Zarquari killed in Iraq!!!!

[Evanescence]

They got him!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5058304.stm

:cool:

[Mugirl04]

They got him!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5058304.stm

:cool:
i am glad.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

pwnd

[Mugirl04]

pwnd
what does pwnd mean

[Healing Oil]

In a way this is sad, because he is probably spending an eternity in Hell. But this is also good news because he can never hurt anyone else again. I pray this is a moral boost for our troops.

[cheewiee]

In a way this is sad, because he is probably spending an eternity in Hell...

As I was watching GMA this morning cover this story, I looked over to my wife, and asked her, Could you imagine Zarquai's expression when he got to Heaven and saw Jesus sitting at God's right hand, and no Mohammed to be seen?

What is sad is that he placed his faith in a religion of works, and has to anwer for his sins before God.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Oh, look at that, our useless military pulled another one off!!!

[Healing Oil]

As I was watching GMA this morning cover this story, I looked over to my wife, and asked her, Could you imagine Zarquai's expression when he got to Heaven and saw Jesus sitting at God's right hand, and no Mohammed to be seen?

What is sad is that he placed his faith in a religion of works, and has to anwer for his sins before God.
Yea I was wondering about that too.

[bholdj]

They got him!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5058304.stm

:cool:

fantastic :cool:

[mat1583]

I don't understand why everyone is so excited. Did al Queda stop functioning when Osama went into hiding? Did the insurgent attacks stop when Sadam was captured? Sorry, but the insurgents don't need a spokesperson/leader to build and detonate roadside bombs and carry out kidnappings.

-washboard

[seeker]

^ look at it like this: If our president (or vice president in this matter) was killed, would our government stop working? Of course not, but it would be a huge moral blow to our society, not to mention all the responsibilities he carried out in his day to day affairs ie, planning, organizing, looking over national affairs, etc. Does that mean the government wont work any more? No, but it wouldn't have the same leadership as it did and it would take a while for things to get back to "normal".

[Seeking_One]

Hey everybody! Im a little new here, but I have been reading some of the discussions on here a while. Just registered today. Stumbled across this a while ago and I wanted to give a little thought to the "news of the day".

This is very good news in some ways, but in another sense, it's not. Terrorism definitely has a way of "healing" its wounds. I am afraid all the death of Zarquawi will do is give the terrorists a martyr and a reason to fight all the more.

I guess if you think about it, terrorists cells, no matter how many you kill, will always find a way of growing back. Terrorists leaders, no matter how many you capture, will always find another to fill their shoes.

A good movie, if you can bear the violence, is Munich. It describes this realization of terrorism quite well.

Anywho, the main thing we need to be in prayer for is our troops and the terrorists who are fighting our troops, not to mention the innocent men and woman caught in the middle. Im afraid this war is far from over, and I am afraid another "Zarquawi" will soon find his place in Iraq.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

They got him!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5058304.stm

:cool:

Zarqawi.... by the way...


what does pwnd mean


It's all here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwnd#Theories_about_the_w ord.27s_etymology)

[HotWireD]

Hey everybody! Im a little new here, but I have been reading some of the discussions on here a while. Just registered today. Stumbled across this a while ago and I wanted to give a little thought to the "news of the day".

This is very good news in some ways, but in another sense, it's not. Terrorism definitely has a way of "healing" its wounds. I am afraid all the death of Zarquawi will do is give the terrorists a martyr and a reason to fight all the more.

I guess if you think about it, terrorists cells, no matter how many you kill, will always find a way of growing back. Terrorists leaders, no matter how many you capture, will always find another to fill their shoes.

A good movie, if you can bear the violence, is Munich. It describes this realization of terrorism quite well.

Anywho, the main thing we need to be in prayer for is our troops and the terrorists who are fighting our troops, not to mention the innocent men and woman caught in the middle. Im afraid this war is far from over, and I am afraid another "Zarquawi" will soon find his place in Iraq.

Welcome to the boards and also thanks for a great post.

[mat1583]

^ look at it like this: If our president (or vice president in this matter) was killed, would our government stop working? Of course not, but it would be a huge moral blow to our society, not to mention all the responsibilities he carried out in his day to day affairs ie, planning, organizing, looking over national affairs, etc. Does that mean the government wont work any more? No, but it wouldn't have the same leadership as it did and it would take a while for things to get back to "normal".

