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evychevy
06-12-2009, 02:47 PM
I'm wondering if anyone is aware of this website that negatively singles out Third Day...
I did a search for "Third Day" and "Born Again" and this is a site that came up:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/third_day.htm
Can anything be done about this? Talk about bearing false witness!!:eek:
jesus loves me
06-12-2009, 03:03 PM
With freedom of speech and of the press, I don't think there's anything that can be done about it. It's one whacko's belief. It's up to whoever reads it to either agree or disagree. I strongly disagree.
ChelsieGratzer
06-12-2009, 03:04 PM
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!! That makes me SOOOOOOOOOOO mad! All we can do is pray that something will be done about this and hope the best comes. That's just horrible things to say! And.. wow.. just... WOW!!!!! That makes me so mad! I'm so mad... my eyes are filled with tears!!!!! That's just HORRIBLE!!!! I'm not sure what to do about it! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
NurseBettyLu
06-12-2009, 03:09 PM
Utterly disregard them. The angrier they make you, the more they win.
Sharon
06-12-2009, 03:23 PM
This has been around for a while .... not the first time we've seen it ...
*rolls eyes to the point of having a seizure* :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
The Unknown Gomer
06-12-2009, 03:24 PM
Another one? There was one a few years back too, if I remember right.
Utterly disregard them. The angrier they make you, the more they win.
And unfortunately threads like this just give it more publicity, which is exactly what they want. (I'd personally delete the link to the site in that first post, myself, I know some search engines rate sites higher based on the number of places links to the site show up. If people want to read it badly enough, they'll go look for it.)
Fortunately, the folks who like 3D will know the site is just *pthththt*, and those who don't like them already don't like them anyway, so essentially the pages is just a waste of pixels and bandwidth.
Needless to say, since the link was here, I went ahead and boosted their hit count by one, just to see what they had to say, but didn't stay long. I KNEW I should have stopped reading when they mentioned the BeeGees! The BeeGees?! :confused: *snicker* But I kept going, until I got to the line "In fact, ALL rock-n-roll music is straight from Satan." which is when I closed the tab.
:rolleyes: Utter claptrap. *sniffs with disdain* Not worth wasting my time reading the rest of it.
NurseBettyLu
06-12-2009, 03:26 PM
This has been around for a while .... not the first time we've seen it ...
*rolls eyes to the point of having a seizure* :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Easy, you'll hurt yourself.
ChelsieGratzer
06-12-2009, 03:30 PM
Well, this is the first anti-Third Day site I've seen! So, I couldn't help but read it all and I got mad. But I'm just gonna try and let it go and believe what I believe!
(I hate people like this!)
NurseBettyLu
06-12-2009, 03:30 PM
Another one? There was one a few years back too, if I remember right.
And unfortunately threads like this just give it more publicity, which is exactly what they want. (I'd personally delete the link to the site in that first post, myself, I know some search engines rate sites higher based on the number of places links to the site show up. If people want to read it badly enough, they'll go look for it.)
Fortunately, the folks who like 3D will know the site is just *pthththt*, and those who don't like them already don't like them anyway, so essentially the pages is just a waste of pixels and bandwidth.
Needless to say, since the link was here, I went ahead and boosted their hit count by one, just to see what they had to say, but didn't stay long. I KNEW I should have stopped reading when they mentioned the BeeGees! The BeeGees?! :confused: *snicker* But I kept going, until I got to the line "In fact, ALL rock-n-roll music is straight from Satan." which is when I closed the tab.
:rolleyes: Utter claptrap. *sniffs with disdain* Not worth wasting my time reading the rest of it.
I didn't even bother giving them a hit. I've dealt with these "rock music is of the devil" people before, and the best approach is to ignore them. No, they don't go away, but we get fewer stomach aches. Ooh, I wonder if Sharon's eyes are all right...
The Unknown Gomer
06-12-2009, 03:32 PM
This has been around for a while .... not the first time we've seen it ...
