View Full Version : Are you willing to get a microchip implanted?
middletree
06-27-2007, 11:26 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070626/hl_afp/ushealthsciencetechnology ;_ylt=AguKQStm0.XY5conVnr V1usDW7oF
Each week, seems someone is is increasing the call for implanted chips in people. This time, it's doctors.
mat1583
06-27-2007, 11:39 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070626/hl_afp/ushealthsciencetechnology ;_ylt=AguKQStm0.XY5conVnr V1usDW7oF
Each week, seems someone is is increasing the call for implanted chips in people. This time, it's doctors.
I wrote a research paper about the use of RFIDs in humans and whether or not it should be regulated for my computer ethics course. I think the government should never NEVER force people to use these chips.
edit: To answer your original question, possibly if it were strictly voluntary and if I had very good reason to have one.
-washboard
middletree
06-27-2007, 12:24 PM
It might not be the govt, at least not for many years.
So the question is (perhaps I should have made this a poll) are you willing to get a chip? What if it's in your left hand, or leg?
EmmoGomer
06-27-2007, 12:33 PM
No way!! Far too freaky. It's not science fiction any more it's becoming science fact!
I know several people who would say this is the mark of the beast.......over to you on that one :D
middletree
06-27-2007, 01:01 PM
People have been saying it's the Mark for over 20 years, and we have had several threads here about it.
The reason I bring it up today is because there are increasing numbers of people calling for it to be implanted in (choose one) the elderly, hospital patients, babies, or inmates. So rather than rehash whether or not it is the Mark, my question to everyone here is simple: would you get the implant?
DareDevil
06-27-2007, 03:19 PM
No way!! Far too freaky. It's not science fiction any more it's becoming science fact!
I know several people who would say this is the mark of the beast.......over to you on that one :D
I'd be surprised if it should be possible for a Christian to get the mark of the beast by accident. So no, I don't think we have to worry about that. The potential for the chip being abused is still too high though. So no, I would not take the chip voluntarily.
Would you walk around with a giant sign on your head containing all the information in the chip? Sounds like a great idea for an older person, especially one with Alzheimer's, to help if they wander off. The problem of course is that the information is easily abused. It creates at least as many problems as it solves. I'd be quicker to get my name tatooed somewhere on my body than have an ID chip that literally anybody with the right piece of equipment could scan without my knowledge.
HotWireD
06-27-2007, 04:17 PM
Would you walk around with a giant sign on your head containing all the information in the chip? Sounds like a great idea for an older person, especially one with Alzheimer's, to help if they wander off. The problem of course is that the information is easily abused. It creates at least as many problems as it solves. I'd be quicker to get my name tatooed somewhere on my body than have an ID chip that literally anybody with the right piece of equipment could scan without my knowledge.
Agreed.
It would be handy for me in my line of work for people to be RFID'd - lost old people and children could be quickly identified.
HOWEVER, my concerns are civil liberties and the abuse of the information - anyone can read an RFID with the right (completely portable) equipment.
It will not be long before a DNA based identification system will be up and running - a swab taken from the forehead could be processed within twenty minutes (how long can an official hold you before they are violating your rights?) and the resulting unique number would be able to be searched against a computer database to find out everything they wanted about you anyway. This may do away with the arguments for an implanted chip.
RFID technology is already used in microchipping pets and animals, I would not be surprised if some parents have already had their children RFID'd for safety.
I can see in the near future a housing community advertising RFID readers on all lamp posts and shop doors in the area, so children could be tracked throughout their travels by a RFID chip either implanted, or hidden in their clothing.
Twilight Zone anyone????????? I will go for the tattoo (preferably of a likkle cute pink elephant).
mindyhere
06-27-2007, 06:38 PM
It depends, for me.
At this point in my life - no, I wouldn't get it because it wouldnt' be helpful to me or my family in any way.
If in the future, I had a health condition that needed specific care, and having that chip cold save my life should I be in an accident and unconscience going into the hospital ... I would lean towards the implant.
I personally don't care what people know about my health, my disease, what meds I have to take etc. So in my case, if someone "scanned" me it wouldn't upset me.
Well there are pros & cons.
On the one hand is portability of your health insurance.
Let's say for example you change doctors, and your old doctor tells you, "sure, I will give you a copy of your chart to take to your new Dr. That will be $250 in copying fees." This is a real life example of something that happened to a patient of mine....and she is still waiting on her records.
Another example is if you go on a vacation & have an accident. You are out of it & unable to give any information about your medical history. If you have a severe allergy to a certain med, there is no way for the ER staff to know this & therefore you are at risk of being given something that could harm you.
On the other hand...hackers are hacking into computers, cell phones, etc, and I am just not sure of the ability to keep the information secure from that type of thing.
luvmyrottie
06-28-2007, 03:45 PM
just seems too "big brother" for me. I would not get the implant.