Our country and our citizens are completely different from the insurgents in Iraq. The insurgents could care less about who is leading them. They just want to destroy American and Iraqi citizens. They base this on their fundamentalist Islamic views, which are hardly influenced by just one leader. Did we bow down and admit defeat when 9/11 happened? No, we stepped up operations and went on the attack. Do you think the insurgents are just going to throw in the towel just because one of their infamous leaders has been killed? Of course not. In fact, I would expect to see an increase in attacks in the next couple weeks.

-washboard

[Mugirl04]

Zarqawi.... by the way...



It's all here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwnd#Theories_about_the_w ord.27s_etymology)
thanks

[ObiShawn]

I don't understand why everyone is so excited. Did al Queda stop functioning when Osama went into hiding? Did the insurgent attacks stop when Sadam was captured? Sorry, but the insurgents don't need a spokesperson/leader to build and detonate roadside bombs and carry out kidnappings.

-washboardI agree with your point, al Queda still exists, but it this is a victory nonetheless.

[1nonlyjen]

I would have loved to have seen his face once he stood before God, (and Darwin's) but yes, I'm afraid someone will take his place. However it is a victory and I am so glad for it.

[Evanescence]

Sorry for the mispelling...... Abu Altazar Zarcowardly???????:rolley es:

I was proud to the be the first to bring it to you....

Call it E-TV...

lol...:D

[WeaselInYerFoot]

Sorry for the mispelling...... Abu Altazar Zarcowardly???????:rolley es:


I'll let it slip by this time... but mispell his name again and...

[Grank]

I would have loved to have seen his face once he stood before God, (and Darwin's) but yes, I'm afraid someone will take his place. However it is a victory and I am so glad for it.
what's wrong with chuck?



you mean terrorist cells will work without their number one leader? they have a chain of command? you're kidd'n, right? i thought it was like a video game where if you get the leader you win. well, now that i know that, i think we should just give up.

pwnt... joo... hahaha

http://www.threepointstance.net/tpsbb/images/smilies/lold3ts6fo.jpg

[Tony Trout]

According to CNN, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was alive for a very short time but died almost immediately.

Here's the link: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Alive For Brief Time After Bombing (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/09/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html) and the story below:



U.S. military: Al-Zarqawi Alive When Troops Arrived


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was alive on a stretcher and tried to move off it when U.S. troops reached the wounded terrorist leader after his safe house had been bombed, a U.S. general said at a news conference Friday.

"Zarqawi did survive the airstrike," said Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, the spokesman for the U.S. military in Baghdad. "We did in fact see him alive."

Caldwell said he did not know how many minutes al-Zarqawi survived. He was the only person to survive the blast, reports indicate, and "mumbled a little something" indistinguishable to troops.

"The first people on the scene were the Iraqi police. They had found him and put him into some kind of gurney, stretcher, .... and then American coalition forces arrived immediately thereafter on site," Caldwell said.

"According to the person on the ground, Zarqawi attempted to ... turn away off the stretcher. Everybody re-secured him back on to the stretcher but he died almost immediately thereafter from the wounds he had received from the airstrike."

Acting on a maze of intelligence and tips, troops had targeted a "safe house" near Baquba in which al-Zarqawi was staying Wednesday evening. An F-16 jet dropped two 500-pound bombs on the house, reducing it to rubble.

Samir al-Sumaidie, Iraq's new ambassador to the United States, compared al-Zarqawi's life to a plague: "He wreaked havoc and he went. Good riddance."

"He headed a network of thugs and brutal killers," al-Sumaidie told CNN. Asked whether the death will end the insurgency, al-Sumaidie said, "It's not going to be overnight, but I do believe this will degrade their ability to do damage."

In Washington, President Bush congratulated U.S. troops for a "remarkable achievement."

"Zarqawi is dead, but the difficult and necessary mission in Iraq continues," he said. "We can expect the terrorists and insurgents to carry on without him."

A day after al-Zarqawi's death, at least 37 Iraqis died in Baghdad bombings Thursday, even as the Iraqi parliament ended a stalemate by finally naming key security ministers.

