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R. Smith
10-21-2005, 01:49 PM
...go after & date jurks??? I ask 'cause I'm a single guy, and nice guy's finish last. I work with a young lady, lets call her Billy. And she is dating the biggest jurk in town, no one can figer out why. She is a nice, quiet, pretty young lady. She can totally do better than him...
-R- :confused:
RevZeek
10-21-2005, 02:00 PM
My friend, I have asked myself that question for many years...if you figure out an answer let me know!
I have been in that same situation and simply decided that I didn't have time for all of that. I quit looking for a hot girlfriend and started looking for a godly woman who I could share my life with. I think God may have led me to the right one...only time will tell.
AshleeDru
10-21-2005, 02:16 PM
...go after & date jurks??? I ask 'cause I'm a single guy, and nice guy's finish last. I work with a young lady, lets call her Billy. And she is dating the biggest jurk in town, no one can figer out why. She is a nice, quiet, pretty young lady. She can totally do better than him...
-R- :confused:
I don't know. If I was a guy, I would be frustrated too. :rolleyes: But, don't worry, if this girl is as cool as you say she is, she'll realize what she's doing and dump the jerk.
WeaselInYerFoot
10-21-2005, 02:42 PM
There can be multiple reasons! I don't believe I have all the answers to the lady's actions (or answers to much of anything really), but here's a thought about some women comprised of if-then statements:
If she's a control freak, then she wants to change him.
If she likes thrills, then she asumes this guy can provide.
If she thinks that she can win over anyone and this guy was a jerk at first, then she sees him as a challenge.
If she sees herself as helpless and needs taking care of, then she is looking for security in someone she misspercieves as a "do it all" type of guy.
If she sees herself as worthless, then she thinks she doesn't deserve better.
Many women like jerks, not as a commitment type of thing, but they are attracted. Funny thing is most will never admit it. Oh, and most of them also don't like to be put in a box, so I will stop right now before I get myself into more trouble :D
silly4HIM
10-21-2005, 04:01 PM
I think some women believe they deserve a jerk rather than a nice guy because they don't value themselves. Some jerks are attracted to nice women because they are looking for a caretaker or someone to control.
WeaselInYerFoot
10-21-2005, 04:08 PM
I've read some article that talks about specific kinds of relationships and it was pretty interesting. They explained that guys who look for delicate "I need your help" kind of women are usually guys that have a hard time trusting someone and would rather take control and make sure everything goes their way. They also talked about how some women preffer those types of guys because of either insecurity, or becuase they grew up without a father (or with a non-fatherly father) and are actually looking for a father figure. That idea also applies to girls looking for older guys.
Kinda creepy, and I still don't know much about it but it's still interesting.
shelleybeansMAN
10-21-2005, 05:14 PM
If her name is Billy, maybe all she can find are jerks ;)
MusicianaryMary
10-21-2005, 08:18 PM
I can tell you from my own experiences.
Guys who are jerks are bold enough to pursue!
I don't mean to make my Christian brother's feel bad on these boards but "nice guys" I have found to be too afraid to chase after a girl, and so get left in the dust. I have a friend who is quite the gentleman and it seriously takes him 8 weeks to make up his mind to ask a girl out. My own boyfriend almost lost me to a jerk, because the jerk was very forceful, and READY to commit to me, and I liked that. Tim wasn't ready at the time to commit to me, for many reasons, but in that moment, it was very tempting for me to go with the jerk. Despite all the femenist views in our society today, girls do like guys who are strong leaders, even if they are leading by taking advantage of the girl.
I have been shocked at the responses of my peers towards the protective nature I have towards my boyfriend. It seems today that standing up for what you want and cherish is frowned upon. It makes you "not a nice person". To me, that's a load of crap. I was 25 and had my first date with a Christian this year. It was my first because it was the first time that a Christian asked me out. He's my boyfriend now, and kudos to him for being bold enough to buy my a milkshake. It must be balanced of course, but let me just encourage my Christian brothers to be bold in pursuit of the girls that you feel are worth pursuing. It will take you a lot farther!