*rolls eyes to the point of having a seizure* :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
LOL.
Or how about THIS (http://smiliesftw.com/x/huge_roll_eyes.gif) Mega Eyeroll? SUPERSIZE ME! :D
(tried to actually post it here, but forgot there's no "photo" link in the 3D Discussion forum, and it's too big to attach.)
NurseBettyLu
06-12-2009, 03:36 PM
My favorite eyeroll! All together now, let's roll our eyes at these bozos...
jesus loves me
06-12-2009, 03:39 PM
At least Mac had a 'Christian' haircut in the photo they used! His hair is of course 'shameful' now. :rolleyes:
DanGross
06-12-2009, 03:41 PM
Every so often when I do a search on Third Day I come across one of "those" sites. I just chuckle, roll my eyes and move on.
Here's a video Brody Harper took of protesters outside The Rock and Worship Roadshow (tour featuring MercyMe, Jeremy Camp, Hawk Nelson, 10th Ave. North, Addison Road) venue in Baton Rouge this April: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr4DB2WNvY (oh, and go ahead and watch the video. You're not giving clicks to the anti-CCM crowd, but to the contrary ;) ).
jesus loves me
06-12-2009, 03:42 PM
Oh dear. That was awful.
The Unknown Gomer
06-12-2009, 03:44 PM
Can I get a show of hands of anyone here who DOESN'T know who the Bee Gees are? :D I know there are a bunch of youngsters on the boards, so just curious if anyone is young enough that they've never heard of them before.
LOL. Still can't get over the fact that Third Day was compared to the Bee Gees. For the clothes they wore for the photo shoot. And for not SMILING! Ooooooh. *titter*
Of course the first thing that crossed my mind after seeing that was "Gee, can MAC hit one of those Barry Gibb high notes?" :D
"Ah-ah-ah-ah-stayin' ALIIIIIIIIIIIVE!"
Great, now I've gone and done it, Ollie. Got that song stuck in my head... :rolleyes:
The Unknown Gomer
06-12-2009, 03:45 PM
My favorite eyeroll! All together now, let's roll our eyes at these bozos...
Or in your case, roll your EYE, apparently! Are you an escapee from Monsters Inc.? :P
Or maybe Mutants for Nukes?
jesus loves me
06-12-2009, 03:47 PM
LOL! I have a friend who actually thinks the BeeGees are musical geniuses! Mac can outsing Barry any day.
NurseBettyLu
06-12-2009, 04:02 PM
Can I get a show of hands of anyone here who DOESN'T know who the Bee Gees are? :D I know there are a bunch of youngsters on the boards, so just curious if anyone is young enough that they've never heard of them before.
LOL. Still can't get over the fact that Third Day was compared to the Bee Gees. For the clothes they wore for the photo shoot. And for not SMILING! Ooooooh. *titter*
Of course the first thing that crossed my mind after seeing that was "Gee, can MAC hit one of those Barry Gibb high notes?" :D
"Ah-ah-ah-ah-stayin' ALIIIIIIIIIIIVE!"
Great, now I've gone and done it, Ollie. Got that song stuck in my head... :rolleyes:
Thanks a heap. Now so do I.
NurseBettyLu
06-12-2009, 04:09 PM
Every so often when I do a search on Third Day I come across one of "those" sites. I just chuckle, roll my eyes and move on.
Here's a video Brody Harper took of protesters outside The Rock and Worship Roadshow (tour featuring MercyMe, Jeremy Camp, Hawk Nelson, 10th Ave. North, Addison Road) venue in Baton Rouge this April: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr4DB2WNvY (oh, and go ahead and watch the video. You're not giving clicks to the anti-CCM crowd, but to the contrary ;) ).
I had to stop watching. Was scared I'd have an aneurysm laughing. They're so cliche'.