The FBI said there is no evidence that a retaliatory strike is in the works as a result of al-Zarqawi's death, but the agency advised its agents to review ongoing probes and intelligence in the hopes of detecting any possible revenge.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said the agency had matched the dead man's fingerprints with al-Zarqawi's prints on file and also would do a DNA analysis. Al Zarqawi's death was confirmed on Islamic Web sites.

Tips lead to airstrike
Tips and intelligence, authorities said, helped pinpoint al-Zarqawi's whereabouts.

Some of that information may have come from a senior al Qaeda in Iraq figure arrested in Jordan on May 22; more came from Iraqi civilians in and around Baquba; and Special Forces troops tracking al-Zarqawi's spiritual adviser developed still more, with help in at least one instance from those inside al Qaeda in Iraq, authorities said.

Special Forces developed information that the spiritual adviser, Sheik Abd-al-Rahman, would be attending the Wednesday meeting and likely would be with al-Zarqawi, military sources told CNN. Troops were on the ground nearby watching for al-Zarqawi.

Al-Rahman "was brought to our attention by somebody from within the network of Zarqawi's," Caldwell said.

Betrayed by colleagues
Gen. George Casey, the U.S. commander in Iraq, said the operation had been under way for a couple of weeks, leading to the safe house in a wooded area near Baquba. (Map of target)

Casey indicated that al-Zarqawi was betrayed by members of his own terror network.

"Tips and intelligence from Iraqi senior leaders from his network led our forces to Zarqawi and some of his associates who were conducting a meeting approximately eight kilometers north of Baquba when the airstrike was launched," he said.

Naser Joudeh, spokesman for the government of Jordan -- al-Zarqawi's birthplace -- said Jordanian security forces also played a role in locating al-Zarqawi.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said a videotape issued by al-Zarqawi that surfaced on the Web in April provided authorities with clues regarding his whereabouts.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said the $25 million bounty the U.S. put on al-Zarqawi's head would be honored, The Associated Press reported. "We will meet our promise," he told al-Arabiya television, the AP reported.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Gary North said two F-16s already in the air over Iraq were diverted to the target.

One jet acted as a targeting guide while the other first dropped a laser-guided bomb to ensure the house was hit, and then followed with a satellite-guided bomb to ensure it was destroyed, North said.

Casey said al-Zarqawi was dead when Iraqi security forces arrived on the scene minutes after the airstrike.

Among the five other people who died in the attack were al-Rahman, along with a woman and a child who had not yet been identified.

In the hours following the airstrike, forces carried out 17 simultaneous raids in Baghdad and its outskirts, which Caldwell said yielded a "treasure trove" of information.

Al-Maliki and Casey announced al-Zarqawi's death to applause in Baghdad.

"Iraqis can rejoice," said Caldwell, who showed reporters photos of al-Zarqawi's body after the raid. "They have earned it with their blood, their sweat and their tears."

Allegiance to bin Laden
Al-Zarqawi, 39, gained notoriety in February 2003, when then-Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared before the U.N. Security Council to make his case supporting the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Powell pointed to al-Zarqawi, then believed to have been in Baghdad, as evidence that al Qaeda had a presence in Iraq. (Watch how al-Zarqawi's kin feel about his death -- :20)

Al-Zarqawi was the leader of one of the nation's many insurgent factions. In October 2004, al-Zarqawi pledged his allegiance to al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden, and renamed his group al Qaeda in Iraq. (Relief for bin Laden?)

Al Qaeda in Iraq was blamed for brazen terrorist attacks, including a 2003 suicide bombing of U.N. headquarters in Baghdad that killed the U.N. envoy to Iraq and 21 others, and the November bombing of three hotels in Amman, Jordan, in which 60 people died.

Al-Zarqawi is believed to have been involved in the abductions and beheadings of several Western hostages. In addition, the United States believes al-Zarqawi had appealed to al Qaeda for help in starting a civil war in Iraq and encouraged sectarian violence. (Watch how al-Zarqawi murdered his way to the most-wanted list -- 2:50)

[coldcupofjoe]

what does pwnd mean

It's an intentional misspelling of the word owned, meaning 'I (or in this case, we) beat you.' Other variatons include ownt, pownt, pwnt and, pnt. Also you can expect to see even further variation depending on just 'how hard' the loser was 'pwnt' including but not limited to pwnzed, pwnzored and, pizownteded.

