The cost of war

[mikedevilsfan]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/26/marines.probe.ap/index.html

This is what happens when you go to war.
Michael

[kh294God]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/26/marines.probe.ap/index.html

This is what happens when you go to war.
Michael
actually that could happen at anytime not just doing war....that has nothing to do with the fact we're at war. what about all the marines or service men of ours that has been killed unjustly?

[mikedevilsfan]

actually that could happen at anytime not just doing war....that has nothing to do with the fact we're at war. what about all the marines or service men of ours that has been killed unjustly?

That also is a byproduct of going to war.
Michael

[Mugirl04]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/26/marines.probe.ap/index.html

This is what happens when you go to war.
Michael
That was not even a full story that answer much. It is not what happens when you go to war. People die in war yes, but I hate when people make miltary guys look bad. I have meet many honorable miltary guys, who want to help people.

[kh294God]

That was not even a full story that answer much. It is not what happens when you go to war. People die in war yes, but I hate when people make miltary guys look bad. I have meet many honorable miltary guys, who want to help people.
well said. like i said it had nothing to do with going to war or a by product of going to war. sounds like someone is trying tostir something up ;)

[ObiShawn]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/26/marines.probe.ap/index.html

This is what happens when you go to war.
Michael

http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/terrorism/september_11/911-tower2-2.jpg

This is what happens when you don't go to war.

[kh294God]

http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/terrorism/september_11/911-tower2-2.jpg

This is what happens when you don't go to war.
that image is still heart breaking....it's like people has forgotten

[Howlin' Wolf]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/26/marines.probe.ap/index.html

This is what happens when you go to war.
Michael

more people would have died had saddam been left in power.

[cheewiee]

http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/terrorism/september_11/911-tower2-2.jpg

This is what happens when you don't go to war.

Exactly... We were fighting this war on the morning this pictuer was taken...

[cheewiee]

more people would have died had saddam been left in power.
What's interesting, is Tulip isn't a fan of the Bush administration, or the GOP by ANY Stretch of the imagination...

[Howlin' Wolf]

What's interesting, is Tulip isn't a fan of the Bush administration, or the GOP by ANY Stretch of the imagination...

exactly

but i have spent time in iraq and a lot of time in the middle east, and i'll tell you, the iraq that the media is showing is not the iraq i saw. its not like iraq was peaceful before the war, and its not like thousands were dying. the only difference was the people knew who to fear(the government) and now the enemy is much more vague.

[Mugirl04]

exactly

but i have spent time in iraq and a lot of time in the middle east, and i'll tell you, the iraq that the media is showing is not the iraq i saw. its not like iraq was peaceful before the war, and its not like thousands were dying. the only difference was the people knew who to fear(the government) and now the enemy is much more vague.
good point!

[Grank]

all military people are tools of the corporate man who have been brainwashed into machines that know only death and destruction

[DareDevil]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/26/marines.probe.ap/index.html

This is what happens when you go to war.
Michael
I have already said a few things about this nasty incident and I don't really want to repeat myself. So, here is a link: http://www.thirdday.com/boards/showpost.php?p=1439689&postcount=15

Other than that I would like to say that such incidents have always been a part of any ongoing war. Anybody who cannot see that is naive, imho. I'm not a pacifist though, not at all. Still, war is an expensive thing and the price is not just about money. Now, whether this paticular war is worth the price is an entirely different question. Personally I think that the USA would be well advised to find an honorable way to get out of this soon.

[larryl]

all military people are tools of the corporate man who have been brainwashed into machines that know only death and destruction


excuse me? careful.....there are quite a few active, retired, and former military folks here, and i suspect we all will take issue with that statement.

[bholdj]

all military people are tools of the corporate man who have been brainwashed into machines that know only death and destruction

Mister Grank not have a good cup of tea? Wow, i will wait for the wolves outside

[Jason]

excuse me? careful.....there are quite a few active, retired, and former military folks here, and i suspect we all will take issue with that statement.

He was being sarcastic. He's a military nurse or medic, stationed in Iraq or Kuwait.

