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bholdj
10-16-2005, 11:17 PM
Heres the link.... its a 3 page read so i will just leave it with the link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9630255/site/newsweek/

Thoughts?

TX3DFan
10-19-2005, 03:33 PM
Looks like nobody wants to touch this one with a 10 foot pole.

I think this excerpt should tell us enough to question the validity of what Smith claimed:

However, LDS doctrine holds that some polygamist marriages will exist in the celestial kingdom, the highest tier of heaven. Smith taught that humans (who were spirits in a "pre-existence") come to earth to get a body and to be tested. After death, everyone is placed into one of three kingdoms, depending on his level of righteousness. Those in the highest degree will dwell with God, their families will be eternal and they'll even become gods themselves—as God did. Lorenzo Snow, fifth LDS prophet, articulated doctrine when he said, "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may be."

Because of Mormonism's unique theology, some of which challenges early Christian creeds, many Christian denominations don't consider the LDS Church to be Christian. "There is no rightful claim by historic Mormon doctrine to the name Christian, because they deny almost every one of the major fundamental doctrines of Christendom," says Norman Geisler, founder of the Southern Evangelical Seminary. But for Latter-day Saints, who believe in the Jesus Christ of both the New Testament and the Book of Mormon, the cold shoulder from other denominations is baffling. "I am devastated when people say I am not a Christian, particularly when generally that means I am not a fourth-century Christian," says Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.


The Bible tells us to beware of false prophets, and I believe without a shadow of a doubt that Smith is one of those false prophets.

On the one belief alone quoted above, about the different levels of Heaven, that should be enough to tell us he wasn't speaking to our Jesus. We don't even need to delve any deeper into the myriad of truly odd beliefs the Mormons have (baptism of the dead, etc).

I was glad to see the second paragraph above in that article, because I'm really tired of seeing them lumped together with all other denominations like they're just another Christian church.

Gandalf
10-19-2005, 05:57 PM
Thoughts on the article? It's a very pro-Mormon piece that doesn't really address the question of whether their beliefs are true, and focuses on their family values, as does most of their evangelism.

Thoughts on Mormonism? It's clearly a non-Christian cult, and some of Smith's claims are laughable (Jackson County, MO = Eden), while others are more insidious (becoming like God) and have been around since the first deception that Satan threw at Eve.

WeaselInYerFoot
10-19-2005, 06:49 PM
Apologetics was never the strength of Mormon theology.

Frankly, I don't understand how people can actually ignore such a vital part of a belief system. Truth leads to outcome, not the other way around.

bholdj
10-20-2005, 12:16 AM
Thoughts on the article? It's a very pro-Mormon piece that doesn't really address the question of whether their beliefs are true, and focuses on their family values, as does most of their evangelism.

Thoughts on Mormonism? It's clearly a non-Christian cult, and some of Smith's claims are laughable (Jackson County, MO = Eden), while others are more insidious (becoming like God) and have been around since the first deception that Satan threw at Eve.

yea, plus I love it how any mormon when caught in a contridiction in there theology (ex. there denial of the trinity/there support of the bible that implies the trinity). They just give you the cold shoulder and walk away from the door.

Laughable...

bholdj
10-20-2005, 12:18 AM
Apologetics was never the strength of Mormon theology.



Ya think? See above post!

Grrrrrrrrr, frustrates me.

SmileyFreak1981
10-20-2005, 02:42 AM
I read this after you had first posted it, John. It was an interesting read. And it did seem a little slanted toward being pro-Mormonism. I don't know quite how to respond, though, because I'm not well versed in what exactly Mormonism is. But I do believe very strongly that Mormonism is not Christian and is a cult.

bella
10-24-2005, 07:44 PM
It's very pro-Mormon because it was written by a Mormon.

rossid
10-24-2005, 10:55 PM
My wife's uncle is Mormon.

As my mother-in-law says he says he has Jesus but he has all of this other stuff. Don't take this as saying he is born again because one cannot be truly born again and be a Mormon.

One of the most interesting Christians I ever knew was a former Mormon. He knew how to pick apart the errors in their theology.

Gandalf
10-25-2005, 04:30 AM
It's very pro-Mormon because it was written by a Mormon.
I was assuming that, but hadn't bothered to look it up - thanks for the info :)