Here's one for Conspiracy Buffs...

[The Unknown Gomer]

I'd not seen this before... someone has come up with the theory that it wasn't actually a 757 passenger jumbo jet that hit the Pentagon on 9/11, that it was something else entirely.

The link to the site was emailed to me tonight, titled "HAVE YOU EVER SAW THIS VIDEO...MAKES YOU THINK" (grammatical errors not mine :rolleyes: )

But yeah it does... file it in the ole mental filing cabinet under "Things that make you go 'Hmmmmm...' " :confused:

link (http://www.freedomunderground.or g/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main )

'Course, there are banner ads on that site pushing things relating to alien abductions as well, so, well... you get the idea. :rolleyes:

[moscottie]

Interesting, conspiracy theories always give me the creeps........

[Gandalf]

This one's been around for a few years. snopes (http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm)

[sirlok]

I've seen this before too.
I heard Oliver North tell the story of where he was on 9/11 on a Christian Radio station out here in Los Angeles some years ago.
He said he was on a plane heading to Washington D.C.
The plane he was in was flying somewher close to the Pent. when suddenly. Bang. He immidiately thought it was a missile and said he began to pray thinking this was it. I believe he even asked the Lord to receive him at that moment expecting a huge blast and for the plane he was on to go down, but then as we know the rest is "history".

[igavemylife]

maybe I'm naive...but I think it's a little much to think that our government would 'stage' such a thing. Thousands of ppl died on 9/11. And instead of mourning that tragedy, we are looking for ways to blame our own government for it!

It was a terrible thing, but some good has to come out of it all....we have to stop placing the blame and trying to find a huge conspiracy.

Right after 9/11 I was so amazed about how our country came together, most supported everything that was being done to find the terrorists and the horrid people that did this. Now we are saying that we should never have gone after the terrorists and most are back to the way they were on 9/10.

Instead of looking for conspiracies in this tragedy, lets turn it around and make it a good thing for the Lord. Support your troops that are fighting for you. And show love to all those around you, the same love that you showed on 9/11 but stopped showing as the pictures and stories became common place. We are desensitized to the pictures and stories...this isn't good, those pictures should still bring tears to your eyes. If we forget about it then it will most likely happen again. When it does I don't wanna have to say...wow I wish we'd payed more attention to that...read your history books...history does repeat itself...especially when we are ignorant to the same signs we saw before...

so that's my .02

Love ya Lani

[NotMyOwn]

Any claims that the government had any involvement is just plain stupid.

[firedupnat]

aparently there has been a cover up with the 9/11 and well we were nto told the truth they have lied. u can find out about the cover up some where but i can't remmber where tho

[Howlin' Wolf]

aparently there has been a cover up with the 9/11 and well we were nto told the truth they have lied. u can find out about the cover up some where but i can't remmber where tho
what do you know?

[The Unknown Gomer]

This one's been around for a few years. snopes (http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm)Sheesh, with all the spam and chain emails I get, you'd think I would have gotten this one before now. I'd already figured it was bogus anyway, since it WAS sharing webspace with "alien abductions". :rolleyes: :p

[ibanez_player]

interesting

[kiwimobro]

forget the rhetoric ... look carefully at the photographs and ask yourself ~ where is the convincing evidence of a large aircraft (either in the wreckage or the approach)? :confused:

[coldcupofjoe]

My thing is that a Boeing 757 is big enough that in order for it to hit in between the first and second floors it would have had to be on the ground but there is no visible evidence of an impact on the ground near the pentagon whatsoever. All the rest about the no damage caused by the wings and such can be easily explained away, but why was there no damage on the ground leadin to the site of impact?

[ibanez_player]

did they recover any bodies from the pentagon of non-staff people?

[fiddlefool]

well...if the 757 didnt go into the pentagon... where did it go?

[Gandalf]

My thing is that a Boeing 757 is big enough that in order for it to hit in between the first and second floors it would have had to be on the ground but there is no visible evidence of an impact on the ground near the pentagon whatsoever. All the rest about the no damage caused by the wings and such can be easily explained away, but why was there no damage on the ground leadin to the site of impact?
It did hit the ground on approach - check the Snopes article.

[Sarah_Beth]

did they recover any bodies from the pentagon of non-staff people?

Yeah! That's what I wanna know!

[Trillamum]

Man, I saw this title and thought you were talking about THE Conspiracy with some new factoid or something.

[prayercloth sis]

Very interesting.

[lilybear]

[QUOTE=igavemylife]maybe I'm naive...but I think it's a little much to think that our government would 'stage' such a thing.