Jason
10-21-2005, 09:22 PM
Nice guys often come across as weak and lacking confidence.
My advice to the Christian guys here is to spend more time becoming Mr. Right than trying to find Miss Right.
Dig into the Word to discover what a godly man is to be like. Pray that God would mold you into His image. Find another brother to act as an accountability partner. Be confident in who you are as a child of God.
SmileyFreak1981
10-21-2005, 10:00 PM
I am one of those gals who finds herself attracted to the "bad boy" because they are exciting...but, with that being said, I wouldn't date one, because that would be TROUBLE. I've watched too many of my friends fall for the jerk, and get hurt. I don't want to go there.
And I would have to agree, but I will put it a little differently, girls want to be chased. (I do... ;) I will admit it. ) If you really, really feel like God wants you to be with a girl, you are going to have to take a risk, and persue her --- but be Godly about it! And take it easy, and spend a lot of time in prayer.
sandie
10-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Nice guys often come across as weak and lacking confidence.
My advice to the Christian guys here is to spend more time becoming Mr. Right than trying to find Miss Right.
Dig into the Word to discover what a godly man is to be like. Pray that God would mold you into His image. Find another brother to act as an accountability partner. Be confident in who you are as a child of God.
Jason: Your advice is spot on and applies to Christian ladies too! :)
We each need to become a reflection of our precious Saviour, and to be confident people, not because of who we are, what we look like or the skills we have, but because we are secure in the knowledge that to God we are of infinite value.
Sandra.
Mrs. Radu Sarbu
10-22-2005, 12:52 AM
idk
roush2
10-22-2005, 12:55 AM
ya know...it's taken me a long time to realize this..but try not to worry about it. Seriously...just act like yourself..act like a good Christian..be a great friend..don't worry about getting that certain girl...and if she isn't attracted to you for who you always are..then you really didn't need her as much as you thought. The girl should like you regardless if you "chase" her or not. Most importantly...pray about it.
-Matt
prayercloth sis
10-22-2005, 12:59 PM
Speaking from experience..I never knew who I would be attracted too.
Or why..but usually they had a little "bad guy" personality...just like living on the edge or getting a little wild every once in a while.
But when I did marry...I married the only guy that would attend church with me and we have been married for 18 years! All glory to God...
He was a wild one, but had a sincere heart....God changed us both...
WE are not perfect...and we both still act a little wild....guess that's why we're pentecostal...needed a wild church to attend...but ....
my point is this..only God knows who he has for us..the perfect mate.....
look for her in church and you will do well with the leading of the Lord....
God bless...and keep your head up..
it's not about you finding her..but the Lord sending her when it is the right time....
please do not make the mistakes I made by looking for yourself and having alot of heartache and excess baggage...let God send her and busy yourself with working for him until she comes on the scene...
praying for you...
and for the Lord to send you the right girl of your dreams...he does give you the desires of your heart!!!
Rhonie
Grank
10-22-2005, 01:12 PM
...go after & date jurks??? I ask 'cause I'm a single guy, and nice guy's finish last. I work with a young lady, lets call her Billy. And she is dating the biggest jurk in town, no one can figer out why. She is a nice, quiet, pretty young lady. She can totally do better than him...
-R- :confused:
maybe she likes guys who can spell...
Seriously though, a lot of people see dating, especially at a young age a game. With that in mind, what would rather play, a football game against somebody half your size, speed and strength or somebody who is a little better than you? Also, for some reason girls have this romantic idea in their head that they will be the one who can change him. They don't want a guy who's already packaged up and ready to go. They'd rather have a guy who's a challange. See what I'm say'n? Besides, I find that most people who aren't jerks at all, at least by most peoples standards, are boring. "Jerks" don't finish at the top and "nice" guys don't finish at the top. It's the well rounded individual who knows when to act like a jerk when he has to but is still nice about it that wins. You just have to know when it's appropriate and always be honest.
Oh yeah, by the way, good luck with Billy... can I call her Cindy, less guys use the name Cindy. Although I went to school with a really hot girl named Billy, but she got kinda fat.
