Arrest Made In JonBenet Ramsey Murder Investigation

[Tony Trout]

Here's the story:

Arrest Made In JonBenet Ramsey Case (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2320953)



Aug. 16, 2006 — An arrest has been made in connection with JonBenet Ramsey murder case, Ramsey family attorney Hal Haddon told ABC News.

The arrest comes nearly 10 years after the 6-year-old girl was found strangled and beaten to death in the basement of her Boulder, Colo., home on the day after Christmas, in a case that shocked the country and that has remained unsolved.

The Associated Press, citing U.S. law enforcement officials, reported that a man was arrested in Thailand in connection with the slaying. Federal officials familiar with the case told the AP on condition of anonymity that the man was being held in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges.

Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials along with the Boulder County police helped identify and locate the suspect, who was arrested Tuesday night, sources told ABC News.

JonBenet Ramsey, a child beauty queen, was found murdered in the basement of her family's upscale Boulder, Colo., home the day after Christmas, 1996.

Her mother, Patsy Ramsey, first found a handwritten ransom note on the back staircase of the home. It demanded $118,000 — the exact amount the little girl's father, John Ramsey had received as a corporate bonus — if the family wanted to see JonBenet again. Eight hours later, Patsy Ramsey found her badly beaten daughter's body in the basement.

From the beginning, the focus of suspicion was directed squarely at her father, a software millionaire, and his wife, a former beauty queen.

The Ramseys refused to take a lie-detector test and would only agree to be interviewed by police together.

Yet the Ramseys were steadfast in defending their innocence.

"Let me assure you, I did not kill JonBenet," Patsy Ramsey said then.

The Ramseys offered a reward of $100,000 to the person who captured their daughter's killer. They also wrote a memoir, "The Death of Innocence" and filed libel suits against several news outlets. Three years after the murder, investigators officially cleared the Ramseys.

"Our family name has been destroyed," John Ramsey said. "We want the killer of our daughter found."

But never-ending speculation in the tabloid press, and numerous books, continued to feed the nation's interest.

"It is our hope that this arrest will bring some closure to the Ramsey family after a 10-year ordeal," Haddon said today. "We respect the legal process and will have no further comment about the case or the evidence until that process is concluded."

The District Attorney's Office in Boulder said they would hold a news conference Thursday regarding the arrest. Boulder police did not immediately comment on the case.

[Evanescence]

I always knew there was more to this than met the eye....

The plot thickens....:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Tony Trout]

Suspect Admits Killing JonBenet Ramsey (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2323313)



Suspect Admits Killing JonBenet Ramsey

American Suspect Admits to Killing 6 Year-Old JonBenet Ramsey, Calls Her Death 'An Accident'

BANGKOK, Thailand Aug 17, 2006 (AP)— The American suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case said publicly Thursday he was with the 6-year-old when she died and called her death "an accident," a stunning admission that will help answer 10 years of questions in the unsolved murder case.

"I was with JonBenet when she died," John Mark Karr told reporters in Bangkok, visibly nervous and stuttering as he spoke. "Her death was an accident."

Police said Karr, 41, admitted to the killing after he was arrested Wednesday at his downtown Bangkok apartment by Thai and American authorities.

Karr will be taken to Colorado within the next week where he will face charges of murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst, Department of Homeland Security attache at the American Embassy in Bangkok, said at a news conference in Bangkok.

Karr, speaking to reporters after the news conference, declined to say what his connection was to the Ramsey family or how long he had known JonBenet. Wearing a blue, short-sleeved shirt, he appeared ashen with an expressionless look on his face.

JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in the basement of the family's home in Boulder on Dec. 26, 1996.

The image of blonde-haired little JonBenet in a cowgirl costume and other beauty pageant outfits has haunted TV talk shows ever since, helping feed myriad theories about her killer, and the case became one of the most sensational unsolved murder cases in the nation.

Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul said U.S. authorities informed Thai police on Aug. 11 that an arrest warrant had been issued for Karr on charges of premeditated murder. The warrant was sent to Thai police on Wednesday.

At the press conference, Suwat said Karr insisted after his arrest that his crime was not first-degree murder. "He said it was second-degree murder. He said it was unintentional. He said he was in love with the child. She was a pageant queen," Suwat said.

The Thai officer quoted the suspect as saying he tried to kidnap JonBenet for a $118,000 ransom but that his plan went awry and he strangled her to death. Patsy Ramsey, JonBenet's mother, reported finding a ransom note in the house demanding $118,000 for her daughter.

Hurst said Karr has been "very cooperative" with authorities and that he's shown a "variety of emotions." She said he has been a suspect "for a while" but wouldn't specify how long.

Suwat said Karr arrived in Bangkok on June 6 from Malaysia to look for a teaching job. It was not clear whether he had gotten a job, the police officer said.

[rossid]

My twelve year old was up early watching the news. "They said 'we are Christians so blah blah blah' ". I mentioned perhaps they said they were to forgive but was hurrying to get ready for work and we did not discuss it at length. I said that Mormons say they are Christians but most Christians don't view them as such.

Still, regardless, it is good that an arrest has been made.

[Tony Trout]

Here's another article I ran across this morning:

Suspect Confesses To Killing JonBenet Ramsey (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/17/ramsey.arrest/index.html)


Ex-teacher claims death wasn't intentional: 'I loved her' (:rolleyes: :confused: :mad: )

Thursday, August 17, 2006; Posted: 11:20 a.m. EDT (15:20 GMT)

BANGKOK, Thailand (CNN) -- An American arrested in Thailand said Thursday he was with child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey when she died in 1996 and called her death "an accident."

"I was with JonBenet when she died," suspect John Mark Karr, a 41-year-old schoolteacher, told reporters in Bangkok. "I loved JonBenet, and she died accidentally."

Asked by a reporter if he was an innocent man, Karr replied, "No."

Karr will be extradited to Boulder within the next week and has been charged with murder, kidnapping and sexual assault on a child, said Ann Hurst, a Department of Homeland Security attache at the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok.

Karr's arrest Wednesday came nearly a decade after the 6-year-old girl's body was found in the basement of her Boulder, Colorado, home -- setting off a media sensation.

The arrest also came less than two months after JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey, died of cancer at 49.

Karr told The Associated Press he wrote Patsy Ramsey before she died to express his remorse.

"I conveyed to her many things, among them that I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," he told the AP, which described him as sweating and stuttering.

Karr added that he believed Patsy Ramsey had read the letters he sent her.

Karr was arrested at his apartment in Bangkok.

According to colleagues at the Thai detention center where Karr was questioned, the suspect asked police what charges he was facing. When they replied first-degree murder, he said: "No, it's second-degree -- it wasn't intentional," said Lt. Gen. Suwat Thamrongrisakul, chief of Thai immigration.

Abduction gone awry?
Suwat quoted Karr as saying that he tried to kidnap JonBenet for $118,000 ransom but that the plan went awry and he strangled her, according to an AP report.

Karr had been a suspect for a while, Hurst said, adding that her office and the Thai police worked closely for two months before a judge believed probable cause existed for an arrest.

Karr was under investigation for an unrelated sex crime when information led to his arrest in the Ramsey case, two law enforcement sources said.

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, told KGO-TV in California that she does not believe her former husband killed JonBenet because he was with her in Alabama at the time, The Associated Press reported.

The arrest likely will dispel the cloud of suspicion that has hung over JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, ever since the girl's death on December 26, 1996.

John Ramsey discovered his daughter's body after the girl had been reported missing that morning and Patsy Ramsey said she found a ransom letter demanding $118,000.

Ramseys always blamed intruder
JonBenet is buried in Georgia, where the family lived before moving to Colorado.

John and Patsy Ramsey made an impassioned plea on television in 1997 for information.

