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Jesuslove
02-16-2009, 01:09 AM
Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who sits on the Senate Budget Committee, said he wouldn’t reject the idea of nationalizing U.S. banks.
“I’m very much afraid that any program to salvage the banks is going to require the government,” the South Carolina senator said today in an interview on ABC’s “This Week” program. “I would not take off the idea of the nationalizing the banks.”

Bank of America Corp.’s stock-price descent, down about 60 percent this year, gained momentum earlier this month on speculation that the government might seize the company. The U.S. already agreed to inject $45 billion and protect the Charlotte, North Carolina-based lender from losses on $118 billion of loans and securities after it bought Merrill Lynch & Co.

Citigroup Inc., whose shares have dropped 87 percent in a year, needed $20 billion in government money in November on top of an earlier $25 billion injection. That wasn’t enough to keep it from announcing plans to split itself into two companies after posting a $8.29 billion fourth-quarter loss, completing its worst year, as the credit crisis eroded mortgage-bond prices and customers missed more loan payments.

Graham, without naming any banks, said “toxic” assets spread throughout the banking and finance sectors may require further government help of a kind not envisioned a year ago.

“To me, banking and housing are the root cause of this problem,” Graham said. “If you don’t stabilize housing, you’re never going to fix this problem. You’ve got a huge inventory problem. You’ve got foreclosures that have to be dealt with. And that goes back to banks.”

Democratic Senator Charles Schumer, speaking on the same program, said he isn’t in favor of nationalization for banks.

“I think government is not good at making these decisions as to who gets loans and how this happens,” the New York senator said.

Representative Maxine Waters said on ABC that “the word nationalization scares the hell out of people, and so the debate has opened up now, and that’s good.”

“Citibank is probably almost nationalized with the amount of money we’ve put in it,” the California Democrat said. “But I don’t think that we are ready to move to the point of a formalized nationalized banking program yet.”

Howlin' Wolf
02-16-2009, 05:26 AM
and........Obama isnt in support of this as well?

Too many people around here are naive enough to think that a change in parties equals a change in status quo. It does not.

Sam!
02-16-2009, 08:23 AM
Just because a republican does it doesn't make it "republican style." But hey, why try to be engaging and really discuss the issue when you can fling rhetoric around, right?

Jesuslove
02-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Just because a republican does it doesn't make it "republican style." But hey, why try to be engaging and really discuss the issue when you can fling rhetoric around, right?

I've heard serveral Republicans say Obama was socialist. I personally think we need to solve this crisis no matter whether we are Democrat, Republican or Independent. We need to weigh all potential solutions, although I don't think nationalizing the banking system is a viable option. I thought the Republicans were all about smaller government.

Pouye
02-16-2009, 04:14 PM
I've heard serveral Republicans say Obama was socialist. I personally think we need to solve this crisis no matter whether we are Democrat, Republican or Independent. We need to weigh all potential solutions, although I don't think nationalizing the banking system is a viable option. I thought the Republicans were all about smaller government.

There are all sorts of Democrats and Republicans. They aren't the same. There are some (not many) liberal Republicans and some (not many) conservative Democrats. Some change parties to suit their careers, too.

Rock

Sam!
02-17-2009, 12:21 AM
I've heard serveral Republicans say Obama was socialist.Seriously: what does that have to do with the story you posted?
I personally think we need to solve this crisis no matter whether we are Democrat, Republican or Independent.Agreed. At the same time, if we continue to focus on our labels of ourselves and others, we are putting up barriers to working toogether.
We need to weigh all potential solutions, although I don't think nationalizing the banking system is a viable option.Agreed. Everything needs to be considered.
thought the Republicans were all about smaller government.This is just an inflammatory remark. I've met democrats who are racists, who don't like expanding government welfare, who are against abortion, etc. There are all kinds of democrats and all kinds of republicans, and all kinds of independents.

Jesuslove
02-17-2009, 01:26 AM
This is just an inflammatory remark. I've met democrats who are racists, who don't like expanding government welfare, who are against abortion, etc. There are all kinds of democrats and all kinds of republicans, and all kinds of independents.

I said nothing wrong. Most Republicans are fiscally conservative. That's not a slam; it's a fact.

HumanityisSaved
02-17-2009, 01:47 AM
You mean Lindsey Grahamnisty? He's about as Conservative as Cojo! Well maybe a little more conservative than Cojo but I'd have to see him in a dress to know for sure.

Sam!
02-17-2009, 02:10 AM
I said nothing wrong. Most Republicans are fiscally conservative. That's not a slam; it's a fact.
You're characterizing tens of millions of people, assuming they all think and act the same, then pointing out how one guy is different, then implying we're all hypocrites. If you don't think that's wrong then there's nothing more to be said here.

Jesuslove
02-17-2009, 02:33 AM
You mean Lindsey Grahamnisty? He's about as Conservative as Cojo! Well maybe a little more conservative than Cojo but I'd have to see him in a dress to know for sure.

Are you suggesting Lindsey Graham is a closet case? That would be ironic especially since SC is probably the most conservative state.

Jesuslove
02-17-2009, 02:35 AM
You're characterizing tens of millions of people, assuming they all think and act the same, then pointing out how one guy is different, then implying we're all hypocrites. If you don't think that's wrong then there's nothing more to be said here.

Dude, you are reading way too much into what I wrote. All I said is that most Republicans are fiscally conservative. How is that a negative?

Sam!
02-17-2009, 06:19 AM
Dude, you are reading way too much into what I wrote. All I said is that most Republicans are fiscally conservative. How is that a negative?
I don't think I am. Most republicans say they are in favor of smaller government, those most republican lawmakers do not behave that way.

But what "most" republicans has nothing to do with what Sen. Graham does or thinks. Pointing out he's an anomaly means that his openness to considering the nationalization of banks only means he's NOT thinking like most republicans.

cheewiee
02-17-2009, 06:49 AM
I don't think I am. Most republicans say they are in favor of smaller government, those most republican lawmakers do not behave that way.

But what "most" republicans has nothing to do with what Sen. Graham does or thinks. Pointing out he's an anomaly means that his openness to considering the nationalization of banks only means he's NOT thinking like most republicans.

I think the point of Senator Graham's comments, is that we have essentially started down that path, and in order to save our financial system, my need to take it that step further.

I don't think its something he wants, so much, as something he sees as inevitable...