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BurningSon
09-05-2008, 10:00 PM
I wrote this song, tell me what you think please.

NOW THAT YOUR GONE:
I remember when I was little.
You use to hold me at night when I would cry.
You would sing a song to calm my fears.
You would wipe away all my tears.

Chorus:
So where are you now?
Can someone please show me how?
How I can move on,
Now that your gone.
Give me peace when I want to die.
And please tell me why?
Now that your gone.

I never dreamed,
Where I would be.
Without you here,
To help give me peace.

Repeat Chorus:

Bridge:
Your smiling face,
Your warm embrace.
Oh how I miss them.
Your loving words,
How you reassured.
Mama I remember when.

Repeat Chorus 2X:

Mama, I will always love you.

Rainlily
09-06-2008, 05:49 PM
It's nice. Sounds like a country song.

I'm not criticizing the song, but grammatically speaking, it should be "now that you're gone," as in you are gone, rather than your which is a possessive pronoun, as in "your song."

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 05:50 PM
It's nice. Sounds like a country song.

I'm not criticizing the song, but grammatically speaking, it should be "now that you're gone," as in you are gone, rather than your which is a possessive pronoun, as in "your song."

Ah, thanks for the tip.

Jason
09-12-2008, 05:58 PM
Josh, is this a verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus song? If so, verse two doesn't match verse one at all. If it isn't, I have no idea what structure you're aiming for.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:19 PM
Josh, is this a verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus song? If so, verse two doesn't match verse one at all. If it isn't, I have no idea what structure you're aiming for.

Well, It is how you put it, but I have a different style of writing. Before I wrote this song, I prayed and asked God to give me the words to it, and this is what flowed

Howlin' Wolf
09-12-2008, 06:28 PM
sounds like a kelly clarkson song.

lilmikey
09-12-2008, 06:32 PM
ouch! you would say something like that

quit making fun of the man's song:eek:

Jason
09-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Well, It is how you put it, but I have a different style of writing. Before I wrote this song, I prayed and asked God to give me the words to it, and this is what flowed

As written, it will be very difficult for anyone to put music to as you basically have four different word groupings.

lilmikey
09-12-2008, 06:37 PM
As written, it will be very difficult for anyone to put music to as you basically have four different word groupings.

speaking technically yes

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:39 PM
As written, it will be very difficult for anyone to put music to as you basically have four different word groupings.

Maybe, I can always reword it if I want to and when it gets time for music to get put to it, I will have my melody writer help me do that

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:40 PM
sounds like a kelly clarkson song.

I was thinking Carrie Underwood:)

Jason
09-12-2008, 06:44 PM
Maybe, I can always reword it if I want to and when it gets time for music to get put to it, I will have my melody writer help me do that

Have you studied song structure?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Have you studied song structure?

Nope, my gift is God given.

Jason
09-12-2008, 06:48 PM
Nope, my gift is God given.

And God doesn't want you to study?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:50 PM
And God doesn't want you to study?

Study I do by how other songwriters write their material. I don't copy nothing, I just look at the style of writing.

Jason
09-12-2008, 06:52 PM
Study I do by how other songwriters write their material. I don't copy nothing, I just look at the style of writing.

Ok, who do you know who writes with this structure?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:54 PM
Check out this song I wrote a while back.


In My Blue Skies:

Some days are filled with emotions for me.
Some days, I just wanna cry.
But deep down, what I feel on the inside.
I just want to be free.

Chorus:
No longer held down by my fear.
No longer to cry no more tears.
I see the sky deep down inside.
I see the sun shining so bright.
I'm gonna learn to live on the inside.
I'm gonna learn where I can be.
In my blue skies. In my blue skies.

Healing never felt so great.
The power of a higher fate.
The love that I feel is so real.

Repeat Chorus:

Bridge:
The power that I feel.
Down inside my soul.
Is a love thats learning to flow.

Repeat Chorus 2X:

No clouds over my head today.
No reason to ask why.
I'm gonna live today.
In my blue skies.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:55 PM
Ok, who do you know who writes with this structure?

I never said anyone does, all I said was when the mood hits me, I write and this is what came.

