Is Ghost Hunting bad???

[JaciArizona]

Hey everyone! I have been watching a show on Sci-Fi called Ghost Hunters and I think that it would be VERY facinating to hunt for ghosts. These people (hosts/members on show...they are called TAPS--The Atlantic Paranormal Society) help others living in haunted houses. They give the person living in the home their opinion if they should stay or not after they do some hunting to find out if the ghost is aggresive or not. SOME ghosts just make noise...others are more aggresive. I don't think that this show is bad...their intentions ARE good. They DO NOT like the Ouiji Board AT ALL. They believe that it has powers to horrible and powerful to imagine. And just last night, they asked a woman if she wanted her housed BLESSED, which she wanted. They are HUNTING NOT CONJURING ghosts or anything like that. They do NOT do seances or use Mediums/Psyhics either. They are just trying to help others. My question :p is: Do you think it is OKAY to Ghost Hunt? I would LOVE Scripture References...pretty much BIBLE PROOF...not your own opinions really (I don't want to sound mean at all ;) ). Thanks heaps!!!

JaciArizona/Jaclyn

[Healing Oil]

You believe in ghosts?

I guess you can consider this my opinion but I personally do not believe in ghosts. If they are real, we wouldn't need a Heaven or a Hell.

If anything these "ghosts" (which I think alot of this haunted stuff is in their heads) are demons oppressing the home.

Let me add, I watch shows like that too because they are entertaining. Usually about once a week Montel Williams has Sylvia Brown come to his show ( a world reknown "physcic") and people come to her saying their houses are haunted or what not. She will give bizarre reasonings like their house is on an ancient battle field and they are soldier ghosts.

I believe the bible has enough say that demons are real, I dont know about ghosts, but Im pretty sure they arent real. There is no being "stuck between worlds", again...Heaven and Hell.

[Gandalf]

Either way, seeking them out is unwise at best.

If you believe they're truly dead human spirits, the Bible forbids necromancy (attempts to contact/communicate with the dead) just as with witchcraft. If you believe they're demons, then again, seeking them out would clearly be witchcraft. The only interaction you should really have with them would be to resist them and cast them out. Going to look for trouble is not the best idea...

Not saying anything one way or the other about watching the show (though it hardly seems to be one of the holy, pure, beneficial things we are advised to think on), but the activities being portrayed are not something you should copy.

[JaciArizona]

I agree with you both...Healing Oil, I believe that ghosts ARE demons...not "stuck" or in "limbo" between this world and Heaven/Hell. I CANNOT believe some people believe that! :eek: I agree with you Gandalf for saying that it's something I shouldn't copy...you're right. You know, ever since I started watching this show, weird things have been happening around the house...I'm not kidding. Just to name a few weird things happening: New TV turning on by itself (It was about 3 sec. after I turned it OFF--the remote was NOT touched), the same day the doorbell rang and no one was there(that was about 4 sec. before I reached the door...people ALWAYS ring at LEAST twice or three times), etc...Kind of weird huh? I'm going to STAY AWAY from those shows for a while...thanks for your opinions...others are absolutely welcome to say anything more about the subject. Thanks again! :D

JaciArizona

[cheewiee]

Ghosts....

Well first I have enjoyed many'a Ghost Tour... I do it mainly for the folklore and such..

Ghosts could either be one of four things..

1. Figment of somone's imagination..

2. The dead's dismembered spirit..

3. An Echo of Energy..

4. Demonic activity..

1. MANY A Ghosts are simply the overactive imagination of people..
2. As someone earlier mentioned that the human spirit at death either goes to heaven or Hell at death.. So that would eliminate this..
3. This to me Makes alot of sense.. The Human Body put's out so much energy that it is very possible that some of the instances of Ghosts seen could be an echo of that energy... this would not necessarly be a spiritual thing..
4. A real source of supernatural activity. My Grandmother lived in a 'haunted' house. All kinds of parnormal activity was going on. This was 15 years ago.. Anyway My cousin took a picture of me and my mom and there was a cloud of smoke in the picture, and in the cloud you could make out 3 or 4 different faces...

With that said.. While I will go on a ghost tour for the historical context and to learn the local folklore.. I would NEVER go on a ghost hunt.. There is no reason to activly persue a spirit.. who know's what your getting involved in..

Just my 2 Penny's worth..

