The last days..

[1inamillion]

Do you believe we are living in the last days? alot of ppl are saying yes what do you say?

[Sharon]

technically we've been living in the last days since Jesus rose from the earth....

[Evanescence]

Do you believe we are living in the last days? alot of ppl are saying yes what do you say?

666 is Tuesday....:( :( :(

[1inamillion]

technically we've been living in the last days since Jesus rose from the earth....
well the last last days

[Jake]

666 is Tuesday....:( :( :(

Do people realize that God doesn't give a flyin crap about our calender?

[Sharon]

well the last last days


Nobody knows when it's going to come...not even Jesus. Only the Father knows. I prefer not to take time speculating over things like this...we all should be living as if He will come tomorrow

[middletree]

http://www.middletree.net/endtimes.asp

Yes, we probably are, and no, we shouldn't be worried about it.

[Mugirl04]

Nobody knows when it's going to come...not even Jesus. Only the Father knows. I prefer not to take time speculating over things like this...we all should be living as if He will come tomorrow
yeah i agree because the bible says many will tell us we are in the last days but don't be alarmed because no one knows

[1inamillion]

it also say watch and wait! and all that stuff bout wars and rumors of wars what do you thinks goin on in iraq and stuff??

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Sky Falls Down, It tumbles into the sea, Sun goes...........

Sorry. Who cares. As interesting as I find the subject, we won't be here, we'll be watching.;)

[WeaselInYerFoot]

it also say watch and wait! and all that stuff bout wars and rumors of wars what do you thinks goin on in iraq and stuff??

but there were wars 60 years ago! and the civil war, american revolution, napoleon, alexander. Wars wars wars.

Iraq is hardly a war in comparison.

[1inamillion]

Sky Falls Down, It tumbles into the sea, Sun goes...........

Sorry. Who cares. As interesting as I find the subject, we won't be here, we'll be watching.;)
thats true!

[1inamillion]

but there were wars 60 years ago! and the civil war, american revolution, napoleon, alexander. Wars wars wars.

Iraq is hardly a war in comparison.
not jus iraq! iran and kuwait to and isreal i think

[TheBus36(Retired)]

not jus iraq! iran and kuwait to and isreal i think

Great point Beka!!!!!!! It's the unstability of that entire region that leads one to believe. But, just also take a look at the increase in natural disasters such as the large earthquakes, floods, fires, volcanos, etc. around the world.

[middletree]

Sky Falls Down, It tumbles into the sea, Sun goes...........

Sorry. Who cares. As interesting as I find the subject, we won't be here, we'll be watching.;)
Actually, we will be here. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[1inamillion]

Great point Beka!!!!!!! It's the unstability of that entire region that leads one to believe. But, just also take a look at the increase in natural disasters such as the large earthquakes, floods, fires, volcanos, etc. around the world.
i knew i forgot something! thanks Robbie!

[middletree]

but there were wars 60 years ago! and the civil war, american revolution, napoleon, alexander. Wars wars wars.

Iraq is hardly a war in comparison.
I think Iraq is significant in the Last Days, so the fact that there is a war going on there, the fact that the leadership has changed from a clearly demonic man to whatever is in charge now, carries EndTimes significance. It's not scary, but it is interesting.

[1inamillion]

Actually, we will be here. Sorry to burst your bubble.
you may be but i'll be with my lord and savior!

[middletree]

you may be but i'll be with my lord and savior!
Yeah, you keep readin' those Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye books....

[1inamillion]

Yeah, you keep readin' those Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye books....
who?!

[mdeanne]

One sign is supposed to be when they rebuild the temple in Israel.

I just saw a program last week where they were talking about
doing that very thing.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Actually, we will be here. Sorry to burst your bubble.

What!!!!!!!!!! Will not!!!! Did I miss something?

[WeaselInYerFoot]

I think Iraq is significant in the Last Days, so the fact that there is a war going on there, the fact that the leadership has changed from a clearly demonic man to whatever is in charge now, carries EndTimes significance. It's not scary, but it is interesting.