R. Smith
10-22-2005, 05:06 PM
ok -
Weasel in yer - from what I know of her, she isn't a control freak. She is like this quiet, nice person...who works well with others.
Shelley - Lol, her real name isn't Billy, I just didn't want to use her real name.
roush2 - I try not to worry about it, but I do like my co-workers. I'm not attracted to her, but I see her and think...Man she can do better!!!
Grank - Tee hee, I know I don't spell that good (or well). :D Hopefully the *new* 3D message boards will have a spell check.
-R- :D
Oh yea, Grank. I do have a friend named Cindy, and see seems to like me. But the shy guy I am, I haven't had the guts to ask her out or anything. But Cindy & i have held hands once... :)
Grank
10-23-2005, 02:16 PM
dude, if you held hands it's all good. just see if she wants to watch a movie or go grab something to eat... maybe just go for a walk together... the options are limitless my friend. Just go for it.
Gandalf
10-24-2005, 04:04 PM
I think Mary's view is pretty much right on. It's not that women are attracted to jerks because they're jerks, but because they're assertive and they actually take action. They may really want the guy to also be nice, gentlemanly, etc. But, that's not what has bearing on whether they're attracted to them, and regardless of attraction, if you never ask her out, she never has a chance to respond.
R. Smith
10-24-2005, 04:38 PM
My friends who have gotten married, have told me it was Gods hand that brought them together. So, I've been praying 4 a wife.
My gal pal Cindy is a neat person...pretty. But I'm more attracted to her willingness to worship God; and...I donno. Its hard to explain.
-R-
WeaselInYerFoot
10-25-2005, 09:44 AM
My friends who have gotten married, have told me it was Gods hand that brought them together...
-R-
From what I've seen, couples always say that! But they only say it after they're married. :D
Little Diva
10-25-2005, 10:07 AM
Ok this will make me look slightly bad but in all honesty i used to go for the total "bad boy" they have this quality which attracts a gal its the flair to live dangerously and on the edge and believe me it get you in a whole lot of trouble with a capital T.
At the start of the year i gave up "looking" for the guy God had for me and just sat back and let God take control. There was this guy I liked but I did nothing about it apart from pray. He went to Canada in May and after he left i missed him far too much (much more than you would a friend), we kept in touch via e-mail. Well I just couldn't take it any more so I told him how I felt, and he actually felt the same. Now we talk on the phone 1-2 times a week and yes we are going to be together when he gets home in 3 weeks!!! God has brought us together and I'm praying that its forever.
Never settle for second best only settle for God's best because nothing else will do.
jedi_amy
10-25-2005, 11:02 AM
Amen, Diva. I totally agree.
And, by the way....I definitely DON'T go for the jerk type. I'm usually pretty good at reading people, and I see right through their "tough guy" act. I find it extremely annoying when guys are jerks/egotistical, and I refuse to date a guy like that.
R. Smith
10-25-2005, 06:13 PM
...well, 4 me...I guess what it comes down to is...I'll never understand the Ladies. And maybe that's why i'm a single man.
-R- :confused:
Grank
10-26-2005, 07:00 AM
...well, 4 me...I guess what it comes down to is...I'll never understand the Ladies. And maybe that's why i'm a single man.
-R- :confused:
The ladies don't even understand the ladies... don't feel bad. If you understood them then they wouldn't be as appealing.
rossid
10-26-2005, 09:48 AM
Many of us are blessed with godly boyfriends/girlfriends, husbands/wives, and if it is God's will your blessing will come soon.
Pouye
10-28-2005, 05:28 PM
Girls like guys who are ALIVE. They like leadership qualities, energy, that enticing glint in those masculine eyes that whispers in a deep voice, "Come on... let's go on an amazing adventure together... share life with me!"
Boldness, courage, strength, mystery, humor, wit... girls like all of that stuff because they tend to like the "best" part of MEN. Unfortunatley, with all that testosterone, men who are strong in these positive areas are often "weak" in the areas of self-control, temper, vision, commitment, honesty, loyalty.