[Pamster]

I moved into a 'troubled' house. I live there right now. Normally, my discernment meter picks up on these things...or it has before...by noticing the air change (if feels weird to breathe). Living in New England, I came across a few weird places. After the initial 'raising hair on the arms' feeling, I would hot-tail it out of there.

Anyway, I bannished my 'trouble', or so I thought. Though I could not feel anything out of the ordinary, for some reason the smoke alarm would beep 3 times when either me or my daughter would switch the light on to head upstairs. We replaced the smoke alarm, batteries, you name it, to no avail. After 6 months, I ended up losing it and went on a rant to what I thought was nothingness about how they needed to leave and that only my Lord was welcomed in my house. It stopped...

Now a year after the quiet, my husband was deployed and I have had the door bell ring a few times with no one there, of course in the middle of the night. One time was pretty scary, the light outside blew out, then the doorbell rang. My first thought is that it is outside, and can't enter...hence the doorbell. So I don't open the door.

I know this is a distraction. I know it is trying to disturb my peace of mind. I just pray a whole lot more.

[cheewiee]

I moved into a 'troubled' house. I live there right now. Normally, my discernment meter picks up on these things...or it has before...by noticing the air change (if feels weird to breathe). Living in New England, I came across a few weird places. After the initial 'raising hair on the arms' feeling, I would hot-tail it out of there.

Anyway, I bannished my 'trouble', or so I thought. Though I could not feel anything out of the ordinary, for some reason the smoke alarm would beep 3 times when either me or my daughter would switch the light on to head upstairs. We replaced the smoke alarm, batteries, you name it, to no avail. After 6 months, I ended up losing it and went on a rant to what I thought was nothingness about how they needed to leave and that only my Lord was welcomed in my house. It stopped...

Now a year after the quiet, my husband was deployed and I have had the door bell ring a few times with no one there, of course in the middle of the night. One time was pretty scary, the light outside blew out, then the doorbell rang. My first thought is that it is outside, and can't enter...hence the doorbell. So I don't open the door.

I know this is a distraction. I know it is trying to disturb my peace of mind. I just pray a whole lot more.

The above really sounds like a spirit of fear trying to get you worked up..

I think alot of spooky things are a result of the Spirit of fear trying to gain foothold..

One night I went out into my living room in my apartment, the TV flicked on and off.. and I felt a tangable fear decend on me.. so I prayed it out.. cast it out.. and then praised God for about 20 mins.. before finaly heading to bed.

[sirlok]

Sorry for giving my opinion....

I also watch that show. I believe I have not missed one episode yet.
Well, the reason I find it interesting is because I have seen what are known as shadow people...I have even been attacked by one once.
So I must admit I did take interest in it, GhostHunting and all. I even thought it would be cool to try and catch some E.V.P.'s but then thought I shouldn't do such a thing because the bible does forbid us talking to the dead...and as we've seen in the show with Steve and Brian (Brian left the show for a girl) would always go an try and catch some evp's by asking question and hoping for a response....and as we know they do get a response sometimes.

Anyhow, my wife and I have been seeing some shadows around our house. In fact since we moved which was back in July.
What I find interesting about this is that since I was a child I have seen or sensed things, my wife never has. And so when I began seeing things in where we live now I thought I should just keep it to myself and pray...but now its the wife thats telling me she's seeing things.
Anyhow, ImOut!

[Trillamum]

Anyhow, my wife and I have been seeing some shadows around our house. In fact since we moved which was back in July.
What I find interesting about this is that since I was a child I have seen or sensed things, my wife never has. And so when I began seeing things in where we live now I thought I should just keep it to myself and pray...but now its the wife thats telling me she's seeing things.
Anyhow, ImOut!


Interesting, I think that some people are just more sensitive to what's going on in the spiritual realms than others (I believe that the prophets in the old testament had alot of this) and they see or sense things that others just don't. There have been plenty of times when I'll walk into somewhere and just feel the heaviness of evil pervading the place, or I'll walk out of an area and it'll be like a breath of fresh air. I also believe that demons or ghosts or whatever while they do follow people, are often location specific. For instance, take the country of Haiti, the people there dedicated that island to the devil when they gained their independence, and it is still a stronghold of voodoo and such. (not that this can never be reversed, just that the people there welcome demonic activity) I swear that the house we lived in for 6 months when I was about 10 was possessed. The whole time we lived there, I was terrified to be anywhere by myself, and I'm never scared like that, and it ended as soon as we left the house, and picked back up everytime we came home. My little sister who was two at the time seemed to have a death wish while we lived there, in 6 months there were at least 3 instances of her eating some sort of poison, all of which stopped as soon as we moved. Freaky place. But anyway, if you and your wife are seeing or feeling things, I would suggest alot of prayer, and maybe doing the whole anointing the house and its rooms thing.