Autopsy results showed JonBenet received a massive blow to the head and was strangled with a rope that the killer tightened by twisting an attached paintbrush handle.

The Ramseys maintained an intruder killed their daughter, but they remained the subject of suspicion in the case.

A grand jury investigation ended with no indictments.

Karr confessed to some elements of the crime, law enforcement officials said, and had been communicating with someone in Boulder working with officials on the case. Earlier, CNN affiliate KUSA had reported that the elements the suspect had confessed to were unknown to the public.

Karr's online communications were a key part of the probe, officials said.

Patsy Ramsey knew of break in case
The arrest came too late for Patsy Ramsey, who died in June. However, John Ramsey said he and his wife knew investigators were pursuing a suspect.

"Patsy was aware that authorities were close to making an arrest in the case, and had she lived to see this day, would no doubt have been as pleased as I am," the statement said.

Pam Paugh, Patsy Ramsey's sister, said, "I don't feel that I need to stand here and say to the world, 'I told you so.' We are a family that has lived on the truth, and the truth as we knew it was that neither John nor Patsy, Burke [JonBenet's older brother] nor any other family member had ever laid a hand on JonBenet."

Ramsey attorney Lin Wood said Karr "has some background" in Conyers, Georgia, an Atlanta suburb. Karr's father and brother live in the Atlanta suburb of Sandy Springs.

Karr's brother, Nate, said: "This whole thing is ridiculous."

Asked whether he knew the suspect, John Ramsey told KUSA, "To my knowledge, no, I didn't, but I don't know enough yet to say for sure."

Patsy Ramsey was laid to rest beside her daughter in Marietta, Georgia. On Wednesday, a family friend taped a note to her grave. It read, "Dear Patsy, justice has come for you and John. Rest in peace."

[TX3DFan]

Now his EX-wife is claiming an alibi for him and that he couldn't have done it because he was in Alabama with her. Why would an EX do this? The plot thickens even more.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4123552.html

I sure don't think I'd remember what I was doing 10 years ago, little less what my spouse was doing.

[Debbie]

Now his EX-wife is claiming an alibi for him and that he couldn't have done it because he was in Alabama with her. Why would an EX do this? The plot thickens even more.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4123552.html

I sure don't think I'd remember what I was doing 10 years ago, little less what my spouse was doing.

Exactly. Heard on the news this morning that he just sort of up and left the family after some particular incident. His father also presumed he was dead. I might have some of that wrong, I was just walking by the TV.

[rossid]

That alibi, the alleged letters to Patsy Ramsey before she died, there is just something weird about this family IMHO. Not lessening the fact that an innocent child was murdered.

[Tony Trout]

By reading the statement from the suspected killer that he wrote a letter to Patsy expressing remorse for his actions and her knowing that they were close to making an arrest makes one really wonder if they didn't already know who killed JonBenet....


(did that make sense?)

[ObiShawn]

There are some things not clicking though concerning his confession. He said that she was either drugged or given alcohol but the blood results were clean he also said that her death was an accident while forensics show that she was intentionally murdered.

Anyway, it is best to not jump to conclusions and just wait for the evidence to either prove or disprove this guy. Now, whether he actually did it or not, he must not be right in the head.

[Tony Trout]

What do y'all think?

Confession In JonBenet Case Questioned

BOULDER, Colo. (Aug. 17) - For a moment, it seemed the decade-old mystery surrounding the slaying of a child beauty queen had been solved. But authorities Thursday cautioned against rushing to judge the schoolteacher who made a stunning confession that he killed JonBenet Ramsey.

For now, the only public evidence against John Mark Karr are his own words. And questions have already been raised about the details of his story, including whether he drugged the girl, sexually assaulted her or was even in Colorado at the time of the slaying.

Those questions led some to wonder whether Karr was the answer to the long-unsolved slaying or a disturbed wannabe trying to insert himself into a high-profile case.

"We should all heed the poignant advice of John Ramsey," Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy, quoting the little girl's father. "Do not jump to conclusions, do not rush to judgment, do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course."

