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Howlin' Wolf
09-10-2005, 05:51 PM
not saying you were implying anything different,but how about no sex until you're married?

if we taught more of that, then the abortion issue would become smaller and smaller....

or if virginity wasnt an idol that youth groups seem to worship and sex was put in its proper context, where girls who have made a mistake arent made to feel like hester pryne. you would be amazed at the percentage of christian girls that have abortions. i think the moral right and the church are wasting their times in getting abortion outlawed. abortion isnt the problem. its a symptom of the real problem.

larryl
09-10-2005, 09:58 PM
or if virginity wasnt an idol that youth groups seem to worship and sex was put in its proper context, where girls who have made a mistake arent made to feel like hester pryne. you would be amazed at the percentage of christian girls that have abortions. i think the moral right and the church are wasting their times in getting abortion outlawed. abortion isnt the problem. its a symptom of the real problem.


i agree with you as well. teaching on this entire subject is mightily lacking in our churches.

indianjoy
09-10-2005, 11:11 PM
"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born" -ronald reagan

markie4u2001
10-18-2005, 11:48 PM
This did not go the direction I had planned, but I just wanted to direct random viewers towards the end posts becaue this has turned into a full fledged debate, and we can take more people for the ride. Just thought I would throw that out there! Thanks!


Hello,
I bet you are wondering what on earth I am doing starting an abrotion thread, but I am sooo against it, it's not even funny, and a friend of mine just had one and...I am doing my best not to strangle her. Anywayz, I am looking for any good quotes on abortion (against only) that I can put a forward together and spread it all over the place. I want people to understand how horrible it really is and put it in perspective for them. An example might be: "Isn't it a bit hypocritical to have been born and be pro abortion?" or "Aren't you glad your parents weren't pro choice?" or "Aren't you glad your parents wanted you?" Those are bumper stickers, but pics would be good, though I would probably cry at the sight of them. Anything would be appreciated. Thanks a lot! God Bless!
*~Heather~*Sometimes I think some people should have been aborted before they grew up. :mad: No abortion is murder and if it's legal then it could become legal to abort your kid after it's born.

Healing Oil
10-21-2005, 05:19 PM
I saw a bumper sticker the other day that showed a growing baby inside a womb and it said "No matter how small I am, Im still a person".

I have alot more that I cant think of right now so I will get back to you.

Healing Oil
10-21-2005, 05:32 PM
Ok, here are some more.

"Abortion doesnt make you 'un'pregnant. It makes you the mother of a dead baby."

"She's a child, not a choice."

"How Can There Be Too Many Children? That's Like Saying There Are Too Many Flowers" - Mother Teresa

"It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." -Mother Teresa

"I Bet The Pro-Choicers Are Glad Their Parents Weren't."

"If Mary was Pro-choice there would be no Christmas!"

"SMILE! Your MOM Chose LIFE"

steffen
10-21-2005, 06:29 PM
I'm against forcing my view on other people... if they want to live a sinful life, I can't stop them. I can only tell them about Christ. (Of course other standards apply to people that profess to be a brother).

If homosexuals want to "marry", it's ok with me (if they don't do so in church).

If my friends want to get wasted every weekend, I'm not the one to point my fingers at them.

But when millions of unborn are being slaughtered, it is our mission to help those that nobody else helps. Let them call us fundamentalists or intollerant or whatever - there are a million of children hand-made by God, as valuable as you and me, that will thank us.

500-400 years ago when there was still slavery, most people thought it was ok... because THE SLAVES WERE NOT "PEOPLE", and thus not counting in the statistics.

I could accept abortion if it could be medically proved that the fetus is any less than a person. But it can't! From the moment of conception, all the fetus needs is nutrients and love and in a few years it will be running around in your back-yard digging holes and stuffing things in the mouth.

The sperm can never become a person, nor can an egg, but from the moment the two become one, they only requires nutrients and love.

I believe the way a fetus is defined as a human being today, is that it must be possible to keep it alive outside the womb. But that's nonsense. Does it become a human being any later in the Third World? I mean, if a child is born a month to early in Africa, it's pretty sure to die, right? So it can't be a person, then. And what if new technologies are invented, enabling us to keep them alive from an earlier age? Is the definition of human life dependant on our technology?

It also seems strange that if a woman wants to get pregnant it's a baby, but if she doesn't it's a fetus.

Until the 22nd (in Denmark) week, the mother decides if it's an individual or an infection.

Did you know that a child has a nerve system at that point of time?

If you ever consider having an abortion, consider what it feels like. What thoughts are running through the head of an infant when it's being sucked out of the safe womb, and torn into pieces?

This might seem hard, but this is something that's really been on my heart lately.

Forever4Jesus
10-21-2005, 06:54 PM
I think abortion is completely wrong! It is murder. Since murder is a crime in this Country I think people who do/provide abortions should be thrown in jail. If the mother doesn't want the baby....they should have it anyways, then give it up for adoption because there are many people out there that deserve a baby, but can't have any. If people don't want a baby then they should wear protection or better yet abstain from having sex until marriage.

sirlok
10-21-2005, 06:59 PM
Im Pro-Choice, In fact Im soooo Pro-Choice I have had several heated discussions with people over my stance on this...Yep!
Pro-Choice is the was to go....