ChelsieGratzer
06-12-2009, 04:13 PM
Can I get a show of hands of anyone here who DOESN'T know who the Bee Gees are? :D I know there are a bunch of youngsters on the boards, so just curious if anyone is young enough that they've never heard of them before.
LOL. Still can't get over the fact that Third Day was compared to the Bee Gees. For the clothes they wore for the photo shoot. And for not SMILING! Ooooooh. *titter*
Of course the first thing that crossed my mind after seeing that was "Gee, can MAC hit one of those Barry Gibb high notes?" :D
"Ah-ah-ah-ah-stayin' ALIIIIIIIIIIIVE!"
Great, now I've gone and done it, Ollie. Got that song stuck in my head... :rolleyes:
I think Mac could hit that note! I seem to recall a certain video.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4MzZMVv3ZI&feature=channel_page
:D :D
jesus loves me
06-12-2009, 04:21 PM
Way to go Mac! Thanks for the link as I had never seen this.
ChelsieGratzer
06-12-2009, 04:34 PM
Way to go Mac! Thanks for the link as I had never seen this.
You're welcome! This was one of the first videos I had seen! It made me laugh so hard I cried! :D
The Unknown Gomer
06-12-2009, 04:54 PM
I think Mac could hit that note! I seem to recall a certain video.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4MzZMVv3ZI&feature=channel_page
:D :D
Nice find! I somehow missed seeing that one too.
LOL. Yeah, he and ole Barry could do a duet together, the two hitting one of those high notes at the same time could shatter stemware! :D
ChelsieGratzer
06-12-2009, 04:57 PM
Nice find! I somehow missed seeing that one too.
LOL. Yeah, he and ole Barry could do a duet together, the two hitting one of those high notes at the same time could shatter stemware! :D
Hahahahahahaha.... that would be a great sight to witness! :D
Jason
06-12-2009, 05:18 PM
LOL! I have a friend who actually thinks the BeeGees are musical geniuses!
Actually they are. Not my style, but they are.
lilmikey
06-12-2009, 05:53 PM
I tend not to read such things as this. I dont even like getting involved in these kinds of discussions. I have very strong opinions of CCM myself that are kind of harsh. Lets face it the music sucks A## and that's just on a musical level, my opinions have do with image and wishy washy aspect of CCM With that being said I do like Third Day and a few others.
You have people on both sides of the spectrum.
People who think it is all evil and bad and those heathens are going to hell, on the same token you have people on the side of "oh it's just music there's no harm in it, its fun the lyrics are Christian though" (how idiotic and blind can one be!!!!!!!!!!)
Obviously they dont have a clue about how music moves people and sets the tone in the atmosphere. The lyrics can be Jesus Jesus Jesus but the music might make me want to commit suicide or put me in a place where I dont want to be. I am a firm believer that music is a door opener to one's spirit and soul and "Christian" or no, the wrong things and even spirits can enter in through said "innocent and "harmless" music.
Let me get of the ole soapbox for a minute
I am in the middle. I listen to both secular and Christian music. Coldplay for example is a very good band and their X Y album was very very inspirational. Most of their music is uplifting and therefore I listen to it.
My guilty vice however is Phish hahaha.
I think sometimes the music itself is more important then the words because many will say Lord Lord. Its easy to say Jesus in a song but to what place does the music take you???
freakysoccer
06-12-2009, 06:40 PM
i used to get very angry when i'd read things like this...now i just pitty the person that is like this....for one they must have way too much time on their hands to be so nit pickey about 3D...and they must have never really listened to the lyrics..the first time my grandmother heard a 3D rock song she went nuts telling me how sinful rock and roll is....a few days later she overheard me actually singing lyrics to that song and she asked what it was..she aparently really related to the song...she couldn't believe it was the lyrics to that same song that just days before she was condeming...the song was consuming fire...it just saddens me that some people have views that way in my opinion whatever style of music wether it be a quartet or screamo, if it brings people to Christ then i'm for it.