Go to this link and read:

http://poetry.com/dotnet/P6232617/999/7/display.aspx

Howlin' Wolf
09-12-2008, 06:58 PM
Check out this song I wrote a while back.


In My Blue Skies:

Some days are filled with emotions for me.
Some days, I just wanna cry.
But deep down, what I feel on the inside.
I just want to be free.

Chorus:
No longer held down by my fear.
No longer to cry no more tears.
I see the sky deep down inside.
I see the sun shining so bright.
I'm gonna learn to live on the inside.
I'm gonna learn where I can be.
In my blue skies. In my blue skies.

Healing never felt so great.
The power of a higher fate.
The love that I feel is so real.

Repeat Chorus:

Bridge:
The power that I feel.
Down inside my soul.
Is a love thats learning to flow.

Repeat Chorus 2X:

No clouds over my head today.
No reason to ask why.
I'm gonna live today.
In my blue skies.

sounds like a Michael W. Smith song

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 06:58 PM
sounds like a Michael W. Smith song

Could be. You never know what God has in store for my writing

Howlin' Wolf
09-12-2008, 07:02 PM
you should write a song about infralapsarianism. I'll put music to it.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:06 PM
you should write a song about infralapsarianism. I'll put music to it.

Huh?

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:06 PM
I'm not going to argue whether or not God gave you a gift of songwriting, because I can't. That's between you and God. But I will say that if songwriting is your passion, you may want to study it a bit more. If you'd like, I can suggest some books. If not, that's cool.

To show you that I'm not just full of hot air, I'm a songwriter also, who also truly believes God gave him that gift. I've been seriously songwriting since 1997 and have had songs recorded on CDs by three Christian artists. Also, an Atlanta-based band is currently using my latest song, but doesn't have a CD yet.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:08 PM
I'm not going to argue whether or not God gave you a gift of songwriting, because I can't. That's between you and God. But I will say that if songwriting is your passion, you may want to study it a bit more. If you'd like, I can suggest some books. If not, that's cool.

To show you that I'm not just full of hot air, I'm a songwriter also, who also truly believes God gave him that gift. I've been seriously songwriting since 1997 and have had songs recorded on CDs by three Christian artists. Also, an Atlanta-based band is currently using my latest song, but doesn't have a CD yet.

How did you get your stuff recorded? I do study, and I have submitted a song to a company who told me I am a very gifted writier, who shows outstanding hit potential.

Howlin' Wolf
09-12-2008, 07:09 PM
i write songs too

www.myspace.com/thebattleofmeadowbridge

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:10 PM
i write songs too

www.myspace.com/thebattleofmeadowbridge

I dont have speakers on this computer, so I can't listen to them

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:17 PM
How did you get your stuff recorded? I do study, and I have submitted a song to a company who told me I am a very gifted writier, who shows outstanding hit potential.

The first artist I met through an e-mail list for Christian songwriters. He co-wrote one song with me and he recorded it and another of my songs on his sophomore CD. He was producing a CD for a female artist named Kaly. She liked two of my songs and recorded them on her CD. The third artist found one of my songs on the internet and recorded it. I've used two different publishers.

Do you want the book titles?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:18 PM
The first artist I met through an e-mail list for Christian songwriters. He co-wrote one song with me and he recorded it and another of my songs on his sophomore CD. He was producing a CD for a female artist named Kaly. She liked two of my songs and recorded them on her CD. The third artist found one of my songs on the internet and recorded it. I've used two different publishers.

Do you want the book titles?

Sure. Are these artists well known?

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Sure. Are these artists well known?

Ok, give me a day as I'm about to head out.

The three that used my songs? No, but money is money and a song credit is a song credit, right?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:23 PM
Ok, give me a day as I'm about to head out.

The three that used my songs? No, but money is money and a song credit is a song credit, right?

If you want to get paid for it yes. How much did you get paid for your stuff getting recorded, if you dont mind sharing? Send that in a pm if you would, not post it here unless you want.

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:34 PM
If you want to get paid for it yes. How much did you get paid for your stuff getting recorded? Send that in a pm if you would, not post it here unless you want.