I believe




















The UnBorn Child Should Choose!!!!!!!!!!! Thats Right! As long as the Baby is doing the choosing. Im with it.

If the Lord brought Judgement upon the nations who used to sacrifice children to Baal and Baalam and whatever, Its only a matter of time that judgement will be brought for the way a lot of woman choose as a contraceptive/birth control. and the men who force them into it.

and especially on these abortion mills...man its sad...

sirlok
10-21-2005, 07:00 PM
I think abortion is completely wrong! It is murder. Since murder is a crime in this Country I think people who do/provide abortions should be thrown in jail. If the mother doesn't want the baby....they should have it anyways, then give it up for adoption because there are many people out there that deserve a baby, but can't have any. If people don't want a baby then they should wear protection or better yet abstain from having sex until marriage.

I AGREE!!!


ssr eeerrrr!!!

Mrs. Radu Sarbu
10-22-2005, 12:23 AM
i am totally against abortion, i mean really, if you do not want your baby,
ITS CALLED ADOPTION!

but why bother even having one( or trying to), if you will not want it,

1inamillion
11-07-2005, 04:42 PM
what i don't get is when they DO get married and DO get pregant and have like maybe 2 or 3 children and then get pregnant AGAIN and kill that ONE cuz they "have to many as it is" that really GRR ok and also what i don't get is the women haveing like 4 of 5 abortions!! i'd like to go slap the crap out of anyone who thinks abortions are "your choice" it's not your choie it's Gods and your babys GRRRRRRRRRR ok now back to what you say..
Yes i think abortion is wrong even if i was raped i would still have the baby my mom and me were talking one day and i was asking her what she would do if i got raped and had a baby she said depending on how old i was she would prolly adopt it and still let me raise it!
BUT yea i'm stopping now
In christ
Peacock

spanishfly
11-10-2005, 12:36 AM
i competley agree with you. my sissy and me held out abortian panflits at a local fair, so if anyone wants to take action about it there's one way. or even outside local wall~marts or in malls. just be careful, some wacko woman came up to us, yelling as us that we should mind our own buiessness, and that women should have a right to choose. my sissy really gave a could comeback, she quietly says," what, to choose weather to kill thier child or not?" the lady just stormed away. guess she couldn't argue with that, who can?
thats really true is their choice to make any decision. who are we to judge

jaelgomer
11-14-2005, 11:44 AM
Just do me a favor and don't make your friend try to feel guilty and regret it. All that will happen on it's own. Instead make sure your friend knows you love her dearly, as does God. Her sin is no worse than sins you have commited, I am sure. Not to say abortion is just the same as say lying to mom and dad about staying out an hour past curfew, but in God's eyes, sin is sin. Who are we to judge (not saying you are.). Am I pro abortion? No. Do I love those who have had an abortion, most definately. These are women who are in pain. There are problems deeper than you will ever know. You can't throw phrases at a woman and expect that it will change her mind! Offer an alternative. Start working at a place like Crisis Pregnancy Center that offers help to girls in situations where they think abortion is the only way out. I used to think that girls who had abortions were all the same. All they thought about was "me, me, me". That they just waltzed in the clinic and got it done and went right on with their lives.
And again, while I don't condone it, you have to look deeper. Did your friend feel like she had any alternative? Was her family supporting her, or did they make her feel terrible for being unwed and pregnant? Was she raped? Were their problems you didn't know about? Not saying it makes it right, but try to go to her, comfort her, tell he you are there for her, you know she is hurting, struggling, and will for a very long time, but you will help her through it. And tell her that in the future, if ever she finds herself in a similar situation, that you want to help her find another way out.
I can say all this because I'm pro-life and have had an abortion in the past. Seen both sides of the fence, and I don't believe abortion is the right answer, but I can at least see and understand the pain. I know there are better alternatives, and I don't believe abortion is right in any sitiuation, but we can't change women's minds by telling them how terrible they are for even thinking it. Only by loving them and showing them something better, can we even hope to change their minds.

jaelgomer
11-14-2005, 11:58 AM
Again, please don't take what I've said and assume I'm saying it's okay in some circumstances. Not saying that. I'm talking about from the girl's point of view. From her mindset.
I was raped and said if I got pregnant, I would keep that baby. As hard as it would be. I felt like that baby would be the good that came from something terrible.
You can't just say to a woman, "Don't kill it, just do this..." It isn't that easy in her mind. It requires more than just throwing out ideas. An adoption is the ideal way out if you don't want the baby, but then the girl is still thinking, yeah, but I still gotta be pregnant for 9 months. Think before you tell some girl in that situation what to do. She's just gonna look at you like you're an idiot. Cuz honestly, you have NO CLUE what she's feeling/thinking/going through. Don't ever act like you have the solution...instead direct her to someone better suited to talk to her in her present situation. Just offer your love and support and be sure she knows taht even she opts for the abortion, while you cannot agree with and you cannot condone it, you will love her still the same, and help her recover, mostly emotionally and spiritually and mentally. Your parents have loved you even when you made the wrong choices and broke their hearts. Do the same for her.