Cindy
06-12-2009, 11:03 PM
I must say, I didn't read the article, but it just goes to show that every time someone is doing a good job of bringing people to the Lord- the Devil raises his ugly head in order to hinder the growth of God's Kingdom! So actually, in God's eyes- Third Day looks even better! Just as the World rejected Christ-so will it reject His servants!! (Many examples of that in the Bible)! So I say Keep up the GREAT work Third Day- your Lord & Savior is pleased in what you are doing for Him!!
ChelsieGratzer
06-12-2009, 11:18 PM
i used to get very angry when i'd read things like this...now i just pitty the person that is like this....for one they must have way too much time on their hands to be so nit pickey about 3D...and they must have never really listened to the lyrics..the first time my grandmother heard a 3D rock song she went nuts telling me how sinful rock and roll is....a few days later she overheard me actually singing lyrics to that song and she asked what it was..she aparently really related to the song...she couldn't believe it was the lyrics to that same song that just days before she was condeming...the song was consuming fire...it just saddens me that some people have views that way in my opinion whatever style of music wether it be a quartet or screamo, if it brings people to Christ then i'm for it.
Totally agree with you!!!! 100%!!
evychevy
06-14-2009, 07:14 AM
This has been around for a while .... not the first time we've seen it ...
*rolls eyes to the point of having a seizure* :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Ummm... just to clarify... were the rolling eyes directed at the nasty website or at my even bringing up the subject? I was not intending to give them any legitimacy / promotion or "free clicks"...
Where I live - this would be considered outright slanderous - which is illegal. I guess I incorrectly assumed it is not the same sort of concern in the U.S. :confused:
ChelsieGratzer
06-14-2009, 07:26 AM
Ummm... just to clarify... were the rolling eyes directed at the nasty website or at my even bringing up the subject? I was not intending to give them any legitimacy / promotion or "free clicks"...
Where I live - this would be considered outright slanderous - which is illegal. I guess I incorrectly assumed it is not the same sort of concern in the U.S. :confused:
I assume the *rolling eyes* thing is about the website. I don't think anyone would do that to a fellow boardie! ;)
Sharon
06-14-2009, 08:13 AM
the website of course!!!
ApostleThatRoks
06-14-2009, 10:34 AM
The fact that Satan is alive and well on planet Earth is hardly a newsflash. We are given clear instruction and warning in The Bible that those of us who chose to accept Christ as the resurrected Son of God who died to pay for our sins would face much resistance from non-believers. Fortunately those of us with half a skull know The Truth and Third Day...and the definite connection between them. One blaring omission by the idiot wrapped in a moron who authored this piece of insanity is their neglect to acknowledge how and where Jesus ministered. Our Lord did not merely perch Himself atop a thrown in the temple and wait for the sinners to come to Him. HE SEARCHED THEM OUT, joined them where they were, and told them to come as they are at that moment. (Obviously all "they"s can be replaced with "we"s, and more importantly "me"s.) So this author laying claim to such examples as "Jesus would never appear on The Tonight Show" is a direct contradiction to the greatest story ever told. Any questions?
ChelsieGratzer
06-14-2009, 10:40 AM
The fact that Satan is alive and well on planet Earth is hardly a newsflash. We are given clear instruction and warning in The Bible that those of us who chose to accept Christ as the resurrected Son of God who died to pay for our sins would face much resistance from non-believers. Fortunately those of us with half a skull know The Truth and Third Day...and the definite connection between them. One blaring omission by the idiot wrapped in a moron who authored this piece of insanity is their neglect to acknowledge how and where Jesus ministered. Our Lord did not merely perch Himself atop a thrown in the temple and wait for the sinners to come to Him. HE SEARCHED THEM OUT, joined them where they were, and told them to come as they are at that moment. (Obviously all "they"s can be replaced with "we"s, and more importantly "me"s.) So this author laying claim to such examples as "Jesus would never appear on The Tonight Show" is a direct contradiction to the greatest story ever told. Any questions?