[bholdj]

He was being sarcastic. He's a military nurse or medic, stationed in Iraq or Kuwait.

I didn't know he was a medic.

[larryl]

He was being sarcastic. He's a military nurse or medic, stationed in Iraq or Kuwait.


i kind of thought in my head that he was military, but that post moved my blood to the boiling temp........


i am all for sarcasm.....it's just so darn hard to hear ona message board.:D

[Grank]

Mister Grank not have a good cup of tea? Wow, i will wait for the wolves outside
we used to sit in our tents and sip on some green tea when it was a bit colder outside. now that it's 120 everyday we stay away from warm drinks for the most part. for the record though, i am an army medic on the border of iraq. my best friend is an army civil affairs specialist in iraq. it's weird being deployed at the same time like this, but at the same time it's a good thing cuz we're on the same time schedule and we can send each other stuff for free.

yeah, anyway... saying that an incident like this reflects on our country, military or civilian populace and that they should be punished for it by others looking at them in a worse light is about as logical as saying that all military people are tools just doing what the man tells them to do. i'm sure there are a few people on these boards that think it. i'm also pretty sure they wouldn't say it in as many words.

[kiwisongbird]

I feel a bit strange about the photo with the comment - "this is what happens when you don't go to war"... it's weirding me out - I don't think anyone can stop terrorists from doing stuff by invading another country... enlighten me please....

I can still remember seeing those photos and the video clips etc... I don't think the world will ever forget that day - has the war in Iraq stopped terrorism?

Has it stopped the muslim extremists from hating the infidel? Will it acheive that?

Hey Chris (Grank) can you buy Coke in a bag in K? We get all sorts of soft drinks in a plastic bag here - loaded with ice - they are as comforting as a hot chocolate on a cold day!!!!! :) :) :)

[Jesuslove]

more people would have died had saddam been left in power.
Prove it. That's easy to say now!

[Howlin' Wolf]

Prove it. That's easy to say now!

are you serious? have you seen anything from the trial of saddam or any news coverage at the beginning of the war that showed all the mass graves??

But his tactic of imposing his authority by terror has gone far beyond the occasional arrest and execution of opponents. In attempts to suppress the Kurds, for example, he has systematically used chemical weapons. And in putting down a rebellion of Shi'ia in the south he has razed towns to the ground and drained marshland.

i have a vcd of the aftermath of the attack on the Kurds, that i bought in Baghdad. when the chemical gas hit the air, people dropped where they were. thousands upon thousands dead. and those that managed to survive where instantly deformed.

Saddam's internal security regime achieved notoriety for its extreme ruthlessness. In 1982, during a visit to Dujail, Saddam was to address and praise the city's residents for their support and contributions in the Iran conflict, when an assassination attempt was mounted against him. The town of Dujail lies 40 km (25 miles) north of Baghdad; Saddam's security forces in return attacked the city, killing and executing up to 137 of its inhabitants, including a number of children. Around 1,500 townspeople were sent to prison and tortured. The entire town was also punished by having 1,000 square kilometres (250,000 acres) of farmland destroyed; replanting was only permitted 10 years later. The events in Dujail became the subject of criminal charges following Saddam's overthrow in 2003. [5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein

thats just a snipet of this man's vile mathods of maintaining power.

[cheewiee]

Prove it. That's easy to say now!

I don't think you have any right to ask anyone to prove any claims, considering you have made some very outlandish ones w/o offering any yourself.

[Howlin' Wolf]

I don't think you have any right to ask anyone to prove any claims, considering you have made some very outlandish ones w/o offering any yourself.

who in the heck defends saddam hussein???

i also have vcd's from saddam's palaces that were stolen when the rioting began. they show him throwing people off of buildngs, blind folding them and then sticking dynamite in their shirt pocket. i heard countless stories. and the funny thing was, the whole time i was in iraq, i was around christians, kurds, sunnis, and shi'as, and not one person i met out of the hundreds didnt support the overthrow of saddam

[cheewiee]

who in the heck defends saddam hussein???