[sirlok]

Interesting, But anyway, if you and your wife are seeing or feeling things, I would suggest alot of prayer, and maybe doing the whole anointing the house and its rooms thing.


Anointing the House??? I used to do this...years ago.
I know since we've moved into the house my wife and kids including myself have been sick a lot and missing a lot of Church. A good friend suggested I get the Prayer team from church come down and pray for my family and over my house.
I must confess my study of the Word has dwindled a bit too since moving in and so has my prayer and worship time...I always blame being busy, but I suppose Ive simply allowed myself to become lazy.
I will now slap myself accross the head and get to it...the enemy has a plan and I don't think he's sleeping. I better get up before something very strange happens...We're at War and I must put on the Whole Armor of God and Fight...I almost feel as though Im getting carried away...but hey, its true.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

I've seen that show. I appreciate the fact theat they're very scientific about it and will usually conclude that there isn't a "ghost" simply because there isn't enough evidence. For example, they don't say the house is haunted just because they saw a white bubble in a picture. They don't use any witchcraft, simply technology (cameras and recorders and sensors).

Anyways, I have no Biblical support to say it's right, but I find it more interesting as a reality tv show than a crappy survivor show based on betrayal or the next "who wants to marry a moose" on Fox.

[Pixie Wildflower]

I've seen that show. I appreciate the fact theat they're very scientific about it and will usually conclude that there isn't a "ghost" simply because there isn't enough evidence. For example, they don't say the house is haunted just because they saw a white bubble in a picture. They don't use any witchcraft, simply technology (cameras and recorders and sensors).

Anyways, I have no Biblical support to say it's right, but I find it more interesting as a reality tv show than a crappy survivor show based on betrayal or the next "who wants to marry a moose" on Fox.

LOL! I tend to agree with the person that talked about echoes of energy. I think if some is alert enough to interact with you, you have a problem, but I think in many instances, it's like a energy signature from the past or you might be seeing through a wrinkle in time. There is so much we don't know about what goes on in the universe and we probably couldn't understand it if we did know. God lets us know what we need to and just put the rest in his hands.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

LOL! I tend to agree with the person that talked about echoes of energy. I think if some is alert enough to interact with you, you have a problem, but I think in many instances, it's like a energy signature from the past or you might be seeing through a wrinkle in time. There is so much we don't know about what goes on in the universe and we probably couldn't understand it if we did know. God lets us know what we need to and just put the rest in his hands.

Yes, quantum physics is very new to the scientific community and has been a real eye-opener.

[Gandalf]

Quantum effects are negligibly small on macroscopic scales. They are noticable when dealing with electrons, but not with massive objects.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

... I'm gonna go out and get some holy water and a crucifix. Maybe then I'll be able to exorcise my cat.

I've been meaning to do that myself.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

Quantum effects are negligibly small on macroscopic scales. They are noticable when dealing with electrons, but not with massive objects.

Yes, but they are an indication of a universal interconnection, as well as a manifest of the existance of the unseen. I'm not saying that there's another world out there, but our concept of what is matter and its absolute and exclusive truth doesn't seem as consistent anymore.

[Gandalf]

Really, it's just indicative of us not yet knowing precisely why some microscopic phenomena happen - there's nothing inherently supernatural about quantum physics. I agree that the supernatural exists, but quantum physics is less an evidence of it than the fact that you have free will, or that anything exists at all. The statistical nature of quantum physics basically just tells us that while we can observe what's likely to happen, we haven't figured out precisely how and why. It doesn't imply any interaction with the supernatural whatsoever. I'm not saying spirits don't exist: they do, but there's nothing in current quantum physics that has anything to do with them.

[sirlok]

But when a spook is involved, who can tell? :eek: ;)

This thread is real interesting. I'm gonna go out and get some holy water and a crucifix. Maybe then I'll be able to exorcise my cat.