Wow! Whoah... that's all I can comment on THAT!
onesawthelight
06-14-2009, 11:16 AM
The fact that Satan is alive and well on planet Earth is hardly a newsflash. We are given clear instruction and warning in The Bible that those of us who chose to accept Christ as the resurrected Son of God who died to pay for our sins would face much resistance from non-believers. Fortunately those of us with half a skull know The Truth and Third Day...and the definite connection between them. One blaring omission by the idiot wrapped in a moron who authored this piece of insanity is their neglect to acknowledge how and where Jesus ministered. Our Lord did not merely perch Himself atop a thrown in the temple and wait for the sinners to come to Him. HE SEARCHED THEM OUT, joined them where they were, and told them to come as they are at that moment. (Obviously all "they"s can be replaced with "we"s, and more importantly "me"s.) So this author laying claim to such examples as "Jesus would never appear on The Tonight Show" is a direct contradiction to the greatest story ever told. Any questions?
Good post. Idiot wrapped in a moron...hmmmm that's a good one :D :D
If you read all of his idiocy...he makes many glaring mistakes. How anyone can come up with what he did after reading the bible...is beyond me.
Is anyone reminded of the Pharrises? There are so many examples of Jesus ministering to the sinners. This guy has a lot to learn. As much as I think this guy is a blithering idiot...we should pray for him, that he would see the light.
DanGross
06-14-2009, 12:37 PM
Good post. Idiot wrapped in a moron...hmmmm that's a good one :D :D
If you read all of his idiocy...he makes many glaring mistakes. How anyone can come up with what he did after reading the bible...is beyond me.
Is anyone reminded of the Pharrises? There are so many examples of Jesus ministering to the sinners. This guy has a lot to learn. As much as I think this guy is a blithering idiot...we should pray for him, that he would see the light.
Understand up front I'm not picking on you in particular but a tone I see here. Yes, we do not agree, in fact we passionately disagree with this person's opinions. But there may be theological issues that you and I just as strongly disagree upon with both of us feeling we have a scriptural basis to our opinion. But if we started calling each other "idiot" on this message board about it we'd probably be getting warning shots from the mods.
I guess there's a thin line I see between attacking the message and the messenger. Whether he makes you mad, roll your eyes, or go "hmmm" there is a person behind those words. As hurtful as those words are we can do better than calling him names because we don't believe the same as he.
Just my thoughts.
ApostleThatRoks
06-14-2009, 12:52 PM
I stand duly reprimanded but I'm not taking my comment down. I am, after all, a sinner, saved by the same grace that's offered to the original author. I'll take my lumps should the mods see fit.
DanGross
06-14-2009, 02:57 PM
I stand duly reprimanded but I'm not taking my comment down. I am, after all, a sinner, saved by the same grace that's offered to the original author. I'll take my lumps should the mods see fit.
That previous post came out a little more severe than I intended. I'm as bad as anyone when it comes to this kind of stuff, I don't consider myself above anyone, and it's something I've personally been working on, so I'm ultra-sensitive to it. It is hard to not just call this guy a [insert derogatory name], I understand that.
He's right at the core of my struggle as a Christian: trying to understand how any of the 12 bajillion sub-denominations of Christianity can claim only they know The Exact Biblical Truth. The ones who seem to spend more of their time and energy telling other Christians how they're "wrong" and forgetting about the non-Christians out there who are the unfortunate ones who are wrong. But at the same time, with the way that they present their case (much like the subject of this thread) I would rather he be yelling at Christians rather than non-Christians, because that is the type of attitude that chases non-Christians away (in my opinion).