Might I recommend our favorite moderator, Gandalf (Brian). He's a well rounded guy with a good head on his shoulders and a nice car.
Rock ;)
shadowofangels
10-28-2005, 05:35 PM
I think some women believe they deserve a jerk rather than a nice guy because they don't value themselves.
speaking as a girl, i think this is definitely a huge part of it. personally i know so many guys. some are just the best guys ever, and some are real jerks. to be honest, i've found that the really nice guys are really quiet and tend to avoid me (not saying that this is what you are doing), and the jerks are most normally flirts so they hang around the girls all the time. girls want desparately to be accepted. they'll hang around with any guy that'll give them the time of day if they have no one else. so ya. just hang out with girls, and they [should] hang with you back.... hope this helps!!
gratefull gomer
10-28-2005, 05:36 PM
Girls like guys who are ALIVE. They like leadership qualities, energy, that enticing glint in those masculine eyes that whispers in a deep voice, "Come on... let's go on an amazing adventure together... share life with me!"
Boldness, courage, strength, mystery, humor, wit... girls like all of that stuff because they tend to like the "best" part of MEN. Unfortunatley, with all that testosterone, men who are strong in these positive areas are often "weak" in the areas of self-control, temper, vision, commitment, honesty, loyalty.
How perfectly spoken!
I wanted someone with a stronger personality than me (& that's saying something). I DID NOT want to be the dad and mom in my house like I grew up in and I wanted someone who would tell me when I was screwing up, not let me walk all over them. I DON'T like controlling men, but I have a tendency to be controlling and wanted someone to counterbalance that! Thank God! He sent me my husband who treated me like a little sister to begin with before we dated. like picking on me..., but being a gentleman for all that. Good Luck! Some of us need what I call "anvil therapy"! It takes an anvil falling on our head to figure out whassup! How wonderful to only have to listen for the still, small voice instead!
Grank
10-29-2005, 03:47 PM
...men who are strong in these positive areas are often "weak" in the areas of... vision...
Rock ;)
well i must admit... i do wear glasses.
R. Smith
10-29-2005, 04:38 PM
Pouye - I am a quiet guy (shy), but I do have leadership qualities. I'm a worship leader, and the head youth leader @ my home Church.
I must admit, around beautiful Ladies...I tend to be stand offish. Unlless they are outgoing, and go up to shy guys like me. And @ times, I can be a jurk. :) I wonder if I tell my gal pals that...maybe they would want to go out for a date...lol
-R- :p
Pouye
10-30-2005, 12:51 PM
Pouye - I am a quiet guy (shy), but I do have leadership qualities. I'm a worship leader, and the head youth leader @ my home Church.
I must admit, around beautiful Ladies...I tend to be stand offish. Unlless they are outgoing, and go up to shy guys like me. And @ times, I can be a jurk. :) I wonder if I tell my gal pals that...maybe they would want to go out for a date...lol
-R- :p
I was a "shy guy", too... and I found myself in leadership positions, as well (leading youth, worship team, drama director, etc.). I never dated... never. I made a vow to God not to date, starting at age 13. I basically told God to bring my future wife to me through friendship -- making it clear to me that she was to be my wife and clear to her that I was to be her husband WITHOUT dating. In other words, I was asking God to bring a woman into my life in a natural way without me having to have my radar on seeking a mate.
I was 22 when I met Wendy. She was told by God the day she first saw me that I was to be her husband (in the registration line at the university we were both registering to attent). How's that for unfair! (And no, I don't think God always works this way...) She treated me as a friend and did not pursue a dating relationship, simply because she was "testing" the voice of the Lord to see if it was really God or just her own imagination. I unknowingly "passed" every "fleece" she laid out there. I enjoyed her friendship and I was attracted to her... but I did not pursue her until the last day when we were to part (she was going to stay on at school, and I was leaving to go home and go back to work). But that is another story.
