.

Go Devils!

rossid

12-01-2007, 09:42 PM

USC won as did the two teams ahead of them in the BCS standings - LSU and Virginia Tech.

Go Rainbows! :D

Les_Is_More

12-02-2007, 12:42 AM

ZippyApplePants

12-02-2007, 12:49 AM

The 111th Civil War was played today, and Oregon State beat #18 Oregon in double OT, 38-31. What a tense game! :eek: Now as long as ASU beats Arizona like they should(right now ASU is only up 13-10), the Beavers will meed Texas in the Holiday bowl. What a great day to be a Beaver! :D

#2 West Virginia loses, and #1 Mizzou is losing to UO 28-17.

I saw highlights of the Oregon-Oregon St. game, it looked pretty tense! I was happy Oregon St. won. :)

Also come on Missouri, CU beat Oklahoma for crying out loud! :eek:

Jason

12-02-2007, 02:04 AM

The Territorial Cup (ASU vs UofA) is in a couple hours.

Go Devils!

It was an ugly win, but ASU won.

Buttabean

12-02-2007, 02:15 AM

West Virgina and Mizzou both lost. I'm numb. When that wears off, I'm planning on crying.

Jason

12-02-2007, 02:19 AM

West Virgina and Mizzou both lost. I'm numb. When that wears off, I'm planning on crying.

I wanted Mizzou to win.

rossid

12-02-2007, 02:20 AM

Even though I'm Big Ten I wanted them both to win.

BCS championship game = OSU vs. GA/LSU???

truster

12-02-2007, 03:44 AM

Even though I'm Big Ten I wanted them both to win.

I'm Big 12 and wanted that, too.

So..... I think this should be sufficient evidence for the need of a playoff system. Anyone else?

Mr.Elwood

12-02-2007, 05:55 PM

Ohio State plays no one and doesn’t go undefeated. Doesn’t play in the last 2 weeks while everyone else is killing each other and end up No. #1?

Other than total bias and money… what possible reason does the Big Ten have to say they are a quality conference? From what I remember when those top teams stepped out of conference that got beat down..

Vince McMahon probable runs the BCS anywho..:P

rossid

12-02-2007, 07:43 PM

http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3

This is just the first strength of schedule that came up on a Google search.

15. Mississippi State (6-5) 0.202 first team listed that has a winning record
44. Georgia (9-2) 0.073
52. Virginia Tech (10-2) 0.041
57. LSU (11-2) 0.030
61. USC (10-2) 0.012
66. Oklahoma (11-2) 0.001
75. Ohio State (10-1) -0.064

Here are the top six teams in both the AP and USA today poll and their strength of schedule. OSU is down there and I would say Georgia is the one that deserves a shot at them.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest%20schedule/ia_9games_cumm.pdf

The NCAA puts OSU at 48th. Virginia Tech is number 3!

Gotta run but this is some more to chew on until the standings come out in a little over 90 minutes.

Buttabean

12-02-2007, 07:48 PM

I'm Big 12 and wanted that, too.

So..... I think this should be sufficient evidence for the need of a playoff system. Anyone else?

yeah, I think that either they all have a championship game or none of them do. That way no one can back their way into the Nat'l championship game. I can hear the beeping now. . .

rossid

12-02-2007, 08:14 PM

If you have a three game lead, lose your last two games, then get into a championship IMHO it is backing in. By MY definition OSU did not back in. Everyone else backed out. :P

Ed: "Tiger Woods posted a number and waited for them to fall." That was said by the commentator next to Chris Rose.

Number one and two lost SEVEN times this week out of twelve games. Heard that on the radio.

The following was copied from BCSFootball.org prior to the final standings. Teams then added after they were announced.

National Championship Game
January 7, 2008
BCS No. 1 vs. BCS No. 2
1 OSU vs. 2 LSU

Orange Bowl
January 3, 2008
BCS vs. BCS
(ACC if available)
3 Va Tech vs. 8 Kansas

Fiesta Bowl
January 2, 2008
BCS vs. BCS
(Big 12 if available)
4 OU vs. 9 WVU

Sugar Bowl
January 1, 2008
BCS vs. BCS
(SEC if available)
10 Hawaii vs. 5 Georgia

Rose Bowl
January 1, 2008
BCS vs. BCS
(Big Ten & Pac-10 if available)
13 Illinois vs. 7 USC

NOTE: BCS standings still have not been posted as of 7:26 pm central time.

Bowl schedule: http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/schedule

Buttabean

12-02-2007, 09:50 PM

OK, now I'm triple pissed. LSU v. OSU for championship, and Mizzou didn't even get a BCS bowl. No, no. That went to kU, who does NOT deserve it. Even the sports dudes know that. I'm not just saying that because I'm ticked. GRRR. I'm crying now.

rossid

12-02-2007, 09:51 PM

clemsontigers23

12-02-2007, 09:59 PM

Georgia probably got robbed, but Mizzou DEFINITELY got robbed, and I'm not even a fan of Mizzou. Kansas has the 109th toughest schedule and has only beaten one ranked team...#24 Kansas State.

This season has been ruined by money and politics. I went to a college football PLAYOFF game last night (Richmond at Wofford) and the atmosphere was great. The only reason why we can't have this in D-1A is money. Money, money, money. What a joke.

Plus, Ohio State didn't deserve to get in it either because of their 75th ranked schedule. They haven't beat anyone. Georgia beat 4 ranked teams. Virginia Tech beat some great teams. Oklahoma beat the #1 team twice.

