Americans reject evolution

[rossid]

AOL article (http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=2005102410 0409990019&ncid=NWS00010000000001)

Any thoughts?

[mcgreen311]

I have nothing astoundingly intelligent to add, but 51% seems a bit high to me. It only adds up to 76%, though. I'm no statistician, but where did the other 24% go? Am I missing something?

[rossid]

51% say God created humans in their present form

Three in ten(30%) say that while humans evolved God guided the process

15% say humans evolved and God was not involved

Total - 96%

I think you are reading it like I was and adding ten(rather than 30) to 15, and adding that 25 to 51 to get 76.

:confused:

[mcgreen311]

Oh, gotcha. How are they gonna switch it up on us like that?
:)

[Thomas508]

Those who believe in evolution, whether guided by God or not, overwhelmingly think it is possible to believe in both God and evolution – 90 percent say this. However, people who believe God created humans in their present form are more divided: 48 percent think it possible to believe in both God and evolution, but the same number disagrees.
That doesn't make any sense to me if you belive God created humans in their present form how can 48% of those people belive its possible to belive in both God and evolution?

Billy T

[mcgreen311]

That doesn't make any sense to me if you belive God created humans in their present form how can 48% of those people belive its possible to belive in both God and evolution?

Billy T

Theistic evolution...God started the process and let it work its "natural" course. There's also a difference between macro and micro evolution which the article didn't elaborate on. It could be that some in the survey who believe in God and evolution could be refering to evolution in general and not specifically to the origin of human beings.

I think it would also depend on how literally you take the Bible. It says "God created..." but theistic evolutionists would interpret the creation as a process in different eras rather than days. (correct me anyone if I'm wrong :) )

There's actually a message board that sometimes turns up in my searches that deals with this. I haven't been through all of it, but there are some good discussions.
http://www.evcforum.net/

The End

ETA: I see what you're saying now (that'll learn me to read)...The two would seem to be mutually exclusive. Maybe a typo on aol's part?

[SirMax]

I am currently teaching the youth about this...I'll be printing this out to show them. We are studying Charles Colson's "How now shall we live?". It's a great study!

I take offense to one thing in particular though....

"Americans most likely to believe in only evolution are liberals (36 percent), those who rarely or never attend religious services (25 percent), and those with a college degree or higher (24 percent).

White evangelicals (77 percent), weekly churchgoers (74 percent) and conservatives (64 percent), are mostly likely to say God created humans in their present form"

okay I know it says "most likely" but I'm college educated and I'm a white evangelical...this makes us look stupid....where does it say that because I believe in God and that His Word is ALL true that I'm an idiot? We have just let our education system poison the minds of people in the name of "science" that is really man's religion being shoved down our throats.

People that believe in naturalism (the idea that nature is all that exists and life arose from a chance collision of atoms) will not allow the thoughts of a creator of any kind so they accept anything regardless of whether there is real proof or not.

This is my favorite quote from the book I mentioned above. "In every human being is a deep, ongoing search for meaning-part of the image of God in our very nature. Even if we run from God, the longing remains. Everyone worships some kind of god. Everyone believes in some kind of deity-even if that deity is an impersonal substance such as matter, energy or nature. That is why the Bible preaches against idolatry, not atheism. Naturalism may parade as science, stating facts and figures, but it is a religion."

And how can you believe in both? Either God made us in His image when he formed Adam and Eve or He did not. Okay if the FIRST 2 chapters of the Bible are not true then why in the heck would I believe the rest of it? Man is God's ultimate creation for which He sent His Son Jesus to die for and we have cheapened that to say that we come from lower forms of creation and evolved into what we are...I am made in God's image and until I die I will be in awe of that fact.

Thanks for the article...it will help me teach tonight!

[JCF]

Cool Wendy. I just finished "How Now Shall We Live" back in the summer and I'm now going over my favorite chapters to prepare for a leading a study sometime in the spring. I'm also reading "The Case for Creation" by Strobel to get ready.

How do you like the study guide that goes with HNSWL?

[JCF]

oh.....can't be that civil to wendyloser.....

**SMACK**

[SirMax]

Cool Wendy. I just finished "How Now Shall We Live" back in the summer and I'm now going over my favorite chapters to prepare for a leading a study sometime in the spring. I'm also reading "The Case for Creation" by Strobel to get ready.

How do you like the study guide that goes with HNSWL?


are you talking about the student guide? I like it...I don't use the leader guide at all....we have had some really great discussions in my group. They usually just sit there and I do must of the talking. This topic has really impacted them.

oh.....can't be that civil to wendyloser.....

**SMACK**

you just WISH you were as cool as I am and that you could hang out with me more often :p

[fiddlefool]

i believe in creation.
i do not believe that we are descendents of "less advanced and less intelligent" life forms.

i do believe in "adaptations", adjusting

example- a certian peoples (cant remember what country- but i saw a movie about it in spanish class) in south america live high up highest lake in the world... up in the mountains. when they first migrated up there... they werent adjusted to a high altitude. it has taken them 3 generations to change, "adapt" or "adjust" to their surroundings.

but i believe that all of this is the work of God's hand, done by God

[prayercloth sis]

Evolution is a lie from Satan to decieve folks into believing a lie and be damned...just my personal thoughts..

the first time I heard this and saw a poster of a monkey evolving into a man...I tore the poster up and left the school

...thank God my children have enough intelligence to know that there is a God and he is the one and only creator

..and he created man in his image

...and created the animals separately which Adam named

...can't wait for judgement day...lot of folks chins going to hit the ground.

Rhonie

[Mugirl04]

hey,
So my sunday school is totally going through all the scientific evidence that supports creation. There is so much I mean there is more evidence that supports creation than evolution. Although classes do not teach this, I believe that Creation should be taught in Schools. I am a college student studing Chemistry. You can truly use the Bible as a scientific textbook. It is fawlless. It just goest to show the verse in Romans that says that creation points to God and when you look around you cannot denial God. He has give us evidence of his exists.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

I don't believe Creation should be tought in public schools, simpyl because I don't believe that it's the government's responsability to teach the public about God. The problem with teaching Creationism in plublic school is that it alienates those who don't either 1 Believe in God, or 2. Believe in our particular God, just like Crationists are presently alienated.

That being said, its counterpart is certainly not a viable option. Teaching evolution without the emphasis of it being a theory, and weak one at that, is just as wrong. If it were up to me, evolution would not be tought. If so, it would include its flaws, and improbabilities and the section would end with the words "Take your pick".


Edited for grammar

[Mugirl04]

I believe that Intelligent design is scientifically supported. Therefore it is a scientific theory and should be taught. I do not believe evolution should be taught w/o intelligent design because it only shows one theory. Schools show evolution as fact, when darwin himself said that this was just a theory and he couldn't explain everything. If you read Darwin he says that the Human Eye is perfect he couldn't see how it evolved from anything. This is not taught, only wrong facts are taught. In a scientific lecture you should be given all theories, not some theory created a hundred years ago, when science was not as advance as it is now. Many scientist believe in Intelligent design and many more believe in a true seven day creation. Yes it is a christian job to teach the gospel, but a true education should teach Intelligent design. There is more evidence supporting Intelligent desin than, evolution, but not many people know this.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

Speaking of... (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9967813/)

I find it funny that simply because Kansas is now allowing teachers to show criticism towards evolution, they're suddenly not teaching science anymore. :rolleyes:

[Mugirl04]

I think that is sad that if you don't teach evolution as the truth you are look down upon