I'm getting too deep here. Maybe I should shut up and slink back to Twitter...I can get in less trouble when only given 140 characters. ;)
ApostleThatRoks
06-14-2009, 03:30 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself, Dan. But do keep in mind that we all struggle with some sort of issue where non-believers are concerned. The difference here, however, is that the anti-3D author didn't post here, nor did I go and post on their blog. My personal understanding of this thread was for us to voice our opinion from the perspective of Third Day brethren. And for the record I would MUCH rather expose myself in front of my peers here where y'all can better determine what exactly I need prayer and reprimand for! (:^D)
The Unknown Gomer
06-14-2009, 04:45 PM
...I'm getting too deep here. Maybe I should shut up and slink back to Twitter...I can get in less trouble when only given 140 characters. ;)
Shhh... nobody tell him about Twitlonger (www.twitlonger.com). For "when you talk too much for Twitter". ;)
DanGross
06-15-2009, 12:09 AM
Shhh... nobody tell him about Twitlonger (www.twitlonger.com). For "when you talk too much for Twitter". ;)
Ha ha! :D
NurseBettyLu
06-15-2009, 03:11 AM
As part of the twitter resistance, I feel I must say...DON'T GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!! Nooooooooo...
The Unknown Gomer
06-15-2009, 02:33 PM
As part of the twitter resistance, I feel I must say...DON'T GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!! Nooooooooo...
Why not? As Middletree's avatar used to say, they have cookies! :P
Besides, Twitter isn't that bad. By itself. But Twitter + Facebook = :eek: I don't know if it's because I mentioned I had a "Facey-Space" on my "Tweetie-Page", or if it's because I went ahead and signed up for a user name over on FB when they had the signups at 12:01 Saturday AM, but I suddenly got slammed with Friends requests in my email when I got home today. Half of whom I've never heard of before. There are more folks posting things on my FB page than I've ever posted myself.
And to think I only signed up for a FB account so I could try to figure out why one of my YouTube Todd Agnew videos got something like over 25,000 views, courtesy of "I Like" via FB, and I couldn't check it out without signing up.
Go figure.
onesawthelight
06-15-2009, 02:55 PM
Understand up front I'm not picking on you in particular but a tone I see here. Yes, we do not agree, in fact we passionately disagree with this person's opinions. But there may be theological issues that you and I just as strongly disagree upon with both of us feeling we have a scriptural basis to our opinion. But if we started calling each other "idiot" on this message board about it we'd probably be getting warning shots from the mods.
I guess there's a thin line I see between attacking the message and the messenger. Whether he makes you mad, roll your eyes, or go "hmmm" there is a person behind those words. As hurtful as those words are we can do better than calling him names because we don't believe the same as he.
Just my thoughts.
You do have a good point...I probably shouldn't have said that. The guy just irratates me. I normaly don't say that about people...I'm more apt to say it about me:D :D Anyway...the stuff this guy posted can be just as damaging to people who are Christians....say those that are struggling with a lot of doubts. Or are new Christians. If you don't have good teaching, and the support of other Christian people, this type of stuff could cause problems.
I did say we should pray for him...which I did.
*Takes lumps for being to mouthy* :D :D
Greg
onesawthelight
06-15-2009, 02:56 PM
As part of the twitter resistance, I feel I must say...DON'T GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!! Nooooooooo...
Atta girl......;)
R. Smith
06-15-2009, 05:05 PM
it may shock and suprise us Gomers, but not everyone in the world is a 3D fan. There are more than a few Christian band I do NOT like, but I'm not going to start us a anti-band site to show how much I don't like them.
All was as fans can do for the band is - keep praying for Third Day & thier ministry, and keep supporting them.
DanGross
06-16-2009, 09:54 AM
You do have a good point...I probably shouldn't have said that. The guy just irratates me. I normaly don't say that about people...I'm more apt to say it about me:D :D Anyway...the stuff this guy posted can be just as damaging to people who are Christians....say those that are struggling with a lot of doubts. Or are new Christians. If you don't have good teaching, and the support of other Christian people, this type of stuff could cause problems.
I did say we should pray for him...which I did.
*Takes lumps for being to mouthy* :D :D
Greg
LOL!