Common usage. 'Holy crap did you just see that head shot!?! PWNT!'
'From ACROSS the map, WITH A PISTOL!!! PWNZORED!!1!'
'Did you see that laser guided missle just RIP through that BUILDING!?! PIZOWNSERNTED!!!!!elventy-one!'

this concludes today's lesson on internet chat lingo. Have a nice day.

[Healing Oil]

It's an intentional misspelling of the word owned, meaning 'I (or in this case, we) beat you.' Other variatons include ownt, pownt, pwnt and, pnt. Also you can expect to see even further variation depending on just 'how hard' the loser was 'pwnt' including but not limited to pwnzed, pwnzored and, pizownteded.

Common usage. 'Holy crap did you just see that head shot!?! PWNT!'
'From ACROSS the map, WITH A PISTOL!!! PWNZORED!!1!'
'Did you see that laser guided missle just RIP through that BUILDING!?! PIZOWNSERNTED!!!!!elventy-one!'

this concludes today's lesson on internet chat lingo. Have a nice day.Lol, rediculous isnt it??

[coldcupofjoe]

Lol, rediculous isnt it??


Actually I kinda like it! It helps to know just exactly how hard some one lost. It's interesting in seeing an old way of communication put into a new context that lacks tone of voice, facial expression and any other meanignful body language and even handwriting cues become somehing where people can communicate with it just as easily as with face to face communication as long as you can understand the syntax.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

Lol, rediculous isnt it??

The interweb is pwning our speeches. B assimilated or b lolololol'ed at.

[jwil59]

The ultimate would have been for the bombs dropped on this punk to have contained pig blood. That way he himself would have known before he died what we know, that he's gonna burn. I respect those who can have concern about the lost soul of this terrorist. As a weak, vile, sinful human who relies soley on the grace of God and the blood of Christ for salvation, i will be honest about my 1st thought upon hearing of his death and it was, MAY HE ROT IN HELL.

[mcgreen311]

Thank you, Weasel and Hotwired. I am now catching every grammatical and spelling mistake, but I will refrain from pointing them out (and I will proofread my post a zillion times before submitting it).

I had a mixed reaction to the news. On one hand, it is a symbolic and perhaps literal victory. On the other hand, people are celebrating someone's death. Granted, he probably deserves what he got, but don't we all deserve death and hell?

Proverbs 24:17
Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when he stumbles, do not let your heart rejoice

I realize that it's not the same as watching your nemesis slip on a banana peel and then pointing and laughing. It still worries me though if the first reaction is "Yes, they finally got that <insert derogatory name>."

This isn't in repsonse to anyone else's post, by the way. I'm not trying to stir anything up.

[Evanescence]

Thank you, Weasel and Hotwired. I am now catching every grammatical and spelling mistake, but I will refrain from pointing them out (and I will proofread my post a zillion times before submitting it).

I had a mixed reaction to the news. On one hand, it is a symbolic and perhaps literal victory. On the other hand, people are celebrating someone's death. Granted, he probably deserves what he got, but don't we all deserve death and hell?

Proverbs 24:17


I realize that it's not the same as watching your nemesis slip on a banana peel and then pointing and laughing. It still worries me though if the first reaction is "Yes, they finally got that <insert derogatory name>."

This isn't in repsonse to anyone else's post, by the way. I'm not trying to stir anything up.

I'll have to find it, but somewhere I saw Paul say that we are permitted to rejoice in the fall of the wicked....

I have to find it, but I know i saw it...

Help anyone?

either way, I'm glad he's gone and hope this slows or puts an end to the insurgency in Iraq. God bless the people of Iraq and our troops.:cool:

[ObiShawn]

Proverbs 24:17 -

Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when he stumbles, do not let your heart rejoiceBut what if he didn't stumble? Can we rejoice then? Because it's more likely he flew through the air, I mean they dropped two 500 pound bombs on the guy.

just kidding

I realize that it's not the same as watching your nemesis slip on a banana peel and then pointing and laughing. It still worries me though if the first reaction is "Yes, they finally got that <insert derogatory name>."