Only somone with an ardant hatred for George W. I suppose...

[Jesuslove]

I don't think you have any right to ask anyone to prove any claims, considering you have made some very outlandish ones w/o offering any yourself.
yes I do. people ask me for proof all the time.

[Jesuslove]

who in the heck defends saddam hussein???

i also have vcd's from saddam's palaces that were stolen when the rioting began. they show him throwing people off of buildngs, blind folding them and then sticking dynamite in their shirt pocket. i heard countless stories. and the funny thing was, the whole time i was in iraq, i was around christians, kurds, sunnis, and shi'as, and not one person i met out of the hundreds didnt support the overthrow of saddam
I'm not defending Saddam. I'm saying we had no right to invade another nation. How would you feel if the US was invaded by a foreign country?

[cheewiee]

I'm not defending Saddam. I'm saying we had no right to invade another nation. How would you feel if the US was invaded by a foreign country?

I am pretty sure that if that countries reasoning for invading had the sole purpose of overthrowing Bush, and the GOP controlled congress, you would be pretty thankful...

[Howlin' Wolf]

I'm not defending Saddam. I'm saying we had no right to invade another nation. How would you feel if the US was invaded by a foreign country?

how would i feel? i would go on a about my business just as every iraqi is doing

i think you should read and digest romans 13.

[Jesuslove]

how would i feel? i would go on a about my business just as every iraqi is doing

i think you should read and digest romans 13.
I think you should watch the news.

[Howlin' Wolf]

I think you should watch the news.

ha ha ha

nice one

ive been to iraq. i am constant contact with iraqis. the news is the last thing i need to watch.

what a waste

[kh294God]

I think you should watch the news.
why watch the news? it only shows the horrible images that they want you to see. and half the time they only report half of the truth....i watch the news to see the local weather (which here in louisiana it is hardly right) and the sports.

[cheewiee]

why watch the news? it only shows the horrible images that they want you to see. and half the time they only report half of the truth....i watch the news to see the local weather (which here in louisiana it is hardly right) and the sports.

The news is good for Local weather, sports, traffic... and happenings around town..

OH yea it's also usefull around sweeps time.. they tell you what resturants to aviod because of failing inspections... :D

[Grank]

Hey Chris (Grank) can you buy Coke in a bag in K? We get all sorts of soft drinks in a plastic bag here - loaded with ice - they are as comforting as a hot chocolate on a cold day!!!!! :) :) :)
no, i can't say that i've seen any drinks in a bag. i must say i laughed a little when you asked this. my buddy sit'n here beside me said that they have milk in a bag in canada. now i'm all intrigued and such. i must look into drinking out of a bag. do you have soap on a rope?



proof that saddam would have killed more than we have? um... well you'd prolly have to look at the avg amount of people saddam killed or had killed a year to figure that out. i, personally, don't have that information but it is common knowledge that he killed, raped and tourtured many people to achieve his goals. I'm think'n he killed more of his civilians per day than we are currently doing. why would you think that the military has killed more people than saddam woudl have? were you ever wronged by a military man in your youth and perhaps that is why you hold this intense grudge?

[kh294God]

The news is good for Local weather, sports, traffic... and happenings around town..

OH yea it's also usefull around sweeps time.. they tell you what resturants to aviod because of failing inspections... :D
hey i never thought about that..what do you know another reason to watch news;)

[ObiShawn]

I feel a bit strange about the photo with the comment - "this is what happens when you don't go to war"... it's weirding me out - I don't think anyone can stop terrorists from doing stuff by invading another country... enlighten me please....Would you rather us sit back and let them attack us again? Oh yeah, that's right, you don't live in America.

I can still remember seeing those photos and the video clips etc... I don't think the world will ever forget that day - has the war in Iraq stopped terrorism?I think the fact that we haven't been hit again has a little something to say about that.


Has it stopped the muslim extremists from hating the infidel? That isn't the purpose. The purpose is protecting our way of life.

[ObiShawn]

i think you should read and digest romans 13.I think you should watch the news. You choose the news over the Word of God? wow. So maybe you were not joking when you told Mikedevilsfan that his post was the gospel . . . .