Holy Water??? Crucifix??? :confused:

Borrow a dog, a big dog...after one meeting the cat should be exorcised good enough... :)

[sirlok]

Saw the show last night (AFTER I SAW THE L.A. Kings GET BEAT BY DALLAS STARS in the Season Opener 4-5) *exuse me* when they went to the Queen Mary and thought they had something on video with some blankets getting pulled off a bed. I was sitting there thinking "No Way!?"
Then Steve showed the guys how somebody was pulling there leg. It was a hoax!
Once again...no ghost.

[WeaselInYerFoot]

Really, it's just indicative of us not yet knowing precisely why some microscopic phenomena happen - there's nothing inherently supernatural about quantum physics. I agree that the supernatural exists, but quantum physics is less an evidence of it than the fact that you have free will, or that anything exists at all. The statistical nature of quantum physics basically just tells us that while we can observe what's likely to happen, we haven't figured out precisely how and why. It doesn't imply any interaction with the supernatural whatsoever. I'm not saying spirits don't exist: they do, but there's nothing in current quantum physics that has anything to do with them.

That's what I'm trying to say. That some of these "hauntings" need to be aproached in a scientific way. I wasn't saying that qp is a manifestation of the supernatural, but that what some people concider a manifestation of such, can actually be something else bassed on the idea that there's smaller activity ocurring in our universe that is beyond atomic. And if there's is such small scale activity then it is possible that these could happen in a clustered fashion or take on some other method. I wasn't implying spiritual acitivty at all. Maybe when I mentioned my disbelief of another/parallel world, I should have included spiritual (as in ghosts).

[Gandalf]

All right; I misunderstood you, sorry.

I agree that there are naturalistic explanations for some of the phenomena that people consider to be "haunting" but not all - there really are spiritual beings that interact with people. Humans, as (supernatural) spirits, have direct impact on the physical world only through acting on our bodys' brains - that is, our wills can directly affect our brains in such a way as to control our bodies. There's not necessarily a reason to say it's not possible that other spiritual beings (demons, etc) might be able to interact with nature in other instances. It's also a likely explanation though that in many cases people are just misinterpreting purely natural events.

[sirlok]

Can what is known in the Ghost Hunting arena as Shadow People be explained?

I was attacked once back in '94 by a Shadow. It was without natural form, more animated is how I could describe it. It had arms, legs, a head but it was all black and I could tell it had eyes and a mouth. It kept laughing at me...no, it wasn't audible, just a huge animated smile.
I layed there in my bed shocked more than anything as this thing jumped in through my window, that has security bars on them, and it jumped on top of me and pinned me down. Then this thing covered my mouth with its left hand as it proceeded to slap my face furiously with its right hand...I don't remember feeling pain. It was more like, I couldn't believe this was happening, thus the reason I didn't call on the name of my Lord and Saviour.
I mean I had "seen" things before, but I was never touched! Or hit in this case.
My mom and stepdad ran into the room screaming something like I rebuke you in the Name of Jesus! Get out!!! and my mom Jumped on top of me as this thing jumped back outside.
I looked at my mom, still feeling the horror of what had just happened and asked, "How did you know?" She said "I felt something evil was attacking you."
I thought, so Im not going crazy.

Can these Shadow things be explained, I simply believe it was a demon. I also feel this way about ghost...but I suppose when it comes to ghost, how can we really know? I just think their are a bunch of demons out there that like messing with people to the point that people, even some christians would get their focus off the Lord and get into "ghost hunting" and stuff and end up opening doors we have no business opening...

[Gandalf]

A demon seems a likely explanation there...

[Greg]

Demons can manifest as ghosts. They're never dead people I know there's a verse that says people once they're gone, they're spirits aren't on earth anymore, it's somewhere in the old testament. Demons can also manifest as aliens.

[Gandalf]

People also have active imaginations... they'll often think they saw aliens, ghosts, etc. when there was in reality nothing there. It's also possible for people to become confused and think that parts of dreams really happened.

[Greg]

People also have active imaginations... they'll often think they saw aliens, ghosts, etc. when there was in reality nothing there. It's also possible for people to become confused and think that parts of dreams really happened.