Ohio State only moved up because they were #3 last week...Georgia was #4, so why didn't they move up since Ohio State moved up? I don't get it. I thought it was bogus that Florida jumped Michigan last year, but that's another story. The BCS is ruining college football for me. I wonder if we could get people to stop giving money to the schools by buying tickets and merchandise, if that would convince the college presidents that it would be in their best interests to think about their fans instead of their wallets.

EDIT: According to the computers, Virginia Tech was the #1 team. Thought that was interesting.

Jason

12-02-2007, 10:13 PM

ASU gets the Holiday Bowl against Texas.

rossid

12-02-2007, 10:36 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3138666

Surprising Kansas to face ACC champ Va. Tech in Orange Bowl

Associated Press

Updated: December 2, 2007, 8:38 PM ET

A week later than it wanted, Kansas beat Missouri. And an Orange Bowl bid is the surprising Jayhawks' reward.

The eighth-ranked Jayhawks (11-1) got their first Bowl Championship Series berth Sunday and will meet Virginia Tech (No. 3 BCS, No. 5 AP) (11-2) in Miami on Jan. 3.

Kansas, which set a school record for wins, was an at-large pick. The Hokies got their Orange Bowl spot by beating Boston College for the Atlantic Coast Conference title.

The programs have never met.

Kansas' national championship hopes were dashed in a 36-28 loss to Missouri on Nov. 24, a game that sent the Tigers into the Big 12 Championship.

In the final BCS standings, sixth-ranked Missouri was two spots ahead of the Jayhawks, yet the Orange Bowl went with Kansas, a move certain to spark controversy.

Missouri led the BCS standings entering the weekend, then got knocked from the title game by losing to Oklahoma Saturday.

No conference can have three BCS representatives, so the Tigers ended up losing again Sunday when the Orange Bowl opted to give Kansas its first invitation to a January bowl game since 1969.

Neither Virginia Tech nor Kansas has ever won South Florida's showcase college game.

Kansas lost to Georgia Tech in 1948 and to Penn State 21 years later. The latter was the so-called "12th man game" when the Nittany Lions got the winning two-point conversion with 15 seconds remaining after Kansas was flagged for having 12 men on the field for the first try.

Virginia Tech's only Orange Bowl appearance was Dec. 31, 1996, a 41-21 loss to Nebraska.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

http://www.columbiamissourian.co m/

Tigers in Cotton Bowl

07:12 PM The Missouri football team announced Sunday evening it has accepted a bid to play in this season's Cotton Bowl. The Tigers, ranked No. 7 in Sunday's new AP poll, will play No. 25 Arkansas on Jan. 1 in Dallas.

Buttabean

12-03-2007, 12:01 AM

:( I can understand the drop in our rankings completely. I was at the game last night, and Mizzou DID NOT show up. But to drop us out like that? Yeesh.

And now they're going to be in Dallas, and I can't even go. :( We're celebrating Texas Christmas that day. (we're going to Missouri for real Christmas). Boo.

And on a side note, I'm going to whine. I blew a tire on the way home from San Antonio today, and then once I finally got home my laptop fell out of my backpack (I thought it was zipped and it apparently wasn't) and now I have a busted compy. There's broken-pixel lines all up and down the screen. Boo. Worst weekend ever.

Les_Is_More

12-03-2007, 01:01 AM

And on a side note, I'm going to whine. I blew a tire on the way home from San Antonio today, and then once I finally got home my laptop fell out of my backpack (I thought it was zipped and it apparently wasn't) and now I have a busted compy. There's broken-pixel lines all up and down the screen. Boo. Worst weekend ever.

I'm feeling your pain. My Oregon State Beavers got ripped-off. They finished third in the Pac-10 and got sent to the Emerald Bowl, which is for the 4th pac-10 team. The Oregon Ducks, who the Beavers just beat, had the same record and are going to the Sun Bowl, which is designated for the 3rd place Pac-10 team. I know the Sun Bowl can choose the teams from the designated conferences, and probably wanted a new team in El Paso this year.

ASU should have been in a BCS game(along with Mizzou) which would have moved OSU up to the Holiday bowl. But instead, we got the short end of the stick and are playing 6-6 Maryland in the Emerald Bowl. I can only say that the Beavers better annihilate the Terrapins to prove they deserved a better bowl. GO BEAVS!!!

Jason

12-03-2007, 02:39 AM

I'm feeling your pain. My Oregon State Beavers got ripped-off. They finished third in the Pac-10 and got sent to the Emerald Bowl, which is for the 4th pac-10 team. The Oregon Ducks, who the Beavers just beat, had the same record and are going to the Sun Bowl, which is designated for the 3rd place Pac-10 team. I know the Sun Bowl can choose the teams from the designated conferences, and probably wanted a new team in El Paso this year.

ASU should have been in a BCS game(along with Mizzou) which would have moved OSU up to the Holiday bowl. But instead, we got the short end of the stick and are playing 6-6 Maryland in the Emerald Bowl. I can only say that the Beavers better annihilate the Terrapins to prove they deserved a better bowl. GO BEAVS!!!

Yeah. ASU should've been in the Fiesta and OSU in the Holiday. Grrrrr.

Mr.Elwood

12-03-2007, 12:22 PM

ESPN (mostly Herbstreet) are such bowl whores..:eek:
They can actually report, and try to sound intelligent, that Ohio State deserves to be in the title game because of their record, but deny Oklahoma because “if they’d looked all season like that did last weekend...”. So, if that is the standard, then how does Ohio merit a shot after looking sooo good against Illinois?

I seriously hope LSU does an ever better job of making sure the Big Ten is humiliated once again. I feel sorry for the players, but something has to shake this monopoly loose so everyone has a REAL chance to be #1