View Full Version : Direct Challenge to Roe V. Wade coming from N. Dakota.
cheewiee
02-18-2009, 05:32 AM
http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId= 333726
If you don't like reading links, basicly the story says that this law, stands as a direct challenge to Roe V. Wade, lawmakers in ND say are compatable with Roe V. Wade, in that they state in this bill that life begins at conception, thereby making abortion akin to murder.
So, It seems, that this may be the oppty for the Bush Legacy to really be tested with a potential SC challenge.
If this law passes, and is supported by SCOTUS, Bush's legacy will receive a huge boost with Roberts and Alito nominations.
HumanityisSaved
02-18-2009, 05:35 AM
May it be Lord, may it be!
Valpo
02-18-2009, 06:00 AM
even so, with the potential passing of FOCA it seems although this will make it inconvenient it wont stop the travesty
also, do lawmakers have in place post pregnancy plans for unwanted babies and/or women who have them?
rossid
02-18-2009, 06:27 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/
Jesuslove
02-18-2009, 09:17 AM
also, do lawmakers have in place post pregnancy plans for unwanted babies and/or women who have them?
That's my main concern. What will our government do to support the already-strained child welfare system?
HumanityisSaved
02-18-2009, 09:24 AM
That's my main concern. What will our government do to support the already-strained child welfare system?
Indeed, dead babies are a heckuva lot easier to support.
Valpo
02-18-2009, 09:33 AM
Indeed, dead babies are a heckuva lot easier to support.
Well it's great to save the life of a baby but then to stop short of caring there is no good and that is one of the (many) grave sins of evangelical christianity in america: neglect of the born. I'm all for ending abortions in this country, but let's please make sure the resources and options are available for those mothers and for those children being brought into the world.
Jesuslove
02-18-2009, 11:42 AM
Well it's great to save the life of a baby but then to stop short of caring there is no good and that is one of the (many) grave sins of evangelical christianity in america: neglect of the born. I'm all for ending abortions in this country, but let's please make sure the resources and options are available for those mothers and for those children being brought into the world.
Well put. I don't think I could have said it better.
Well put. I don't think I could have said it better.Doesn't change the fact that murder is in fact a greater evil than neglect. One is irreparable (that would be murder in case you weren't sure).
Pouye
02-18-2009, 02:43 PM
Doesn't change the fact that murder is in fact a greater evil than neglect. One is irreparable (that would be murder in case you weren't sure).
I agree. Also, neglect happens to both rich kids and poor kids. I was raised extremely poor, but I was not neglected as a child. What does neglect mean?
I had clothes, food, and shelter. I had to apply for financial aid and work to go to a community college, but I graduated. I've never once gone hungry, but I've had to eat basic (yet nutritious) foods (like beans, rice and potatoes, veggies, ground beef, etc.) quite a bit. I'm not physically unhealthy, nor have I suffered any health problems from eating cheap, yet basic foods.
How poor was I raised? For a time (over a year) I lived in a 35 foot school bus, along with my 5 siblings and parents. That's right -- 8 people living in 250 square feet. Was I depressed? No. Was I happy? Yes. Did we have a steady income? No. Did I have to work sometime to make ends meet, even though I was only 14? Yes. Was it terrible for me? No. Did my parents love me? Yes. Did they do all they could to make our meager existence a good thing? Yes. Am I bitter? No. Am I glad I wasn't aborted? YES!!!!!
Rock
Valpo
02-18-2009, 05:47 PM
What I mean is it's great being pro life but please do not forget that means after the baby is born too. All I'm saying.
What I mean is it's great being pro life but please do not forget that means after the baby is born too. All I'm saying.
I know. I know. But some use the idea that killing "unwanted" babies is "better" than having neglected children , and it is absurd. It's not "great being pro life" it's biblically mandatory--as is caring for the poor and the needy. We can't forget about children in need once they are born but we can't use the fact that we do (sometimes) to permit a moral atrocity.
kiwisongbird
02-19-2009, 12:43 PM
I wanted to protest outside abortion clinics years ago, but felt I could not unless I was willing to take a baby into my home.... I never did it.... I think the church needs to rise up in this area... there will be a lot of unwanted babies that God definitely wants.... will the church families be willing to take these babies????
Hey Rock, thanks for sharing - way cool testimony!!! We see families here every day that are very, very poor but happy....
Valpo
02-19-2009, 03:38 PM
I know. I know. But some use the idea that killing "unwanted" babies is "better" than having neglected children , and it is absurd. It's not "great being pro life" it's biblically mandatory--as is caring for the poor and the needy. We can't forget about children in need once they are born but we can't use the fact that we do (sometimes) to permit a moral atrocity.
fair enough, and I know the point you are making is quite sound.
rossid
02-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Just heard an ad on the local Christian radio www.pulse995.com by LDS(yes Latter Day Saints - I DUNNO WHY IT IS ON THIS STATION!) that adoption is win-win-win for birth mom/parents-adopters-child(ren).
Now this is what many out here have been talking about, kind of, get this adoption thing working.
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