Evanescence
06-28-2007, 09:09 PM
You people should listen to yourselves...
You are rationalizing getting a COMPUTER CHIP imbedded into your body!!!! 20yrs ago, people called me nuts when i spoke about this. Now, we have been desensitized to a point we are considering it. "It could have some good purposes..."
Friends, despite the very real possibility of this leading to or BEING the mark of the Beast as prophesized in Revelation, this is absurd to even consider. It IS big brother...tracking you, invading your privacy....eventually forcing you to absolutley HAVE one or else. Thats how it works. Slow and easy, creeping in, making you think its for your own good and to protect our children...
Then, you're are one of them.
Me, NO WAY. Not never, nor my kids or my wife. Never!
Evanescence
06-28-2007, 09:14 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070626/hl_afp/ushealthsciencetechnology ;_ylt=AguKQStm0.XY5conVnr V1usDW7oF
Each week, seems someone is is increasing the call for implanted chips in people. This time, it's doctors.
How long till the corrupt HMO's and Insurance companies REQUIRE people to have this device, or they won't cover you? How many people....the DUMB unsuspecting, uneducated public, will cave in and get this so they can remain covered? "I have to protect my children..." we'll hear them say...
Evil creeps in....:mad: :mad: :mad:
Aussie3rddayfan
06-29-2007, 02:03 AM
Would I get an microchip? I think not.
How long till the corrupt HMO's and Insurance companies REQUIRE people to have this device, or they won't cover you? How many people....the DUMB unsuspecting, uneducated public, will cave in and get this so they can remain covered? "I have to protect my children..." we'll hear them say...
Evil creeps in....:mad: :mad: :mad:
E,
You may disagree with those who advocate getting one, but I am just not seeing the basis for calling it "evil." It's a piece of technology. Computers can be used for great things and they can be used to commit atrocious crimes. Computers aren't evil. An RFID chip to identify yourself isn't a pledge of allegiance to anybody or anything.
WeaselInYerFoot
06-29-2007, 11:25 AM
If I was working for a company that sent me to some hostile country, I'd probably get the chip so they could have the ability to locate me in case something happens.
mat1583
06-29-2007, 01:56 PM
How long till the corrupt HMO's and Insurance companies REQUIRE people to have this device, or they won't cover you? How many people....the DUMB unsuspecting, uneducated public, will cave in and get this so they can remain covered? "I have to protect my children..." we'll hear them say...
Evil creeps in....:mad: :mad: :mad:
My g/f wears a watch that has a metal identification tag on it because she has an undiagnosed seizure disorder. If she were to have a seizure and go unconscious, the watch is the only way that a paramedic might know what's going on...and that's if they even think to look at it. In her case, an RFID chip could be used in place of the watch in a location that EMTs would know to scan. What's the difference there, E?
-washboard
middletree
06-29-2007, 02:37 PM
What's the difference there, E?
Excellent question. What do you think the difference might be?
Evanescence
06-29-2007, 10:37 PM
E,
You may disagree with those who advocate getting one, but I am just not seeing the basis for calling it "evil." It's a piece of technology. Computers can be used for great things and they can be used to commit atrocious crimes. Computers aren't evil. An RFID chip to identify yourself isn't a pledge of allegiance to anybody or anything.
I never said it was evil, I said evil creeps in. Thats the way people think..."Whats the big deal?" .... "Whats the worst that can happen"? Evil creeps in through the most subtle of circumstances, with the unsuspecting public thinking along these lines. Thats how it was in Nazi Germany and during the rise of the Roman Empire.
Look at how much talk you hear on the news and TV about security and protecting our kids. We are pumped full of this crap allt he time so we'll be DEPENDANT on the Govt and the system. Thats how they will see this technology and once its used for health reasons, it'll open the door for other things...tracking, security, exchanging of money and banking, etc etc. Creeping in the entire time.
This technology will not start off as mandatory, becuase no one will stand for it. It will start off as, "Its for your own good..." Or, "It will protect our children," ....people will flock to get it...even thinking its hip and cool. Kids will joke about how they're a Terminator or emulate Star Wars etc etc. Once its common and no big deal, then it'll become part of our lives for good....then mandatory....then most likley, the Mark of the Beast.
My g/f wears a watch that has a metal identification tag on it because she has an undiagnosed seizure disorder. If she were to have a seizure and go unconscious, the watch is the only way that a paramedic might know what's going on...and that's if they even think to look at it. In her case, an RFID chip could be used in place of the watch in a location that EMTs would know to scan. What's the difference there, E?
Huge difference. One is imbedded in your body, supporting the technology that may be the Mark of the Beast. Sure it would be a good thing for her, and thats what they want you to say. This is what they want, for it to creep in and for people to brag how good it is....how it saved lives and protected children etc etc. Then it'll be all over.