I don't think they would stage a thing like that, but it looks to me like they could becovering something up. It's a bit sus if you ask me. ;)

[kiwisongbird]

Who knows eh? Only God knows the whole truth about anything... We watch the movie Wag the Dog and you know, stuff like that could happen... and government people are just people you know, they can be manipulated just same as anyone else - maybe more cos more is at stake??? :) :)

[WeaselInYerFoot]

Here's an interesting video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change) about 9/11. It's 1.3 hours long so make sure you have time!

Some of the things they say make you think, some of them you can bluntly tell that they are taking it too far. One problem with conspiracy theorists is they tend to get a small theory and make it huge in order to answer all the questions in an event. In other words, they connect too many dots and end up sounding absurd.

[cheewiee]

Here's an interesting video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change) about 9/11. It's 1.3 hours long so make sure you have time!

Some of the things they say make you think, some of them you can bluntly tell that they are taking it too far. One problem with conspiracy theorists is they tend to get a small theory and make it huge in order to answer all the questions in an event. In other words, they connect too many dots and end up sounding absurd.

It's like with the Kennedy Assasination..

Did Oswald act alone... Possibly, but there are compelling arguments that suggest otherwise...

But was this a hit put out by the defense industry that was pissed he averted war in cuba, and was possibly pulling back from getting in vietnam?!

[Aussie3rddayfan]

aparently there has been a cover up with the 9/11 and well we were nto told the truth they have lied. u can find out about the cover up some where but i can't remmber where tho

If you could somehow prove a cover-up or prove that the Government did have soemthing to do with 9/11 you would disappear of the face of the earth.

This video proves nothing. They make it look like it is undeniable to say that the government played a part in 9/11. Conspiracy theories have been around forever and the funny thing is that's exactly what they remain, conspiracy. The idea that the American government intentionally flew planes with its own citizens into its own military headquarters is to be quite honest laughable.

[Evanescence]

I can't view video with dial up.....can someone post the brief conspiracy theory on this thread?

What do they claim happened?

I've heard Con-Theories too....

A group of Amish claim they saw a missile hit Flight 93 and thats what brought it down. We shot it down so it wouldn't find its target. I also dated an older woman...she was 41 and I was 33...no jokes please....her son in law worked for the US Govt. He told her point blank that we shot it down so it wouldnt strike Wash. The Let's Roll story was fabricated to cover it up....

The Flight 93 story COULD be true but any other Con-Theory especially about the Govt causing 9/11 somehow is bogus. There's too many people who would know/let it leak out....it's too big to cover up...

I'd like to know what it is though....do tell...

[Aussie3rddayfan]

I can't view video with dial up.....can someone post the brief conspiracy theory on this thread?

What do they claim happened?

I've heard Con-Theories too....

A group of Amish claim they saw a missile hit Flight 93 and thats what brought it down. We shot it down so it wouldn't find its target. I also dated an older woman...she was 41 and I was 33...no jokes please....her son in law worked for the US Govt. He told her point blank that we shot it down so it wouldnt strike Wash. The Let's Roll story was fabricated to cover it up....

The Flight 93 story COULD be true but any other Con-Theory especially about the Govt causing 9/11 somehow is bogus. There's too many people who would know/let it leak out....it's too big to cover up...

I'd like to know what it is though....do tell...

The basic claim is that something other than a Boeing 757 (Flight 77) hit the Pentagon. They base their claim on some 'eye-witness' claims that the plane was much smaller/ it was a missile/ explosives and that the lack of video (closeby buildings with cameras had the footage confiscated moments after the impact and it has never been released) means the government is hiding something. :rolleyes:

They also claim that:

* no parts of the aircraft were found minutes after the impact
* undamaged windows near the impact
* the angle of impact claimed by the US suggests the wings should have clipped off outside the pentagon but there are none
* the main hole is too clean for a aircraft to punch through
* Flight 77 disappeared of radar 45 minutes before impact
* A former employee at the place where the al-qaeda terrorists trained said the man who flew the plane into the pentagon says he had no idea of how to fly
* There is a claim that if the aircraft flew over the freeway it should have left alot of turbulance when it passed

I will point out that the pentagon security camera footage of the impact clearly shows a 757 hit the building. I have seen a TV show covering the attack on the pentagon which is far superior in quality to what you see on the site. It was a 757.

Next time they will claim in little green men.... :o :rolleyes:

[ICarlson99]

I only WISH our government was as cunning and able as people seem to think. :rolleyes:

For crying out loud, we can't even keep "secret" prisons secret, and yet people think a plan of this magnitude and severity could be kept neatly under wraps??? Ugh.

[Grank]

I only WISH our government was as cunning and able as people seem to think. :rolleyes:

For crying out loud, we can't even keep "secret" prisons secret, and yet people think a plan of this magnitude and severity could be kept neatly under wraps??? Ugh.

hahaha...