True. But there's been a constant change in the middle-east for centuries. This may simply another wave, or it may not. The area itself will be significant in the Last Days, but who knows if it'll be Iraq by that time. It could be Kurdistan for all we know. The removal or a ruler and access to change is certainly a step forward, but the last two-thousand years have been composed of steps towards prophecy.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

who?!

Hahahahaha.

[1inamillion]

Hahahahaha.
what? who is they?

[Mugirl04]

Yeah, you keep readin' those Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye books....
just because one believes they will not be here during tribulation doesn't mean its because of Tim Lahaye

[middletree]

just because one believes they will not be here during tribulation doesn't mean its because of Tim Lahaye
Yeah, I know. Lindsay started it. Around 1970.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

just because one believes they will not be here during tribulation doesn't mean its because of Tim Lahaye

No, but Mr. LeHaye and Jenkings did a pretty good job with those books. I enjoyed reading them. I obviously missed something, James is letting us hang before he sheds light on this discussion.

[Mugirl04]

No, but Mr. LeHaye and Jenkings did a pretty good job with those books. I enjoyed reading them. I obviously missed something, James is letting us hang before he sheds light on this discussion.
i thought they were pretty accuarted as well

[middletree]

who?!
LaHaye wrote the Left Behind series, and Lindsay wrote a book in 1970 which was called "The Late Great Planet Earth" In it, he outlined a timeline of exactly the time periods he thinks everything is going to occur (the timeline itself is exactly what Jesus said not to do in Matt 24). This book was a best-seller, and was the beginning of an industry of books which have led a lot of Christians to fear the End Times, and to think, mistakenly, that we Christians will not be here during the Tribulation.

[Mugirl04]

Yeah, I know. Lindsay started it. Around 1970.
what? whose lindsay?

[Mugirl04]

LaHaye wrote the Left Behind series, and Lindsay wrote a book in 1970 which was called "The Late Great Planet Earth" In it, he outlined a timeline of exactly the time periods he thinks everything is going to occur (the timeline itself is exactly what Jesus said not to do in Matt 24). This book was a best-seller, and was the beginning of an industry of books which have led a lot of Christians to fear the End Times, and to think, mistakenly, that we Christians will not be here during the Tribulation.
writing timelines and saying how you intreput the end time to be are two different things

[middletree]

writing timelines and saying how you intreput the end time to be are two different things
Yes. He did a lot of things wrong when he created this industry, and you have pointed out 2 of them.

[1inamillion]

oh i've heard of LaHaye but not Lindsay

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Yes. He did a lot of things wrong when he created this industry, and you have pointed out 2 of them.

Okay, wait a second Mr. Jim. I have read revelations over and over, and many times prior to reading the left behind series. Now I enjoyed the books,and in fact, am waiting for tomorrow to get the third in the prequal. I like to read and the enjoyed the prophetic knowledge that these two seem to garner. However, Doesn't Matthew, and Paul both write about those who have fallen asleep rising first and the rest meeting Jesus in the air. I have always interrupted and have been taught that, believers will be gone with Jesus on the Day of the Lord. Now, I'm really confused.

[middletree]

I shouldn't have commented on this at all. Now I'm being argumentative, while getting onto someone on another thread for the same thing.

To answer your question, it is my contention that Christians will be here during the Tribulation period. If you like, we can start something in the Word forum for this.

However, I must warn you that I have just been called to travel for work (back to Sterling Va) and will be working long hours, so I may not be back here for many days.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

I shouldn't have commented on this at all. Now I'm being argumentative, while getting onto someone on another thread for the same thing.

To answer your question, it is my contention that Christians will be here during the Tribulation period. If you like, we can start something in the Word forum for this.

However, I must warn you that I have just been called to travel for work (back to Sterling Va) and will be working long hours, so I may not be back here for many days.

I'm interested in hearing what you have to say, and I don't think you did anything inappropriate here. If you want to discuss over dinner, let me know.

[1inamillion]

i am so confused now

[musicjaytee]

I voted yes, but I am not an apocalypse now believer. I also don't base it on the 'signs', since most of the signs have existed essentially forever (false teachers, rumors of war, etc). I just have had this 'feeling' for a few years now that our generation will see the return. No concrete proof, no idea whatsoever of when....just a feeling.

[middletree]

i am so confused now
Sorry.