My very good friend's wife is a RN and is currently working on this technology...flying to different hospitals all over the country. I've known about it before the FDA approved it on Oct 13, 2004. My wife would never be permitted to participate in such activities. They think like many other weak minds. It's no big deal.
Mark my words. In ten years or less, the medical community and/or health insurance companies will make this mandatory for its policy holders. No chip? No coverage. You heard it here first.
And when the option is get an RFID chip for you and your kids, or no health coverage for any of you, what will you do?
Evanescence
06-30-2007, 09:54 PM
And when the option is get an RFID chip for you and your kids, or no health coverage for any of you, what will you do?
Laugh in their face...
My wife and kids will not be having any RFID chips. If the wife gets one...out she goes...the kids can have that chioce when they turn 18. But, they'll all have enough sense not to get swept away with the madness of becoming a cyborg.
I think a lot of people think like me but when it comes right down to it....when the system manipulates us into it...like with the health care, HMOs etc etc, people will cave. Then, everything will be in place for the next phase...:D
And if either of your kids, or your wife has a life-threatening chronic illness, will you still be laughing?
Also, are you serious about the "out she goes" bit?
freakysoccer
07-01-2007, 10:52 AM
I would not get one. yes, it is a good piece of technology but i don't want it used in the wrong way.
teresaUK
07-01-2007, 03:25 PM
You people should listen to yourselves...
You are rationalizing getting a COMPUTER CHIP imbedded into your body!!!! 20yrs ago, people called me nuts when i spoke about this. Now, we have been desensitized to a point we are considering it. "It could have some good purposes..."
Friends, despite the very real possibility of this leading to or BEING the mark of the Beast as prophesized in Revelation, this is absurd to even consider. It IS big brother...tracking you, invading your privacy....eventually forcing you to absolutley HAVE one or else. Thats how it works. Slow and easy, creeping in, making you think its for your own good and to protect our children...
Then, you're are one of them.
Me, NO WAY. Not never, nor my kids or my wife. Never!
Amen and Amen!................... thank God for a gomer with some wisdom........ It really scares me the number of christians that would consider it......but then the bible says that many will be fooled.
clemsontigers23
07-04-2007, 08:40 PM
This could definitely be technology leading up to the Mark, although I don't believe this is it. However, I still wouldn't get it. I don't want all of my information in my hand or anywhere on my body. I don't want anything in my hand period.
Evanescence
07-04-2007, 10:21 PM
Been thinking about this....maybe they can put the chip in my middle finger...then I can show them where it is...
:cool: :cool: :cool:
teresaUK
07-05-2007, 04:55 AM
Been thinking about this....maybe they can put the chip in my middle finger...then I can show them where it is...
:cool: :cool: :cool:
I was about to amen that........but..... however ....I agree!! :cool:
sandie
07-05-2007, 05:29 AM
I already have a microchip.....
for each of my two cats and my dog. :P
teresaUK
07-05-2007, 07:55 AM
I already have a microchip.....
for each of my two cats and my dog. :P
They'll still go to heaven because the decision was out of their hands (or rather paws) ;)
HotWireD
07-05-2007, 08:17 AM
Been thinking about this....maybe they can put the chip in my middle finger...then I can show them where it is...
:cool: :cool: :cool:
... and then bite it off when 'THEY' come looking for you. I am with you on that one.
My chief says "Trust is Good, BUT Supervision is Better"
(Surveillance = Supervision??)
The supervision 'we know what is best for you', 'benefits only for those who bend over' type society we are moving rapidly towards is frightening. I have spoke to some of my colleagues and they think it is great - until I point out the obvious (to me) concerns.
I speak to members of the public - most are quite happy to abbrogate their responsibilties for less freedoms. "If you have nothing to hide then you should not be worried" they say. I point out that they may not have anything to hide from the current governments, but what is to say that a few years down the line a different ruler is in charge. We will have handed ourselves over on a plate.
I think a lot of people think like me but when it comes right down to it....when the system manipulates us into it...like with the health care, HMOs etc etc, people will cave. Then, everything will be in place for the next phase...
... or have to go live in caves. :confused:
prayercloth sis
07-05-2007, 07:28 PM
People have been saying it's the Mark for over 20 years, and we have had several threads here about it.
The reason I bring it up today is because there are increasing numbers of people calling for it to be implanted in (choose one) the elderly, hospital patients, babies, or inmates. So rather than rehash whether or not it is the Mark, my question to everyone here is simple: would you get the implant?
Yeah it all sounds good, looks good and makes sense for material and this world's reasoning......but it won't happen for me and my kids...because the number of the beast is coming and however it does come...i don't won't it...and i truly believe this could be it...
in jesus name amen...