The only woman I have ever kissed is now my wife. We were virgins when we married because God promised her that He would show her who her mate would be when He was ready. She was 21, I was 22 when we met. Neither of us had ever dated. We were both tempted to take shortcuts and get involved in relationships before we met.
Rock
Pouye
10-30-2005, 01:23 PM
Most (if not all) of us have a great desire for a mate when we are single. However, even in this, we must trust God. He might not have plans for you to get married... ever. Can you accept this?
God surprised me with a beautiful wife... but God needed to bring me to the place where I put this desire for a mate into His hands and leave it there. I've met many godly men and women who have never married. Many of them serve the Lord with all of their hearts every day until they die... giving up marriage for the sake of God's calling on their lives. I have a deep respect for those who are led by God into a life of celibacy and serve their Creator wholeheartedly and with amazing loyalty.
Paul promised all who are married two things: That they will have trouble, and that their loyalties will be divided.
Rock
ps. As far as girls going after jerks, that's between them and God. Let your heart be for God, and allow Him to lead you.
R. Smith
10-30-2005, 07:13 PM
I've prayed about it, and prayed...& prayed. I'm @ the point, where I'm not looking anymore. If it was going to happen, it would have happened already.
My feeling is, Christ will come back before I meet my wife (if I am to marry).
So, I give up...
-R-
coldcupofjoe
10-31-2005, 12:28 AM
uhm... I tried that and it didnt work as planned STUPID PERFECT GIRL-FRIEND SCREWED MY NO MORE DATING EVER PLAN!!! oh well im happy :D
Pouye
11-01-2005, 01:47 PM
I've prayed about it, and prayed...& prayed. I'm @ the point, where I'm not looking anymore. If it was going to happen, it would have happened already.
My feeling is, Christ will come back before I meet my wife (if I am to marry).
So, I give up...
-R-
Simply focus on your relationship with Christ, and grow into the man who God wants you to be. This is key: Find your confidence in Christ, and NOTHING ELSE.
You say you give up now... but wait until that beatiful girl walks through the door and your stomach does flip flops... ;)
Rock
Grank
11-03-2005, 02:05 AM
I've prayed about it, and prayed...& prayed. I'm @ the point, where I'm not looking anymore. If it was going to happen, it would have happened already.
My feeling is, Christ will come back before I meet my wife (if I am to marry).
So, I give up...
-R-
when people give up it's always funny.... cuz they come out of retirement when they meet the next one. Reminds me of Michael Jordan. Hopefully when you come out of retirement you do better than when Mike did. Oh yeah, and don't play for the Wizards...
R. Smith
11-03-2005, 05:10 PM
I've told my Pastor to stop trying to be a matchmaker, 'cause that doesn't seem to work. And I leave it in Gods hands. I've been single for 9 years now, and almost every Pastor I know in and around my hometown say Christ is coming back soon.
So, I don't see myself getting married before He comes back.
-R- :(
RevZeek
11-03-2005, 08:07 PM
Hey Rock, give us the rest of the story man! Tell us how you and Wendy became well...you and Wendy! :p
Little Diva
11-04-2005, 09:27 AM
I've prayed about it, and prayed...& prayed. I'm @ the point, where I'm not looking anymore. If it was going to happen, it would have happened already.
My feeling is, Christ will come back before I meet my wife (if I am to marry).
So, I give up...
-R-
Its only when you stop looking and just focus on God alone that you get the biggest surprise of your life. When you stop looking and just pray its a time when God is preparing you and your future wife. Be content being who you are and single and bask in God's presence, you never know what the Creator has for you round the corner. Our time is not always God's time.
I used to think like you do and I was searching (and praying at the same time) for the right guy but all i got was duds. Then I decided I wouldn't accept that anymore so I started to be content being single and just looked to God and now God has sent me a guy who is absolutely wonderful.
R. Smith
11-04-2005, 02:04 PM
well, thanx for the advice little diva.
-R- :D
Pouye
11-06-2005, 01:34 AM
I've told my Pastor to stop trying to be a matchmaker, 'cause that doesn't seem to work. And I leave it in Gods hands. I've been single for 9 years now, and almost every Pastor I know in and around my hometown say Christ is coming back soon.