[Yippy]

I had to go back 5 pages in the Word forum, but I found this thread:

http://www.thirdday.com/boards/showthread.php?t=83834

When I became a Christian a very long time ago, the only view taught around me was of a pre-trib rapture. I didn't know there was any other thought. But the more I read scripture, the more it didn't sit right with me. (Please know that I'm not saying that I'm more in tune with God than someone who does believe in a pre-trib rapture. If anything, I know that God didn't want me to just take the word of those around me, but wanted me to investigate the Word and other sources). Then I heard other points of view and was amazed that the pre-trib thought came about recently in history. I can't remember exactly when, but I know someone around here does know. I have come to a somewhat loose conclusion that Christians won't escape the "last days" through a "rapture." I believe that the "rapture" and the 2nd Coming of Christ are one and the same. I could be wrong though, so no skewering me. There's a lot of good info in the above thread. Check it out.

[Gandalf]

Yeah, I know. Lindsay started it. Around 1970.
Actually, it was Darby and Scofield in the 19th century. Lindsay was the one who took it to the (overtly) fiction genre. :)

[Yippy]

Actually, it was Darby and Scofield in the 19th century. Lindsay was the one who took it to the (overtly) fiction genre. :)
See, I knew someone here knew. I remember reading it in a thread a few years ago. I had a feeling it was you.:)

[middletree]

Actually, it was Darby and Scofield in the 19th century. Lindsay was the one who took it to the (overtly) fiction genre. :)
Not what I meant. Darby and Scofield did popularize pre-trib doctrine, but Lindsay made it sell; invented the industry.

[bholdj]

Do you believe we are living in the last days? alot of ppl are saying yes what do you say?

to quote magneto

"why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers? :D "

Jesus dosen't know dude, I think its best that we love God and our neighbor more and not get caught up (forgive the pun) in last days talk :cool: .

But that said, its always nice to discuss, especially on days like today :cool:

[kiwisongbird]

mmmmm I think I'll just wait and see what happens :)

and oh, the person who said that God doesn't give a flying c*** about it - um, that kinda offended me really cos in the lower part of the world c*** means the same as s*** and relating God doing a flying one of those is kinda weird to me... :) :) :) said with love and not in a cross manner, just um, well, eeewwwwww.....

[Mugirl04]

I think Iraq is significant in the Last Days, so the fact that there is a war going on there, the fact that the leadership has changed from a clearly demonic man to whatever is in charge now, carries EndTimes significance. It's not scary, but it is interesting.
i agree with ya here

[1nonlyjen]

Actually, we will be here. Sorry to burst your bubble.
but not for the worst of it

[Jake]

mmmmm I think I'll just wait and see what happens :)

and oh, the person who said that God doesn't give a flying c*** about it - um, that kinda offended me really cos in the lower part of the world c*** means the same as s*** and relating God doing a flying one of those is kinda weird to me... :) :) :) said with love and not in a cross manner, just um, well, eeewwwwww.....


Well icrap does mean the same thing as s*** anywhere; just a cleaner version of it. Would the word "poo poo" have made you feel better? But I didn't say God DID one, I just said he doesn't give one about our man made calenders. Either way, I typed it here in the northern part of the world and it's perfectly acceptbale. Not cross, just um, yea.

[kiwisongbird]

Well um, sorry but crap and God in the same sentence just seems really weird that's all.... guess I'm just old and get upset easily... don't like Gees or Sheesh either... but where I come from saying d** or h** aren't really bad like where you come from... guess it's just part of being in God's family from all around the world... in Thailand the worst thing you can call someone is a buffalo!!! Go figure?? :) :):D

[Gandalf]

Not what I meant. Darby and Scofield did popularize pre-trib doctrine, but Lindsay made it sell; invented the industry.
Lindsay definitely did invent the industry and make it sell - good point. Darby and Scofield did more than popularize it though - they invented it out of whole cloth! Not trying to argue, just to give credit where credit is due ;) ... wouldn't want to deny them the credit for inventing and popularizing a new doctrine ...

[Gandalf]

in Thailand the worst thing you can call someone is a buffalo!!! Go figure?? :)
What about a bison? ;)