True. I agree, but some hallucinations can come from Satan, too. ;)

[JaciArizona]

Can these Shadow things be explained, I simply believe it was a demon. I also feel this way about ghost...but I suppose when it comes to ghost, how can we really know? I just think their are a bunch of demons out there that like messing with people to the point that people, even some christians would get their focus off the Lord and get into "ghost hunting" and stuff and end up opening doors we have no business opening...

Ooooo! VERY good point!

[JaciArizona]

Saw the show last night (AFTER I SAW THE L.A. Kings GET BEAT BY DALLAS STARS in the Season Opener 4-5) *exuse me* when they went to the Queen Mary and thought they had something on video with some blankets getting pulled off a bed. I was sitting there thinking "No Way!?"
Then Steve showed the guys how somebody was pulling there leg. It was a hoax!
Once again...no ghost.

I KNOW! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?! I WAS SO MAD TOO! :mad: Who would stoop to such a level and mess with their cameras? This is something NOT to be taken lightly.

[sirlok]

I KNOW! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?! I WAS SO MAD TOO! :mad: Who would stoop to such a level and mess with their cameras? This is something NOT to be taken lightly.


Yeah! I was alright guys! They actually caught something on video...and just as fast the moment was taken away.
They will have to put a camera to cover the camera at some of their hunts.

[Pixie Wildflower]

But it is to be expected. You have a show like that and people will do all they can to try to mess them up. It's an interesting test of their deductional skills though.

That is true. They were wise enough to see right through it after the first initial shock. It is interesting as a debunking show. There is actually very little that can't be explained. Those guys are good.

[markie4u2001]

Hey everyone! I have been watching a show on Sci-Fi called Ghost Hunters and I think that it would be VERY facinating to hunt for ghosts. These people (hosts/members on show...they are called TAPS--The Atlantic Paranormal Society) help others living in haunted houses. They give the person living in the home their opinion if they should stay or not after they do some hunting to find out if the ghost is aggresive or not. SOME ghosts just make noise...others are more aggresive. I don't think that this show is bad...their intentions ARE good. They DO NOT like the Ouiji Board AT ALL. They believe that it has powers to horrible and powerful to imagine. And just last night, they asked a woman if she wanted her housed BLESSED, which she wanted. They are HUNTING NOT CONJURING ghosts or anything like that. They do NOT do seances or use Mediums/Psyhics either. They are just trying to help others. My question :p is: Do you think it is OKAY to Ghost Hunt? I would LOVE Scripture References...pretty much BIBLE PROOF...not your own opinions really (I don't want to sound mean at all ;) ). Thanks heaps!!!

JaciArizona/JaclynYou maybe better stop watching that stuff or you might bstart thinking you're an elf of the fairy order and that star wars is a true story. Some guy on a differant forum thout that and he wanted an icon showing he is a christian-pagan. He said he came from a another planet and his wife had natural pointed ears. He was serious too. We all have icons showing we're christians or not because there's all differant religions on that forum and he was asked to change hs icon but he says he's a christian so wrote a thread asking for a christian-paganism icon. He was serious too. I think he left the forum after that thread though.
To answer your question I do believe in ghosts and other paranormal stuff or at least the possibility of their being such things but I don't know how much is in their heads and how much is caused by devil spirits. I don't think ghost hunting is necessarily evil but I wouldn't want to do it.

[SueQ]

I moved into a 'troubled' house. I live there right now. Normally, my discernment meter picks up on these things...or it has before...by noticing the air change (if feels weird to breathe). Living in New England, I came across a few weird places. After the initial 'raising hair on the arms' feeling, I would hot-tail it out of there.

Anyway, I bannished my 'trouble', or so I thought. Though I could not feel anything out of the ordinary, for some reason the smoke alarm would beep 3 times when either me or my daughter would switch the light on to head upstairs. We replaced the smoke alarm, batteries, you name it, to no avail. After 6 months, I ended up losing it and went on a rant to what I thought was nothingness about how they needed to leave and that only my Lord was welcomed in my house. It stopped...

Now a year after the quiet, my husband was deployed and I have had the door bell ring a few times with no one there, of course in the middle of the night. One time was pretty scary, the light outside blew out, then the doorbell rang. My first thought is that it is outside, and can't enter...hence the doorbell. So I don't open the door.

I know this is a distraction. I know it is trying to disturb my peace of mind. I just pray a whole lot more.


When you command them to leave, don't tell them just to leave, tell them to go back to where they came from...then they won't be hanging outside your door...