[Grank]

That isn't the purpose. The purpose is protecting our way of life.
hooah


man i hate saying that, but it fits there

[Mugirl04]

why watch the news? it only shows the horrible images that they want you to see. and half the time they only report half of the truth....i watch the news to see the local weather (which here in louisiana it is hardly right) and the sports.
Amen! For real the news is just propoganda half the time

[Howlin' Wolf]

You choose the news over the Word of God? wow. So maybe you were not joking when you told Mikedevilsfan that his post was the gospel . . . .

i was thinking the same thing. why even indulge those two? they are utterly clueless about everything they type.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

I'm not defending Saddam. I'm saying we had no right to invade another nation. How would you feel if the US was invaded by a foreign country?

How would you feel about said foreign country if Saddam ruled the US?

And we can also include his two dispecable sons.

[bholdj]

i was thinking the same thing. why even indulge those two? they are utterly clueless about everything they type.

If this thread is still up tommorrow, I move for this thread to be closed because of both of these jokers. They claim to be patriots when all they do is trash their country online.

[kiwisongbird]

Obishawn, I don't live in America and I'm not American - but I do live in a country where there is fighting involving Muslims all the time, I also live in a country where we have had terrorist attacks at airports and in shopping malls...sometimes it worries me, mostly I just don't think about it... we haven't had stuff happen up here in the North but I have to tell you when the choir I sing in goes to the American Embassy to sing on the 4th July well, I don't go cos I don't feel that it's a safe thing to do.

I'm from New Zealand and I do admit that culturally I am different from an American - we are not patriotic people, so sometimes it's really difficult for me to understand the patriotism of the Americans...our country is nuclear free so American ships are not even allowed in our harbours if they are nuclear powered... I read these threads and endeavour to learn more about people in my family - cos first and foremost I am a citizen of the Kingdom of God.

What happens in America affects all western nations - many people here just presume I am American because I look like one. I smile and tell them I am a New Zealander (I guess there's a bit of national pride there eh?)

The comment with the photo just weirded me out that's all. I think it's great that there have been no more attacks on America - that's awesome. I hope that continues to be the case. Definitely makes me happy. :) :) :) :)

Please forgive me if I come across as dumb sometimes - I'm a heart person not a head person and I'm not American - but please don't ignore me or 'pooh pooh' me just cos I'm a New Zealander - what you guys do affects me :) :)

[TheBus36(Retired)]

ha ha ha

nice one

ive been to iraq. i am constant contact with iraqis. the news is the last thing i need to watch.

what a waste


Well said. Thank you.

[TheBus36(Retired)]

I am pretty sure that if that countries reasoning for invading had the sole purpose of overthrowing Bush, and the GOP controlled congress, you would be pretty thankful...

Cheewiee, I'm pretty sure you hit the nail on the preverbial head.

[Debbie]

excuse me? careful.....there are quite a few active, retired, and former military folks here, and i suspect we all will take issue with that statement.

If not mistaken, Grank is in the military. Not really sure why he makes this statement :confused:

[TheBus36(Retired)]

If not mistaken, Grank is in the military. Not really sure why he makes this statement :confused:

Chris made this statement because he's Chris. It's just his humor. I would be willing to bet anything, he meant nothing by it other than to be funny.

[Debbie]

Chris made this statement because he's Chris. It's just his humor. I would be willing to bet anything, he meant nothing by it other than to be funny.

Yep, should have read the entire thread, I should have known you guys/gals were on it :p :p

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Yep, should have read the entire thread, I should have known you guys/gals were on it :p :p

Well, at least we're consistant, huh? Why do you think you love us:rolleyes: :p

Based upon that rant the other day, aren't you proud of me?

[Debbie]

Based upon that rant the other day, aren't you proud of me?

Yes Robby, I love it when you land :p :p

[TheBus36(Retired)]

Yes Robby, I love it when you land :p :p


HAHAHAHAHAHA, especially on all fours!!!!!!!!!;)