Paraded before a raucous crush of reporters in Bangkok, Thailand, the sullen Karr told how he loved JonBenet, was with her when she died but that her death was an accident. And while vague on the details - "it would take several hours" - he answered flatly when asked if he was innocent: "No."

"The bottom line is that they now have a confession and until and unless they can corroborate that confession with either physical evidence or strong circumstantial evidence, that's all they have," said Scott Robinson, a Denver attorney who has followed the case from the beginning.

Added former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman: "I have to believe they have more than this kooky confession."

Karr told investigators he drugged and sexually assaulted the little girl before accidentally killing her in her Boulder home, according to a senior Thai police officer who was briefed about the interview with U.S. authorities.

Yet JonBenet's autopsy report found no evidence of drugs, saying her death was caused by strangulation after a beating that included a fractured skull. And while it describes vaginal injuries, it makes no conclusions about whether she was raped.

Karr's ex-wife told TV reporters she cannot defend him, then insisted he was with her in Alabama during Christmas 1996, when JonBenet's battered body was found in the basement of her home. And authorities have not said whether Karr could have written the detailed ransom note found in the Ramsey home, with its demand for $118,000 (the bonus that had recently been awarded to the girl's father, John Ramsey).

Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails with Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.

"I don't know that he's guilty," said Michael Tracey, who teaches journalism at the University of Colorado. "Obviously, I went to the district attorney for a reason, but let him have his day in court and let JonBenet have her day in court and let's see how it plays out."

Karr himself added to the mystery, telling The Associated Press in Bangkok that JonBenet's death was "not what it seems to be."

Asked what happened when JonBenet died, he said: "It would take several hours to describe that. It's a very involved series of events that would involve a lot of time. It's very painful for me to talk about it."

Any previous relationship between Karr and the Ramseys remained a mystery Thursday, though both have ties to suburban Atlanta. District Attorney Lacy refused to discuss the case during a brief news conference and suggested Karr's arrest may have been forced by concern over public safety and fears the suspect might flee.

"There are circumstances that exist in any case that mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete," Lacy said.

Karr, 41, was arrested at a Bangkok apartment Wednesday, a day after he began teaching second grade at an international school, Lacy said.

Hours later, Thai authorities sat him before a crowded room of news crews. Karr stunned reporters by admitting: "I was with JonBenet when she died. Her death was an accident."

"I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr told the AP.

Legal experts said DNA evidence will likely be key: DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear and authorities have never said whether it matches anyone in an FBI database. U.S. and Thai officials did not directly answer a question at a news conference about whether there was DNA evidence connecting Karr to the crime.

Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. The results of that test were not immediately known. Karr will be given another DNA test when he returns to the United States in the next several days, the official said.

Karr will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told reporters in Bangkok.

Lin Wood, the Ramsey family's longtime attorney in Atlanta, said Karr went to great lengths to conceal his identity in e-mails to the university professor, going so far as to use a computer server in Canada.

Asked if authorities could tell whether Karr had firsthand knowledge of the murder or had just picked up information from news accounts, Wood said: "There is information about the murder that has never been publicly disclosed." He did not elaborate.

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, was quoted by San Francisco television station KGO saying she was with her former husband in Alabama at the time of JonBenet's killing and she does not believe he was involved in the homicide.

Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said there were "serious questions" about the case.

"I hope we have found the murderer of JonBenet, but I have not heard the evidence that compels that conclusion," he said.

Karr's description of the case as an accident also rang false to experts.

"It's hard to imagine a more intentional, deliberate murder than hitting a little girl in the head so hard that she had almost a foot-long fracture in her skull and then deliberately fashioning a garrotte to twist until it buries in her neck and slowly stops her breathing," said Silverman, the former Denver prosecutor. "This has always been a case of deliberate murder."