So, I don't see myself getting married before He comes back.
-R- :(
You could always go and serve in Papua New Guinea and marry a beautiful woman over there... all you need is to convince her father (which wouldn't take much, being that you are from an affluent society) and pay the bride price (usually around $1000 US dollars). I'm not joking... I have a friend who came to Papua New Guinea as a single guy in his 30's and is now marrying a lovely Papua New Guinean woman who loves the Lord and is excited to be his wife! You just never know...;)
And what if God sees you getting married before Christ returns? :p
Rock
Pouye
11-06-2005, 02:21 AM
Hey Rock, give us the rest of the story man! Tell us how you and Wendy became well...you and Wendy! :p
We both were moving in the same direction. We met in the registration line at Trinity Western University, signing up for linguistic classes so we could learn how to do Bible Translation. God spoke to Wendy the first time she saw me (this is her story...). Basically God just nudged her heart and communicated to her that I was the one she was to spend the rest of her life with. I got no such nudging, but I found myself attracted to her over the course of our linguistic training. We both ended up on the same music/worship team (she did vocals and I played keyboards and did back-up vocals). She continued to test me. She wanted God to confirm to her that it wasn't just her imagination, so she decided not to pursue a dating relationship with me. She also decided not to spend time with me alone in any way (only with other students in a group).
I felt very comfortable around Wendy, and we became friends during our time at school. She had several "guy friends" that she was pretty close to (on a friendship level), and I thought that she was probably interested in at least one of them (there were 5 guys she hung out with quite frequently). During that semester I began to have feelings for her, but I honestly wanted God's best for her, and I wasn't convinced that *I* was God's best for her... in fact, I figured that a quality, beautiful woman like Wendy (not to mention more educated and more talented in many ways than myself) would most likely be able to serve the Lord more effectively teamed up with someone of "higher caliber" or even single.
Wendy had feelings for me all summer, yet she continued to hold back. She once wrote a note of encouragement (signed, "Your sister in Christ), but I had gotten similar notes (small classes, close friendships) from both girls and guys. I was leaving to go back to the USA (I was broke), and she planned to stay on at TWU and do the next course set. She figured that this was the final test -- if I was interested in her and God was leading me to be with her, He would have to keep the relationship growing, even long distance.
On the last night (before I was to leave to go back home), my room mate said something to me. He said, "Rock, you know a lot of people are talking about how you and Wendy would make an awesome couple." I sat up in the top bunk bed (he was below me) and looked over the side of the bed. Chad was down there with a little reading lamp on, and a big smirk on his face.
"It looks to me like there are other guys in her sights", I sighed.
Chad burst out laughing.
"Are you kidding? Are you talking about Jer and the rest of the guys she hangs with?
"I guess..." I said, with a shrug.
"Man, you are something else. Those guys are just friends in the purest sense of the word. They have even offered to help set you and Wendy up on a date."
I sat up so fast I almost hit my head on the ceiling.
"Are you sure?"
"Am I sure? Of course I'm sure. You know me... always hanging out over at the girls dorm. I've heard it through more than just the grape vine. She is head over heals for you, dude! And I'm even a little jealous!"
My world suddenly changed. I felt all funny inside. I knew there was a deep love and respect in me for Wendy, but I didn't know that she felt the same way about me. I was sunk! I designed a treasure hunt, with a letter and a map. I hand delivered the letter to her right before I left, and simply said goodbye and that I hoped to see her again soon.
Our relationship grew over the distance (through letters, mostly... and a few phone calls). The next time I drove to TWU to meet up with Wendy we talked about marriage. I guess this was our "dating" period, since it wasn't too long after this and we were engaged to be married.
Cutting the story short for the sake of all the guys going, "Gag me with a spoon..."
Rock
coldcupofjoe
11-06-2005, 11:16 AM
Rock... you are an incredible story teller
R. Smith
11-07-2005, 02:07 PM
You went to Trinity Western, in Vancouver (Canada)??? If so, that's so kool.