Just to give you some background you can thank my kids for this particular soapbox. There's othing quite like dealing with traffic with kids in the back seat. Kid: "Daddy, why is that guy an idiot?" Me [thinking of times I've done something as dumb when driving]: "Well, okay, he's not an idiot but he made an idiotic move." That's what got me started on thinking about how we refer to people versus their actions/words... ;)
angie1976
06-16-2009, 11:41 AM
I agree with Dan. Also, I feel sorry for the person that wrote all of that. I wonder if it's a new Christian.
evychevy
06-16-2009, 12:06 PM
So this author laying claim to such examples as "Jesus would never appear on The Tonight Show" is a direct contradiction to the greatest story ever told. Any questions?
AMEN!!! :D 'Can't truly minister to people in need while living your life "above them" on that fake pedestal... there was a lot of time wasted creating this website. How much Fruit do these people who wrote such slanderous things truly bear?
I think Third Day is an excellent example of bearing the kind of Fruit noted in John 15... proving themselves to be disciples of Jesus in earnest! ;)
evychevy
06-16-2009, 12:22 PM
it may shock and suprise us Gomers, but not everyone in the world is a 3D fan. There are more than a few Christian band I do NOT like, but I'm not going to start us a anti-band site to show how much I don't like them.
All was as fans can do for the band is - keep praying for Third Day & thier ministry, and keep supporting them.
Hahaha.... point taken and appreciated ;)
When I was first a "born again Christian" I was fearful of a lot of things because of my peers in the church group I was in at the time who were very legalistic. I guess part of my initial reaction to this particular website (apart from the slanderous depiction of some decent Christians rockers - aka "Third Day") was rooted in that previous experience.
Luke 6:27-28 (NIV)
27"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
onesawthelight
06-16-2009, 02:42 PM
LOL!
Just to give you some background you can thank my kids for this particular soapbox. There's othing quite like dealing with traffic with kids in the back seat. Kid: "Daddy, why is that guy an idiot?" Me [thinking of times I've done something as dumb when driving]: "Well, okay, he's not an idiot but he made an idiotic move." That's what got me started on thinking about how we refer to people versus their actions/words... ;)
Oh so true :) It is way to easy to do. The guy or gal following you right on your bumper on the highway...Idiot, people die this way. But it is what they did that was stupid...not them. Kids have a way of putting us in check don't they? :D
onesawthelight
06-16-2009, 02:45 PM
it may shock and suprise us Gomers, but not everyone in the world is a 3D fan. There are more than a few Christian band I do NOT like, but I'm not going to start us a anti-band site to show how much I don't like them.
All was as fans can do for the band is - keep praying for Third Day & thier ministry, and keep supporting them.
You mean there are actually people who DON'T like ThirdDay?
How could this happen...I guess they just don't know any better :P :D
Rainlily
06-17-2009, 10:25 AM
it may shock and suprise us Gomers, but not everyone in the world is a 3D fan. There are more than a few Christian band I do NOT like, but I'm not going to start us a anti-band site to show how much I don't like them.
All was as fans can do for the band is - keep praying for Third Day & thier ministry, and keep supporting them.
Yes, and pray for the clueless person that posted that site & the poor souls who might be deceived when reading it...that's the saddest part!
Too bad the site doesn't allow comments to be posted. We could sure set 'em straight!
I saw a site similar to this a few years ago bashing Third Day for encouraging young people to "wanna be rockstars" & for 3D attending the concert of a secular band that cursed on stage (U2.) :eek:
You mean there are actually people who DON'T like ThirdDay?
How could this happen...I guess they just don't know any better :P :D
My thoughts exactly! ;)
sherri
06-18-2009, 09:40 PM
I tend not to read such things as this. I dont even like getting involved in these kinds of discussions. I have very strong opinions of CCM myself that are kind of harsh. Lets face it the music sucks A## and that's just on a musical level, my opinions have do with image and wishy washy aspect of CCM With that being said I do like Third Day and a few others.
