Live Earth...is environmentalism a false religion?

[clemsontigers23]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4117905a22915.html - Live Earth

http://www.reformed.org/webfiles/antithesis/index.html?mainframe=/webfiles/antithesis/v1n2/ant_v1n2_environ.html - Environmentalism a False Religion?


I've heard environmentalism referred to as a false religion, and I can't say I disagree with that. Seeing as how the Earth is going to be destroyed anyways, should we really be focusing so much on the environment? The thing that I've noticed as well is it's usually the same people who promote baby killing (abortion), gay marriage, legalized drugs, etc. Many environmentalists seem to be involved in the new age self-help religion as well. They seem more concerned about the environment than people and the global warming propaganda is certainly getting stronger.

My question to you is simple. Is environmentalism another false religion like new age self-help? As an added bonus, do you believe there's any point in trying to save the environment when the world's going to be destroyed anyways?

[Sam!]

Depends how you define it. If you elevate the environment above the place God has set for it, then yes. We are charged with being good stewards of the creation God has given to us, and so we should be taking care of our temporary home.

[middletree]

Seeing as how the Earth is going to be destroyed anyways, should we really be focusing so much on the environment?

The rest of your post made so much sense, but this is just silly. Of course we are to take care of the environment. Adam was tasked with taking care of the earth, and that responsibility was never taken from him.

[rossid]

... do you believe there's any point in trying to save the environment when the world's going to be destroyed anyways?

Yes the point is to pass SOMETHING on to our kids, grandkids, however long it might be until the rapture.

[kiwisongbird]

That's like saying should we bother taking care of our bodies if they are going to turn to dust - or even should we bother taking care of our children, as they will turn to dust also... yes, silly...

As Christians I think we can show people how to take care of our environment as we take care of people... here in Thailand they burn all their trash, it's terrible - sometimes you can't breathe... we choose not to burn ours and also not to take so many plastic bags when we go shopping (it's the land of plastic bags here too!!) As we chat to people about why we don't do that it impresses them that we care about them and their country - surely that's a Godly thing :)

[freakysoccer]

I think that enviornmentalism could be a false religon if you become to wraped up in it, but i also think that it is immportant to perserve the earth for future generations. I am an environmentalist to an extent and i believe that we should protect one of the most precious things that God gave us, earth and life. If we can't apperciate this wonderful planet then how can we apperciate anything else. God says that his son will return but when is not specified it could be today or 1000 years from now so in my opinion we should protect what we have left and let God decide when the earth should turn to ruins.

[bholdj]

[ Seeing as how the Earth is going to be destroyed anyways, should we really be focusing so much on the environment?


Since i will die someday, can I just do drugs and X and gain 1,0000 pounds from eating food :D :rolleyes: ?

An earth that has pollution and greenhouse problems, is an earth not real safe for belivers to share the love of Jesus Christ to others. So yes, taking care of the environment is very important and we should focus on it.

[clemsontigers23]

Okay, I admit that was a stupid question lol. I guess what I meant to say is we should definitely do our part to preserve the environment, but as far as taking drastic measures to prevent global warming, it seems a little pointless to put so much effort and energy into saving something that can't be saved when there are people out there who CAN be saved. I'm not saying we should just forget about the environment and let it go to waste, but I am saying we shouldn't be pouring so many millions of dollars into preventing the end of the world when the end's going to come anyways. See what I'm saying? I guess it depends on how extreme you take it.

[middletree]

Just for the record, the greenies don't believe we are destroying the planet. They think we are making it unlivable for humans and animals. The earth still stands, unshaken. This is an important distinction because the bible tells us that the planet itself will be destroyed and replaced with a new heaven and new earth (See Revelation ch. 21)

As for environmentalism, like everything else, it's more gray than black and white. There is some responsibility that we as followers of God have to take care of this planet. Where the greenies lose focus is that they try and nail down the behaviors of individuals, when ultimately, most of the polluting is being done by big business. Still, big business needs to be reined in somewhat, as they don't tend to care about pollution if compliance with green principle costs them money. So some environmental laws are needed.

On the other side, extreme environmentalists are wrong in several areas, too. They invent species that don't exist (spotted owls), they think govt is the best way to protect life (laws only complicate things), and they follow spurious science (global warming), and want us to subject our nation under the control of other nations (Kyoto treaty).

[rossid]

So is anyone watching the Live Earth concerts? Just got on in the last hour to see John Mayer(live in New Jersey) and then on TV they've got the Red Hot Chili Peppers(tape in London).

[ausgirl]

I would say yes in that the Earth has so much become the focus of some people that they almost worship it.
I believe we must look after the earth just like we should look after anything
God has provided for us, however, there is a line that needs to be drawn too.

[RevZeek]

Just for the record, the greenies don't believe we are destroying the planet. They think we are making it unlivable for humans and animals. The earth still stands, unshaken. This is an important distinction because the bible tells us that the planet itself will be destroyed and replaced with a new heaven and new earth (See Revelation ch. 21)

As for environmentalism, like everything else, it's more gray than black and white. There is some responsibility that we as followers of God have to take care of this planet. Where the greenies lose focus is that they try and nail down the behaviors of individuals, when ultimately, most of the polluting is being done by big business. Still, big business needs to be reined in somewhat, as they don't tend to care about pollution if compliance with green principle costs them money. So some environmental laws are needed.

On the other side, extreme environmentalists are wrong in several areas, too. They invent species that don't exist (spotted owls), they think govt is the best way to protect life (laws only complicate things), and they follow spurious science (global warming), and want us to subject our nation under the control of other nations (Kyoto treaty).

Huzzah for this post! :D

*saves*

[blacksheep]

"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal"-Paul

Of course, how else should we expect unbelievers to act? The question is, how should believers act? I've seen several in what I am now going to call the neo-evangelical movement, run to get on board with this "climate crissis" movement and that concerns me. I'm all for living a conservative, non-wasteful lifestyle, but this movement is not really about that. I'm all for cleaner air that cause less sickness, but this movement is not really about that. It's about how we as humans are the disease. WE are the problem, not what we do. I just read an article in a Brit newspaper about how we need to limit our families to two children in order to save the planet. I watched several hours of the "Live Earth" concert throughout the day and kept noticing how preachy the people involved were. I mean, the sounded very ecclesiasticle. And then someone, I forget who, said that Al Gore was the savior of the planet. That comment left me feeling a little queezy. A perfect false religion is one that mirrors the truth almost exactly, but at the same time manages to take out the one and true God.

So, is this a false religion? My answer is absolutely, and it's breaking my heart.

[middletree]

Blacksheep, your post is full of wisdom.

[SonflowerGurl]

godly stewardship = Good. :D

Thinking, we as mankind can solve ALL our problems ourselves (or by controlling other people) = BAD :eek:

[CAfan]

I personally believe the whole global warming thing is a scam cooked up by a bunch of liberals to intimidate voters. Al Gore is heavily invested in companies that benefit from any legislation passed to stop global warming. :rolleyes: I pretty much stay away from anything liberal democrats are pushing no matter what it is. If they think the earth is getting hot now wait until it really burns up! Or better yet, if they think the earth is getting hot wait until they are in the lake of fire. Sorry if that sounds harsh but anyone who thinks it is OK for people of the same sex to be lovers or marry eachother or that it is OK to murder unborn babies, IS GOING TO BE IN THE LAKE OF FIRE! :eek: That's what the bible says. :P