Thaks for sharing your story...you rock!!!
-R- :D
Pouye
11-10-2005, 05:13 PM
You went to Trinity Western, in Vancouver (Canada)???
-R- :D
TWU... Langley, B.C.
Cananda
We just visited there a few days ago. It was our 10 year reunion. I can hardly believe the new Canada Institute of Linguistics (Canil) and Wycliffe building there... it was so incredible! 160 students in the linguistic program there (compared to only 46 when I went to school there). What an awesome school! It is by far the coolest school in Canada (the only one of it's kind), and I would bet it is the coolest school on the North American continent, too... and I'm not biased. ;)
Did you go there, or have you been there, R.Smith?
Rock
R. Smith
11-10-2005, 05:37 PM
...I didn't go to Trinity Western. But I have a gal pal who went there for 4 years, I've lost touch with her over the years. It would be nice if she comes home for Christmas.
Oh yea, I went to Living Faith Bible College. In Caroline AB.
-R-
jaelgomer
11-14-2005, 12:17 PM
This goes along with all that was said before, I think, but I wanted to say it again anyway..
It's true girls like guys who aren't afraid to go after them, who aren't afraid to take chances. Every girls wants to be with a nice guy, but they just don't seem as fun!
I was sorta dating this guy who was super nice, didn't do a whole lot, never really had (and I have a bad girl history!), so it took lot getting used to. But he was so nice, and I thought, finally, a good guy! But it got old. He wasn't very assertive, he always seemed nervous, and always wanted to talk about "us", and I wa slike, can we just eat dinner. Do we have to mark every first? "Oh, look, our first bite of cheesecake together!" Please! Then I ran into the guy I"m dating now. I knew him before, and he just came and said, "I want you, I like, I'm gonna have you!." The other guy was too nice to even really fight for me. He just said, "Well, do you want time, should I give you some space?" No, I want you to stand up and say, "No, you're mine, let's be together." But he didn't. He basically just cried about it!
That, and it's a self-esteem thing. I need to be with someone who's a little controlling. Not over the top, but someone who sets me straight. I don't want a guy who says, "No, no, you sit, let me do everything..." all the time. Let me do things for you! I feel better about myself when you ask me to wash your clothes, make you dinner and so on. Yet still show me TONS of love, in a not mushy fashion! I hate mushiness!
Did any of tha tmake any sense?!
jaelgomer
11-14-2005, 12:19 PM
By the way, I'm not a cheater. This happened over time, short time period, but it worked out. I told my then sorta kinda boyfriend about this other guy....he did nothing. Just quietly backed into a corner and whatever. Everything was on the up and up
R. Smith
11-14-2005, 02:16 PM
my self esteem is fine, I love myself. But I am a hopeless romantic, I must say. I like the mushy stuff...
-R-
PS - I'll say it again...nice guys finish last.
WeaselInYerFoot
11-14-2005, 02:48 PM
Did any of tha tmake any sense?!
Why yes, it did.
And by yes, I mean no. But like any smart man who's head he doesn't want asploded, I'll go with it anyways.
JESUSFREAK!!!*
12-06-2005, 03:51 PM
you know it is not just us girls who go out with the bad boy....
i know plenty of guys who i thought were good Christian
guys and then you look at the girl they are going out with, the girl
is wearing like belly shirts, and a mini skirt. It kind of blows ya :eek: away...
and you think, are there any guys who want to go out with some who dosen't like show off there body. Okay just thought i would put my two cents in..
IN CHRIST,
JESUSFREAK!!!*
stevenelay
12-06-2005, 04:24 PM
...go after & date jurks??? I ask 'cause I'm a single guy, and nice guy's finish last. I work with a young lady, lets call her Billy. And she is dating the biggest jurk in town, no one can figer out why. She is a nice, quiet, pretty young lady. She can totally do better than him...
-R- :confused:
Maybe because he gives her what she wants?
Pouye
12-08-2005, 07:33 PM
Maybe because he gives her what she wants?