The standard mechanical usage fee, which at that time was 7.5 cents per song per CD. So if the artist records 1000 CDs that's $75 per song. I believe it's over 9 cents now.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:36 PM
The standard mechanical usage fee, which at that time was 7.5 cents per song per CD. So if the artist records 1000 CDs that's $75 per song. I believe it's over 9 cents now.

Kewl.

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:40 PM
Kewl.

Yeah. Rates are standard for an artist recording your songs. It's so songwriters don't get ripped off. You won't make a lot of money as a songwriter unless you have a lot of songs recorded by artists or get on a high-selling CD.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:45 PM
Yeah. Rates are standard for an artist recording your songs. It's so songwriters don't get ripped off. You won't make a lot of money as a songwriter unless you have a lot of songs recorded by artists or get on a high-selling CD.

And, score a number 1 hit on the secular charts. Over 500,000 in royalties in just the first year of becoming a #1

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:48 PM
And, score a number 1 hit on the secular charts. Over 500,000 in royalties in just the first year of becoming a #1

Depends on how many CDs were sold.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:51 PM
Depends on how many CDs were sold.

Not so much. You will make money off each unit sold, but in royalites collected from your song becoming a #1 hit, you will collect 500,000 automatically. The rest comes from each unit sold, ect.

Jason
09-12-2008, 07:52 PM
Not so much. You will make money off each unit sold, but in royalites collected from your song becoming a #1 hit, you will collect 500,000 automatically. The rest comes from each unit sold, ect.

Where'd you get that info about $500,000 automatically?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 07:55 PM
Where'd you get that info about $500,000 automatically?

I have done my research.

Jason
09-12-2008, 08:01 PM
I have done my research.

Ok, this might be what you're saying, but notice you split it with your publisher:

. Performance royalties

These song royalties are earned whenever the songwriter's composition is performed publicly such as: on the radio, television, bars, roller skating rinks, bowling alleys, etc.

Let's take the above example and imagine your song became a top ten hit on pop/top 40 radio:

Over a year's period these song royalties would be approx. $500,000/ $250,000 each for the songwriter and music publisher.

The total for a songwriter in the above scenario is already $295,000. The music publisher gets the other $295,000! And that is not including singles sales royalties, foreign royalties, sheet music royalties, synchronization licenses, and several other song royalty sources for songwriters.

So, in reality just one hit song will earn approx. $350,000 to $600,000 for a songwriter and the same amount for a music publisher during a year's time frame. Imagine if you have three more songwriter credits on this CD and one more hit!


Now if you'd only spend as much time studying how to write a song as how much you can make as a songwriter.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 08:04 PM
Now if you'd only spend as much time studying how to write a song as how much you can make as a songwriter.

Got what you mean, but this was uncalled for. You do like to critisize people a lot I have noticed.

Jason
09-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Got what you mean, but this was uncalled for. You do like to critisize people a lot I have noticed.

If you can't take criticism on your songwriting, you will never make it.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 08:08 PM
If you can't take criticism on your songwriting, you will never make it.

Dude, I do, but you dish a lot out. As with my thread about ghosts, you like to do that toward me it seems.

Jason
09-12-2008, 08:10 PM
Dude, I do, but you dish a lot out. As with my thread about ghosts, you like to do that toward me it seems.

So two threads equals "criticize a lot"?

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 08:18 PM
So two threads equals "criticize a lot"?

When they are the only ones you've replied to of mine yes.

Jason
09-12-2008, 08:19 PM
When they are the only ones you've replied to of mine yes.

Sorry you feel that way.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Sorry you feel that way.

Thank you. Try being a little more supportive without being so critical of things. You do both quite well, but lean more toward to supportive side of things.

Jason
09-12-2008, 08:23 PM
Thank you. Try being a little more supportive without being so critical of things. You do both quite well, but lean more toward to supportive side of things.

No problem.

BurningSon
09-12-2008, 08:24 PM
No problem.

Thanks.

lilmikey
09-13-2008, 06:08 AM
Got what you mean, but this was uncalled for. You do like to critisize people a lot I have noticed.

Jason doesn't criticize people at all or very rarely when he does and when he does its constructive. And it sounds pretty constructive to me

Howlin' Wolf
09-13-2008, 02:40 PM
there is no set structure for songwriting.

spontaneity should be the ruler of the day!