View Full Version : Iran Leader: Holocaust a myth
Psalm25Gomer
12-14-2005, 11:02 AM
Look who feels like he can stir up some stink now....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.israel/index.html
Ehud Elijah
12-14-2005, 11:14 AM
Perhaps he (Iran's president) is forgetting what the Israeli's did at Osiraq, or the War for Independence, or the Six Day War, or the Yom Kippur War.
middletree
12-14-2005, 12:06 PM
Perhaps he is forgetting what the Israeli's did at Osiraq, or the War for Independence, or the Six Day War, or the Yom Kippur War.
Oh please. The 6 Day war isn't a valid point, because Israel was attacked by Egypt. In fact, none of the events described above would have occurred had the Arab/Muslim nations just let Israel be.
But back to the original point: Are you saying that because you don't agree with the actions of Israel in the above wars that the Holocaust didn't happen? Or are you saying it should have happened?
steffen
12-14-2005, 12:18 PM
Okaaaay... :rolleyes:
Weird. In a tragic sense
ibanez_player
12-14-2005, 12:27 PM
yeh, my dad told me about this. it's just sad. how can this guy say that??!?!
DareDevil
12-14-2005, 12:44 PM
I read an interesting comment from an expert. He argued that experience tells Iran that the west tends to be more "coperative" when it is threatened a little bit. If that's true then I would not be too surprised if somebody should come up with a "good will" offer soon.
Ehud Elijah
12-14-2005, 02:39 PM
Oh please. The 6 Day war isn't a valid point, because Israel was attacked by Egypt. In fact, none of the events described above would have occurred had the Arab/Muslim nations just let Israel be.
But back to the original point: Are you saying that because you don't agree with the actions of Israel in the above wars that the Holocaust didn't happen? Or are you saying it should have happened?
No. I agree with Israel's actions, and I'll support their attack on a nuclear Iran if it comes to that. I'm saying that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is lining up to get his butt kicked. It seems that some Arab leaders seem to have forgotten what a terrible mistake it has been to pick a fight with Israel. If Iran does not relent in their pursuit of nuclear power, then Israel WILL end the pursuit for them. They have to do so in order to survive.
No one can say it better than Bob Dylan in his song "Neighborhood Bully", a response to a journalist who called Israel a neighborhood bully..
Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.
He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.
What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.
What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.
middletree
12-14-2005, 02:58 PM
No. I agree with Israel's actions, and I'll support their attack on a nuclear Iran if it comes to that. I'm saying that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is lining up to get his butt kicked.
Wow. I completely misunderstood your post. My apologies.
RevZeek
12-14-2005, 03:09 PM
EE, I had never heard that song before but it is GREAT!
Ehud Elijah
12-14-2005, 04:39 PM
Wow. I completely misunderstood your post. My apologies.
No problem bro.
RevZeek, only Bob Dylan could write something like that. It's awesome.
ICarlson99
12-14-2005, 04:39 PM
We suddenly have a new contender for Kim Jung-Il's title of "most dangerous man in the world".
I imagine he'll be nominated for a Nobel Prize imminently :rolleyes:
Nilknarf
12-15-2005, 08:22 PM
WOW, I used to rock out to that song but could never understand Dylan's lyrics, as he sung them... Thanks for printing them!
Frank
Pouye
12-17-2005, 08:09 PM
If you talk to Iranians, they believe they have just as much a right to have nuclear weapons as the United States (the Big Satan) does. They say that it is wrong to think that they would be inherently any less responsible with nuclear weapons than the USA or Russia.
We all know that Iran supports terrorist networks (fact), and the USA and other countries are worried that nukes will make it into the hands of terrorists if Iran has those capabilities. That's the problem.
They do have one fact right: They say that the USA is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons of mass destruction on innocent civilians. Over 170,000 men, women and children (non-military civilians) have died because of the atom bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Rock
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