[jaelgomer]

when I first saw reports about the arrest, something just didn't seem right. I mean, after ten years, everythging just seemed to fall into place way too easily and something just seemed a little fishy. My thinking was he got so involved with the case that he convinced himself he had really done it. People do that, ya know. Make themselves believe something even they know isn't true. I think that or my brother in law believes it was a payoff of some kind. i don't know. THe whole thing just doesn't make sense. Who knows if we'll ever know what happened. I mean, if this is the man who did it, great, the family can finally rest, but I don't think it's over yet. Something's up. i'm not saying the family had anything to do with it, because for one, who am i to accuse them of something like that and i just hate to believe a person could arrange to have their own little girl killed, but there's definatley more that we don't know and may never know.

[Tony Trout]

Hmm.....

Karr Knew Murder Scene Secrets (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/18/karr.questions/index.html)



BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- John Mark Karr gave authorities graphic details about the condition of JonBenet Ramsey's body that have been kept secret for nearly a decade, a U.S. law enforcement source told CNN on Friday.

Those details were known only to the medical examiner and the investigators investigating the December 26, 1996 slaying of the 6-year-old beauty pageant competitor, the law enforcement official said.

Meanwhile, Ramsey family attorney Lin Wood told The Associated Press that JonBenet's mother Patsy Ramsey agreed to meet with the man who claimed to be her daughter's killer to help investigators.

But Patsy Ramsey died of ovarian cancer in June before the meeting took place, the AP said.

Karr, 41, said he believed Patsy Ramsey read his correspondence expressing remorse for JonBenet's death before she died.

But Wood told the AP that Patsy Ramsey never received Karr's letters or e-mails because the correspondence was routed to police.

"He thought that he was corresponding with Patsy, but he wasn't," Wood told the news service.

Friday's developments lent further mystery to the high-profile murder case.

Karr was taken into custody Wednesday morning in Bangkok, Thailand, where he had just started a teaching job.

A U.S. warrant called for his arrest on suspicion of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault.

He said he loved JonBenet, and killed her by accident.

Despite Karr's startling confession, many questions remain to be answered before authorities can say the case has been solved.

Questions about whereabouts
One of those questions was raised by Karr's former wife, Lara Karr, who says he was with her in Alabama or Georgia during the 1996 Christmas holidays.

JonBenet's body was found in the basement of the Ramsey home in Boulder, Colorado, early on the morning of December 26. Karr told reporters in Bangkok that he was with JonBenet in the basement when she died.

But Lara Karr's attorney, Michael Rains, said his client "sincerely believes there was no Christmas ... anytime between 1989 and 2000 when they were married ... when her husband was not with her and her family at Christmastime."

Evidence from the Colorado crime scene contradicts Karr's version of events. JonBenet's death was violent, investigators found. An autopsy showed she received a massive blow to the head and was strangled with a rope that the killer tightened by twisting an attached paintbrush handle.

Karr has not publicly given details about how he got into the Ramsey house and, if he did so, how he found his away around the maze of rooms, hallways and closets.

Even police overlooked the storage room where JonBenet's body was found during their first search after the girl was reported missing.

Karr's connection to Colorado is also vague. Although his e-mail correspondence with a University of Colorado journalism professor led to his arrest in Thailand, authorities said, they have produced no evidence to show Karr was ever in Colorado.

The Rocky Mountain News published on its Web site Friday excerpts of what investigators say they believe are e-mails between Karr and professor Michael Tracey, including one that read: "JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness..."

Another question is Karr's familiarity with the Ramsey family.

Ramseys didn't know Karr
JonBenet's father, John Ramsey, said in an interview Wednesday that he did not know Karr. But a ransom note, found in the Boulder home after JonBenet went missing, addresses John Ramsey in a familiar tone, repeatedly using his first name and calling him a "fat cat."

The ransom note demanded $118,000, the amount he had received in a company bonus before his daughter was killed.

At a news conference Thursday, Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy said the case is still under investigation. "There is much more work that needs to be done now that the suspect is in custody."

"John Karr is presumed innocent," Lacy said. "Do not jump to judgment. Do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course."