You have people on both sides of the spectrum.
People who think it is all evil and bad and those heathens are going to hell, on the same token you have people on the side of "oh it's just music there's no harm in it, its fun the lyrics are Christian though" (how idiotic and blind can one be!!!!!!!!!!)
Obviously they dont have a clue about how music moves people and sets the tone in the atmosphere. The lyrics can be Jesus Jesus Jesus but the music might make me want to commit suicide or put me in a place where I dont want to be. I am a firm believer that music is a door opener to one's spirit and soul and "Christian" or no, the wrong things and even spirits can enter in through said "innocent and "harmless" music.
Agree. Not all christian music is good and not all secular music is bad. You see a lot of harmful stuff in music sung by christians the same as you see a lot of harmful stuff done by christians in general. To excuse it because it's 'christians' doing it just makes christianity in general look bad.
Interestingly enough, the ones who defend unhealthy stuff in secular music because they like listening to it are usually the worst offenders with christian music. It's a case of I can do what I want because God loves me. It's just compromise.
It's a matter of sifting through to find out whats good in all of it.
The guilt is on both sides of the fence.
sherri
06-18-2009, 09:48 PM
And I have to agree with Jason as well that the BeeGees are musical geniuses. I've never really listened to them either but they are.
A lot of musicians from past eras were. They didn't get their place on the charts through waving their cleavage and lip syncing. (or just lip syncing)
Music styles change though, and if you market yourself through whatevers cool in a particular era, when the era shifts, you'll be chucked out with it. Doesn't matter how talented you are.
One of the problems of being marketed along with your music. And christians do it as well. They might do it less, but they still do it.
sherri
06-18-2009, 09:53 PM
PS. Popular musicians almost always say that 'it's all about the music' and complain when people are 'judging them' 'apart from their music'. But if it really is all about the music then why is their face on the cover?
PPS. And you can make excuses like 'so people will be more likely to buy concert tickets because they 'associate' our faces with our music', but yeah.
Shonsu
06-19-2009, 04:51 AM
I think that we have to use discernment in music as in all things. I have been to two 3D concerts so far and it has been an entire evening of worshiping God each time so I believe it to be good for us. The author of the article has evidently not listened to many (or any at all) of Third Day's songs for there are many that talk about the gospel (take Creed for example) and most give glory to God. All the author talks about is the Third Day web site, the band's appearance, and some interviews and not about the music itself (he only talks about CCM in general). So he does not have a leg to stand on.
okiwillbeme
11-22-2009, 07:37 AM
I came to Christian Music totally by accident, I was searching on the radio for
something new, I was sick of listening to people cursing and singing about,
shaking their butts all over town, , and immoral ,, "Disc Jockeys ".
I never knew that Christian music existed,,, I had been a bad girl and
just made a lifestyle change and put God in my life before everything. I fell in
love with the songs I was hearing I don't know the first band I heard, all I
knew this was it, I found what I was looking for no foul anything, then I heard
that voice, singing Wire, I went to Walmart and picked up Wire and Wherever
You Are, that was my hook, and became which I hate to admit a compulsive
Third Day addict. This is where I think that website was trying to get his point
across, that maybe we draw away from God, I know that if it is not one thing
it is another thing, TV, Computers, Children, Relationships, Work, I can go on
and on about, what takes us away, from not giving God our all, so the man
or women has a point, we all don't have to agree or disagree, you know your
relationship with God, and you are the one who has to answer to God on the
day of Judgment. So I can feel good about going to 4 Third Day shows since
2006 being my first, and going 2 times in Jan. to Winter Jam, they are going
to be kinda local. One about 10 min. from my house and the other one about
3 hours from home I am an addict and I may need a support group lol. Just
remember we all have Freedom Of Speech, unless someone takes that away.
Asking God for protection from harm and putting on his Armor for battle. Amen
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