God Bless
Rhonie
Evanescence
10-05-2007, 12:34 AM
TTT
This goes with the Universal Health care issue...
Trillamum
10-05-2007, 02:14 PM
I don't think this is the mark of the beast, though the technology could forseeably be used for that. But I think that if a Christian takes the Mark of the Beast, they are going to know that they have turned their backs on God, it's not something that we won't know is walking away from Him.
However, in response to the would I get one question, I have to answer a firm and resounding NO! It's entirely too easy for it to be abused, and if it's so important that we have our medical information in digital form, we can always carry the little jump drives....which is still somewhat open to abuse, but, at least that you can throw away or beat to smithereens if it should ever become an issue.
Anyone seen The Fortress? This kind of question always reminds me of that movie.
Trillamum
10-05-2007, 02:18 PM
E, would you ever microchip your pet? Just curious.
sandyandporter
10-05-2007, 03:08 PM
You people should listen to yourselves...
You are rationalizing getting a COMPUTER CHIP imbedded into your body!!!! 20yrs ago, people called me nuts when i spoke about this. Now, we have been desensitized to a point we are considering it. "It could have some good purposes..."
People are STILL calling you nuts! LOL ;) But E, I'm with you on this.
Evanescence
10-05-2007, 03:36 PM
E, would you ever microchip your pet? Just curious.
Yes, 666 doesn't apply to my pet...but I'll resist it for the sake of rebelling against the system...the same system who will try to manipulate us into HUMANS getting it....for..."Its for your own good..."
"It'll help catch the bad guys"
*Inject fake smile, and tilt head while smiling*
Bull!!!!!!!
[QUOTE][People are STILL calling you nuts! LOL But E, I'm with you on this./QUOTE]
Thanks, its good to be loved.....:cool:
clemsontigers23
10-05-2007, 05:18 PM
The main thing I'm listening for is you HAVE to get it to purchase food and other supplies...that it's required. That's straight out of Revelation, and I'm not going to fall prey to having something unnatural and potentially evil put in my body.
Evanescence
10-05-2007, 11:07 PM
The main thing I'm listening for is you HAVE to get it to purchase food and other supplies...that it's required. That's straight out of Revelation, and I'm not going to fall prey to having something unnatural and potentially evil put in my body.
Now we're taling Clemson...but really who has the right to tell you that you HAVE to have a chip implanted?
I'm not a cyborg and ain't doin' it....
I'll live in the Mtns as a hermit or on a desert isle before I allow it...
I still think its far off, but I pity my kids...the kids I don't even have yet, they'll have to deal with this crap...
I did think seriously once about starting a coalition of people who will refuse any/all chips for reasons of religious reasons...that would stall it for a while...
I think some states already have laws in place but the fed Govt will/can over ride it....
Its madness to think people will actually line up to have it done, sheer madness....
clemsontigers23
10-05-2007, 11:09 PM
Now we're taling Clemson...but really who has the right to tell you that you HAVE to have a chip implanted?
I'm not a cyborg and ain't doin' it....
I'll live in the Mtns as a hermit or on a desert isle before I allow it...
I still think its far off, but I pity my kids...the kids I don't even have yet, they'll have to deal with this crap...
I did think seriously once about starting a coalition of people who will refuse any/all chips for reasons of religious reasons...that would stall it for a while...
I think some states already have laws in place but the fed Govt will/can over ride it....
Its madness to think people will actually line up to have it done, sheer madness....
Well it says when the saints are being killed that people will flee to the mountains and rooftops and that it will be the worst time ever on Earth, but thankfully it will be only a short time.
Evanescence
10-05-2007, 11:31 PM
Well it says when the saints are being killed that people will flee to the mountains and rooftops and that it will be the worst time ever on Earth, but thankfully it will be only a short time.
I'll have a cabin for you and all the other Gomers....
We can sit around and watch 911 Truth Vids all night....:D
kiwisongbird
10-06-2007, 10:23 AM
I think we all need to read the Left Behind books again, they'll tell us what to do... :eek: :eek: ;)
NurseBettyLu
10-06-2007, 05:01 PM
You get one free when you buy a Motorola cellphone.
Evanescence
10-07-2007, 03:29 AM
You get one free when you buy a Motorola cellphone.
Really? Come on....??????????
teresaUK
10-07-2007, 07:20 PM
I'll have a cabin for you and all the other Gomers....
We can sit around and watch 911 Truth Vids all night....:D
Sounds cosy.......:cool: ........... Hey -you hunt as well, so we wont go hungry by not taking the mark.....:D
NurseBettyLu
10-07-2007, 08:48 PM
Really? Come on....??????????
Gotcha. Urban legend. Sorree.
Evanescence
10-07-2007, 11:24 PM
Gotcha. Urban legend. Sorree.
haha...good one....I was wondering...
I almost Googled to look for it...lol....
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