The professor who put authorities on the trail of Karr took a similar tack.

"I don't know that he's guilty," Tracey told the AP. "Obviously, I went to the district attorney for a reason, but let him have his day in court and let JonBenet have her day in court and let's see how it plays out."

U.S. and Thai officials are working on clearing Karr's return to the United States, although no date for the transfer has been set.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and Thai authorities worked closely on the case for two months before Karr's arrest on Wednesday, ICE attache Ann Hurst said.

Officials in Bangkok said he had traveled to Thailand -- a country notorious for its child sex trade -- five times in the past two years.

[Jake]

My thinking was he got so involved with the case that he convinced himself he had really done it. People do that, ya know.

That's my theory right there.

[Tony Trout]

I thought I posted this once before but it didn't show up...odd...:confused:



Karr's DNA Doesn't Match: No Charges To Be Filed (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ramsey.arrest/index.html)


BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- The DNA sample taken from suspect John Mark Karr does not match DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body and no charges will be filed against the schoolteacher who claimed he was with the child when she died, CNN affiliate KUSA reported.

KUSA, based in Denver, Colorado, quoted two sources in a bulletin on its Web site:

"9NEWS has confirmed from two sources that the DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr is not a match with the foreign DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in 1996. 9NEWS has also learned the Boulder County District Attorney's office will not file charges against Karr in connection with the Ramsey case."

KUSA says other sources also confirm that no charges will be filed against Karr in connection with the Ramsey case by the Boulder County District Attorney's office.

CNN is working to independently confirm the report as Karr awaits his first court appearance in Colorado later Monday afternoon. Karr will appear before Judge Roxanne Bailin at 4:30 p.m. (6:30 p.m. ET).

The Denver station reported that samples of Karr's saliva and hair were taken in Boulder after his arrival Thursday evening. Those samples were tested over the weekend by the Denver Police Department's crime lab.

The Colorado television station says those tests ruled out Karr's DNA is as the foreign DNA left on JonBenet's body when she was slain in December 1996.
JonBenet was covered in a blanket when her body was found. Foreign hair fibers were found on that blanket and they did not match any of the Ramsey family or approximately 100 people that were tested.

Karr still faces charges of child pornography in California.

Earlier Monday, Karr's defense team requested that prosecutors hand over DNA evidence in the Ramsey case.

Public disclosure of any DNA evidence was specifically barred by a gag order issued Friday. The order applies to all attorneys and law enforcement officials involved in the case.

The 41-year-old suspect is being held in Boulder County Jail on suspicion of first-degree murder, first- and second-degree kidnapping, and sexual assault. No formal charges have been filed yet by Boulder prosecutors.

Documents list Karr's birthplace as Conyers, Georgia, and his occupation as "teacher."

Karr was brought back to the United States from Bangkok, Thailand. He arrived in Colorado Thursday evening from California, where he skipped bail in 2001 after being charged in Sonoma County with five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography.

Karr appeared at a brief hearing in Los Angeles and waived extradition to Colorado.

He told reporters in Thailand he was with JonBenet the night she died, and that her death was an accident. The child's beaten and strangled body was found December 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home.

Autopsy results showed she had suffered a blow to the head and been strangled with a garrote tightened with a paintbrush handle.

After Karr's statements in Thailand, questions have surfaced as to whether the slight, soft-spoken man could have been involved in the grisly killing.

Earlier this year, Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado, alerted authorities to e-mails he had been receiving from a person now believed to be Karr.

Tracey, who has produced a documentary about the Ramsey case, said there was something in the e-mails "that made me decide I had to try and do something." But he would not say just what prompted him to contact prosecutors.

A law enforcement official told CNN that Karr's e-mails to Tracey were initially innocuous but that the professor contacted authorities when they became "weird." The communications were eventually tracked to Thailand.

Tracey told CNN Thursday he also learned Karr's name five days before the arrest.