Or maybe it's one of those evolutionary intinct things -- you know... aggressive guys (A high percentage of them jerks) are the survivors, and girls are internally wired to be attracted to them because, genetically, her children will have a better chance of surviving. Since jerks tend to be hardy fellas (more hardy than most docile, church-picnic shmoes), women simply but yet unwittingly propagating the homojerk-species by mating with jerks. Come up with a better answer of why we have so many cool girls dating jerks, and I'll change my mind. :D
Rock
Trillamum
12-09-2005, 05:19 AM
Or maybe it's one of those evolutionary intinct things -- you know... aggressive guys (A high percentage of them jerks) are the survivors, and girls are internally wired to be attracted to them because, genetically, her children will have a better chance of surviving. Since jerks tend to be hardy fellas (more hardy than most docile, church-picnic shmoes), women simply but yet unwittingly propagating the homojerk-species by mating with jerks. Come up with a better answer of why we have so many cool girls dating jerks, and I'll change my mind. :D
Rock
Girls are stupid.
coldcupofjoe
12-09-2005, 02:00 PM
Not all girls are stupid! I happen to know a non-stupid girl. I'm even dating her!
Sharon
12-09-2005, 02:06 PM
Not all girls are stupid! I happen to know a non-stupid girl. I'm even dating her!
Thank you!!!! :D
roxygirlsurfing
12-09-2005, 02:08 PM
Ok i am a girl! and i think the reason why we go for the jerks is because we think that is the best! or that we can't do better! but i have to say... i am not dating a jerk! he is ever so nice and wonderful to me! ....like someone else said not all girls date jerks! some of us know how much we are worth!
coldcupofjoe
12-09-2005, 02:09 PM
Uhm... I didn't know we were dating... I guess that means I need to tell the person I THOUGHT I was dating something... :D
roxygirlsurfing
12-09-2005, 02:10 PM
uh-oh!! lol
Trillamum
12-09-2005, 02:10 PM
Not all girls are stupid! I happen to know a non-stupid girl. I'm even dating her!
Not all, this thread is talking about generalities. Rock asked for a reason besides evolutionary selection for most girls dating jerks, I offered a logical, and true explanation.
And no, we're not all stupid, just the majority of us...thus the reason I mostly hang out with guys.
bassgirl192
12-10-2005, 08:20 PM
i think the same can be said for guys. why do most of them go for the girls that are down right mean and dress horribly (for lack of a better/appropriate discription)? i was thinking about that because a few of my guy friends are doing exactly that. they are dating the kind of girl they said they wouldn't.
Pouye
12-11-2005, 01:47 AM
i think the same can be said for guys. why do most of them go for the girls that are down right mean and dress horribly (for lack of a better/appropriate discription)? i was thinking about that because a few of my guy friends are doing exactly that. they are dating the kind of girl they said they wouldn't.
Sex?
coldcupofjoe
12-11-2005, 04:38 PM
For some reason I agree with Pouye on this one^^
R. Smith
12-12-2005, 02:29 PM
My co-workers & I were talking about relationships, I don't know why. And our union rep said, I know my boyfriend is a jurk. And the one I posted the question on the boards (lets call her Billy), said the same thing. Well, Billy said more harsh words to describe her boyfriend. It confusses me even more, that thay know thier boyfriends are jurks...and that they stay with them.
-R- :confused:
sandie
12-12-2005, 04:21 PM
Roger: did you think to ask these ladies why they stay with their boyfriends?
1inamillion
12-12-2005, 05:41 PM
My co-workers & I were talking about relationships, I don't know why. And our union rep said, I know my boyfriend is a jurk. And the one I posted the question on the boards (lets call her Billy), said the same thing. Well, Billy said more harsh words to describe her boyfriend. It confusses me even more, that thay know thier boyfriends are jurks...and that they stay with them.
-R- :confused:
you should ask them why they stay with there BFs
R. Smith
12-13-2005, 07:47 PM
Well, it may come up later this week. We are having 2 parties for work this week...1 tomorrow.
-R-
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