You know McGreen, you are absolutely right. About 10 months ago, a local pastor's son got shot in the head at point blank range for riding a 4 wheeler on some property that the shooter had weed or a meth lab or something. That pastor is a shining example of how we should respond. He had no ill feelings toward the shooter, forgave him for the incident, and prayed for the man.

But I've gotta admit, I was one of the ones thinking to myself, "Sweet! They got him!" I find that compassion isn't one of my strong suits, but then again, his death isn't what pleases me. It is the fact that his reign of terror is over and innocents will no longer be hurt by his hand. But whether they arrested him or killed him, I'm just as pleased either way.

I know that my perspective on this may be wrong, and God help me, but that's just how I feel about it.

[mcgreen311]

but what if he didn't stumble? Can we rejoice then? Because it's more likely he flew through the air, I mean they dropped two 500 pound bombs on the guy.

just kidding

Ah...should I pull up a different version that is more similar in wording? :)


I find that compassion isn't one of my strong suits, but then again, his death isn't what pleases me. It is the fact that his reign of terror is over and innocents will no longer be hurt by his hand. But whether they arrested him or killed him, I'm just as pleased either way.

I know that my perspective on this may be wrong, and God help me, but that's just how I feel about it.

I think that is a key differentiation to make. If he were incapacitated but unharmed, it would have (virtually) the same result.

[mcgreen311]

I'll have to find it, but somewhere I saw Paul say that we are permitted to rejoice in the fall of the wicked....

I have to find it, but I know i saw it...

Help anyone?

either way, I'm glad he's gone and hope this slows or puts an end to the insurgency in Iraq. God bless the people of Iraq and our troops.:cool:

You used quotes?!:) Actually, I'll go look for the reference.

Hmm...I did find these:

Romans 12:15
Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

Colossians 1:24
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

And the classic:
Philippians 4:4
Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, Rejoice.

That doesn't help you, but it's what I found.

[Grank]

Ah...should I pull up a different version that is more similar in wording? :)




I think that is a key differentiation to make. If he were incapacitated but unharmed, it would have (virtually) the same result.
not the same result. had we had to go in there with a ground force we would have taken more casualties than we did. personally, i'm rejoicing that he's gone. with him out of here, my life expectancy just went up a bit.

[coldcupofjoe]

my life expectancy just went up a bit.

darn! Back to the drawing board...

[bholdj]

I would have loved to have seen his face once he stood before God, (and Darwin's) but yes, I'm afraid someone will take his place. However it is a victory and I am so glad for it.

ummmmm, news flash, darwin was a Christian :D

[woman4life]

I believe Darwin was initially raised Catholic. Beyond that I've seen nothing to demonstrate that he was a Christian except an e-mail that was circulated for a long time and was disputed by his family according to something else I read. I guess God knows. :)

The article about Al Zarqawi made me somewhat saddened that a child was killed. I know it was probably unavoidable, but that really saddened me. I cannot be happy about Al Zarqawi's death per se. It certainly would be much preferable if he were saved and repentant. On the other hand, I do rejoice that he will not be around to direct people to kill others. I rejoice that this is at least a temporary setback for others bent on the same plan. I think the damage that was done that intelligence came from within his own ranks has to affect them as much as his death.

And I can be satisfied that God is just.

--Melanie

[bholdj]

I believe Darwin was initially raised Catholic. Beyond that I've seen nothing to demonstrate that he was a Christian except an e-mail that was circulated for a long time and was disputed by his family according to something else I read. I guess God knows. :)

--Melanie

I hate to hyjack, I know their is some controversey around his faith. I just feel like the Bible was written to save sinners, not give Gods John Hanckock on how He exactly created the universe. Peter says with God, 1 day "is a 1,000 years", perhaps 7 days was indeed 7,000 or so years to create the universe?

I will copy paste this post and create a new thread :D .

[Juice84]

not the same result. had we had to go in there with a ground force we would have taken more casualties than we did. personally, i'm rejoicing that he's gone. with him out of here, my life expectancy just went up a bit.

High Fives for upped life expectancy! Ohh and nothing made me smile more last week than seeing the picture of his mug on cnn. Ohh and kudos on the pigs blood.