[Healing Oil]

John Mark Karr is seriously a very disturbing individual. When you look at him, there is just nothing there. I pray that this break finally puts this case to rest! It is so sad that he was arrested so shortly after Patsey's death!

Edit: His family has admitted to his obsession with JonBenet and this case. He is not looking so good at the moment and his attorneys are urging him to keep his mouth shut. What I believe is one of the most incriminating clues that it was Karr was the ransom note. It was signed "Victory! S.B.T.C"...Well for "years" detectives couldnt decifer what that meant. One of Karr's highschool classmates turned in his/her year book where Karr had signed that one day "I Shall Be The Conquerer" (all capitalized I believe). That is too coincidental for his own good. He has also been known to have disturbing obsessions with other murder cases involving girls that were JonBenet's age. Also years ago when he was like 20, he married a 13 year old! Whether or not he is guilty...which I am leaning towards...he is not right and is dangerous.

[Sedosi]

He's not going to be charged with any crime. Seems that maybe he fantasized his entire story.

Charges dropped against Karr (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060828/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey_411)

Seems that the DNA evidence came back negative. So he made all of this up, which is just as (if not more) disturbing then if he had done it. :(

[Evanescence]

He's not going to be charged with any crime. Seems that maybe he fantasized his entire story.

Charges dropped against Karr (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060828/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey_411)

Seems that the DNA evidence came back negative. So he made all of this up, which is just as (if not more) disturbing then if he had done it. :(

Just saw that....I figured there was soemthing up with that guy...

He should be charged for stupidity and forced to do time for that...

he's gonna be dealing with kiddie-porn chargs in CA, for sure. A real sicko this guy is....:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Sedosi]

He should be charged for stupidity and forced to do time for that...


It is one of my greatest fears in life that someday they will make stupidity a crime.

Boy will that jail cell be crowded, and I'm claustraphobic.

[kiwisongbird]

Hope he doesn't get his job with 2nd graders back - how one earth did he get that job? :eek:

[jaelgomer]

What I want to know is why all that money was wasted to fly him back here to the states when all the DA had was his testimony which had a ton of holes in it? That man needs help, but I don't think anyone should be flying him back on business class and letting him sip on champagne and eat lobster pate or whatever he got to eat. Stick him in some mental ward back in Thailand, but if being crazy and obsessed buys you a flight and fancy food, hey, maybe I'll confess to something that I have absolutely no connections too!
I am glad he's gonna be charged with something, but they need to get with it up in Boulder if they're gonna arrest every crazy guy with some wacko confession. (no offense to anyone in Boulder, or the surrounding area. Hey, I'd say the same thing if it happened right here where I am!)

[Evanescence]

Maybe he just wantd a free ride back tot he US,.... :rolleyes:

[Mugirl04]

he was let go today

[kiwisongbird]

Well, I for one am very very happy that there is one less sicko western guy living here in Thailand - hopefully he won't be able to get a job with children in America like he did in Thailand!

[Healing Oil]

This is the first Ive heard of this and Im deeply disappointed. A big part of me thought it was him. Obviously he was so obsessed with the case that he imagined he did it. Regardless he needs to be locked away by reason of insanity. He is not right and he seems so dangerous.

This poor family!

[Mugirl04]

Well, I for one am very very happy that there is one less sicko western guy living here in Thailand - hopefully he won't be able to get a job with children in America like he did in Thailand!
HE won't i heard he was being taken to cali for charges againist him

[kiwisongbird]

Good...

[jaelgomer]

I dont' think the Ramsey family was holding their breath. They seemed to just be waiting it out. They probably knew this guy was just some sicko, like the rest of us. I doubt they really get too excited over much. I don't think they're gonna have closure till someone confesses, they find the evidence to support it, and he's sent to jail. That's when they will celebrate and finally feel some closure, as much closure as you can feel when you've lost a young child.
Maybe not, but if it were me, I wouldn't get too excited everytime something comes up. I'd wait till there was no doubt they had the killer

[Mugirl04]

i think this is one case that will always be unsolved