Bush commutes Scooter Libby's Sentence...

[Evanescence]

Just heard this on the news....

Scooter will now get probation and fines....

Man, can this President bury himself any deeper in the haze of favortism and cronism?

Pathetic!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[rossid]

Was Valerie Plame really under cover?

[Valpo]

scooter was the wrong guy all along anyway....check plumes husband and go back to the sources of the leak (the media).

[Evanescence]

scooter was the wrong guy all along anyway....check plumes husband and go back to the sources of the leak (the media).

perhaps....

and Cheney also......

[NurseBettyLu]

It's just one of those things I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth about. Everybody looks dirty to me.

[HotWireD]

Just heard this on the news....

Scooter will now get probation and fines....

Man, can this President bury himself any deeper in the haze of favortism and cronism?

Pathetic!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I have to agree on this occasion.
What sort of message is G.W.Bush sending out?

...and what an opportunity for the Democrats to criticise him.

Hilliary Clinton was on the radio earlier and took great pleasure in pointing out how George looks after his mates.

[jabob]

This was partially the right thing to do. I am hoping for an eventual full pardon.
1. The supposed crime was revealing the identity of a CIA agent. That is only a crime if the agent is working undercover. Valerie Plame had a desk job.
2. The prosecutor knew at the beginning of the investigation that Richard Armitage was the source of the "leak". The goal however was to get Vice President Cheney; so that was kept quiet.
3. Libby was convicted of the same thing President Clinton was. Clinton lost his law license. Libby was sentenced to jail time.

President Bush's actions here are simply a message that this type of politically motivated false prosecution by the federal government should not be tolerated. However, because Libby did break a law (not the one he was charged with), Bush left the fine intact.

[Valpo]

I have to agree on this occasion.
What sort of message is G.W.Bush sending out?

...and what an opportunity for the Democrats to criticise him.

Hilliary Clinton was on the radio earlier and took great pleasure in pointing out how George looks after his mates.

Hillary's a joke

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

[luvmyrottie]

Libby was also left with the federal conviction. He just doesn't do any jail time. Can you still vote with a federal conviction?

[thief001]

Was Valerie Plame really under cover?

No. As a matter of fact, by the time this story was leaked, she was buried behind a desk in D.C.

[thief001]

I have to agree on this occasion.
What sort of message is G.W.Bush sending out?

...and what an opportunity for the Democrats to criticise him.

Hilliary Clinton was on the radio earlier and took great pleasure in pointing out how George looks after his mates.

All I have to say about Chillary is this. It's funny how she can criticize the President for commuting Libby's sentence when her husband PARDONED 400 CONVICTED FELONS in the final hours of his presidency, including his good buddy, Mark Rich.:rolleyes:

[Evanescence]

All I have to say about Chillary is this. It's funny how she can criticize the President for commuting Libby's sentence when her husband PARDONED 400 CONVICTED FELONS in the final hours of his presidency, including his good buddy, Mark Rich.:rolleyes:

Amen to that....the whole Presidential pardon thing needs seriously revamped....or done away with !!!!

[jabob]

Amen to that....the whole Presidential pardon thing needs seriously revamped....or done away with !!!!

I disagree; I like the complete freedom of it. This is one of those little constitutional quirks that makes the United States interesting and it serves an important role in the checks and balance between the branches.

[rossid]

Thank you for posting Bill Clinton's pardons. Here are his commutations:
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clinton_comm.htm

It does not look like George Bush's pardons are listed yet since he is still in office.

Here are the pardons and commutations of Bush Sr. which at first glance seem to be quite lengthy. I'm not sure how they compare to Clinton's.

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/bushgrants.htm

[Evanescence]

I disagree; I like the complete freedom of it. This is one of those little constitutional quirks that makes the United States interesting and it serves an important role in the checks and balance between the branches.

Maybe 200 yrs ago, but in today's political climate, its a haven for corruption...

[jabob]

Are you suggesting there was no corruption 200 years ago? I think we are sometimes naive about what the political climate was in the past. Some of the campaigns of the 19th century make today's mudslinging look like a birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese. The favors handed out before the era of electronic communication would make you either freeze or boil. Politicians get away with much less today than in the past. The founding fathers knew corruption would be present, even with pardons. They saw it as the only way to grant the citizens of this country the tremendous personal freedoms we enjoy. To be the freest people in the world takes much responsibility.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Just heard this on the news....

Scooter will now get probation and fines....

Man, can this President bury himself any deeper in the haze of favortism and cronism?

Pathetic!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I agree it's not right, because if that were you or me, we're sitting our sorry behinds in the can for 30 months, no and's, if's or but's. But does it really matter whether Bush did it or someone else. A democratic president has done the same things. It just gives the other side something to complain about. what would really be nice is if all the time spent on in-fighting amonst both parties could be spent on really finding away to get out of, not just Iraq, but the middle east, period. Okay, off of soap box.

[wbthornton]

Now he should pardon the INS agents who are sitting in jail.....all for shooting an illegal alien with 700 pounds of marijuana in his possession.....in the keister. *roll eyes*