Mass High School - Pregnancy Pact Girls

[Evanescence]

Just saw this.....a bunch of teen girls got together and made a pact to get pregant and have a baby. 17 are pregant....their not sure how many were in the pact.

This is SAD on one level....but GOOD on another.

The good thing IMO is that they'll be a voice for PRO-LIFE and perhaps others will see that carrying a child is not such a bad thing. They could be a voice against abortion....

The bad? They might be bad moms and raise kids that will suffer....perhaps without fathers.

Some of the teens are only 15-16....

Overall I think its stupid...

[danbos]

I just read in the paper that none of the girls are over 16, and one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy.

[Howlin' Wolf]

I just read in the paper that none of the girls are over 16, and one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy.

this world.

[mcgreen311]

Just saw this.....a bunch of teen girls got together and made a pact to get pregant and have a baby. 17 are pregant....their not sure how many were in the pact.

This is SAD on one level....but GOOD on another.

The good thing IMO is that they'll be a voice for PRO-LIFE and perhaps others will see that carrying a child is not such a bad thing. They could be a voice against abortion....

The bad? They might be bad moms and raise kids that will suffer....perhaps without fathers.

Some of the teens are only 15-16....

Overall I think its stupid...
I don't how much of a positive voice for pro-life they will be. I think some who are already on the abortion side could throw this in their arsenal.

[Evanescence]

Yeh, i don't know...its a messed up deal...

no parenting for sure...kids making a pact to have kids?

Some say they are doing it for fashion...like they think its cool cause of Jamie Lynn Spears is preggo...and JUNO as well....

Again, kids watching too much damm TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jason]

Sorry, it's not good in any way.

[Gaudete]

I just can't imagine what's in store for these girls, and especially those precious babies.

[DareDevil]

I just can't imagine what's in store for these girls, and especially those precious babies.
Hopefully 2 well meaning and capable (grand)parents for each of the girls...

[lilmikey]

the liberal indoctrination centers AKA schools that they are at would go nuts if they took a vow of abstinence:eek: :D

[lilmikey]

I don't how much of a positive voice for pro-life they will be. I think some who are already on the abortion side could throw this in their arsenal.

the sin of fornication far outweighs any "good" that will come of this mess. But who knows??????

[rossid]

I got the 'discussion' on NBC after the story. The pregnancy psycholigist, or whatever she is, what a weird profession, stressed the lack of contraception. She did say something smart in that parents need to do sex education.

[sandie]

Do you have sex education in high schools? We do, as I've taught some to migrants. On the other hand, with a pact for teenagers, it wouldn't make any difference, as peer influence is so important.

I guess these girls will be busy for many years to come!!!

[rossid]

From a public school perspective:

Fourth grade this year is when our ten year old heard about a woman's 'monthly' issue.

I want to say seventh grade for sex ed.

So that would be two years BEFORE high school. Do you have twelve grades too before high school graduation?

[kiwisongbird]

Not the school's responsibility - I wouldn't want anyone telling my kids all the details about sex. We've mostly chatted about things as they came up - our first son knew about menstruation when he was six - our second when he was ten and our third is eleven and doesn't know - if parents teach their kids this stuff then they learn it when they are supposed to learn it - and it's different for each child...

PS: When teaching them about menstruation I've also taught them about PMS/PMT and encouraged them to know how to make a cup of tea for the female involved! :) :) Making them good future husbands! :)

A while ago I wasn't actually sure how much the boys knew, so I ran through a book with them, and they all knew about how babies were made etc... somehow through the years we had taught them...

[sandie]

Sharon: It's fine for the school to spell out the anatomical details about sex and reproduction, but it's the parent/s responsibility to outline their moral stance. Public schools won't provide an ethical foundation, though Christian schools obviously will.

[sandie]

From a public school perspective:

Fourth grade this year is when our ten year old heard about a woman's 'monthly' issue.

I want to say seventh grade for sex ed.

So that would be two years BEFORE high school. Do you have twelve grades too before high school graduation?

Australian schools have a total of 13 years of Primary and High School education, from 5 to 18 years of age. This is organised differently in some states, in terms of the age at which students enter high school, but the total remains the same. In New South Wales, we have 7 years of Primary School, then 6 years of High School education.

[lilmikey]

Sharon: It's fine for the school to spell out the anatomical details about sex and reproduction, but it's the parent/s responsibility to outline their moral stance. Public schools won't provide an ethical foundation, though Christian schools obviously will.

I for one dont think its right that schools teach sex ed that should be left up to the parent and the parent only. I do realize however that the topic of sexuality and reproduction will come up especially in a science or health class. But to have a class specifically dedicated to sexuality is wrong and inappropriate in my opinion I also think that at the very least the parent should have the say wether they think their child should take such a class. Thats my opinion anyway

[Howlin' Wolf]

I for one dont think its right that schools teach sex ed that should be left up to the parent and the parent only. I do realize however that the topic of sexuality and reproduction will come up especially in a science or health class. But to have a class specifically dedicated to sexuality is wrong and inappropriate in my opinion I also think that at the very least the parent should have the say wether they think their child should take such a class. Thats my opinion anyway

this is just asanine.

[Evanescence]

this is just asanine.

yeah, says the 18 yr old....lol...

[Mandy Robbins]

having been an unwed mother myself. Here is the hope that I have. Having a baby made me grow up FAST. The fact that I haven't seen her DNA doner since I told him I was having his baby, made me realize I had to stop messing up my life so I wouldn't mess up hers.

I took her to church from the time she was 3 days old because I didn't want her turning out like me, and I got saved. And God put my life back together.
And believe me, I had trashed it! And I didn't have Sex education, so that wasn't at fault. I just had a God shaped hole in my life, and I was trying to fill it with whatever came along, the more dangerous, the better.(except drugs, for some reason I didn't try that)

But He can do the same for these 17 girls, as he did for me, and their 17 babies, that's 34 souls. It doesn't matter how they got to the point their at. I pray that someone reaches out to them in love and shows them that there is a place they belong, and a family they are welcome in. And I pray that it's a solid church where they can grow.

[Evanescence]

having been an unwed mother myself. Here is the hope that I have. Having a baby made me grow up FAST. The fact that I haven't seen her DNA doner since I told him I was having his baby, made me realize I had to stop messing up my life so I wouldn't mess up hers.

I took her to church from the time she was 3 days old because I didn't want her turning out like me, and I got saved. And God put my life back together.
And believe me, I had trashed it! And I didn't have Sex education, so that wasn't at fault. I just had a God shaped hole in my life, and I was trying to fill it with whatever came along, the more dangerous, the better.(except drugs, for some reason I didn't try that)

But He can do the same for these 17 girls, as he did for me, and their 17 babies, that's 34 souls. It doesn't matter how they got to the point their at. I pray that someone reaches out to them in love and shows them that there is a place they belong, and a family they are welcome in. And I pray that it's a solid church where they can grow.

Nice. Thanks for your honest testimony... :)

[Mandy Robbins]

Well, no matter what happens, God can use it for His glory.

[Jason]

Well, no matter what happens, God can use it for His glory.

Yes He can.

[kiwisongbird]

That's true, thanks for your testimony...

I really can't help thinking how silly they all have been, but then girls that age are a bit silly aren't they?

We just borrowed Juno to watch, I guess it makes getting pregnant look fun rather than really showing how it is for such young mothers... I think I'll watch it with my kids and use it for a talking point... :)

I don't think that teaching kids the physical aspect of bodies and how reproduction occurs is bad, but to teach sexuality is definitely wrong in schools IMHO (well not so H opinion)... in NZ schools they teach kids how to put on condoms using carrots (I think it's carrots...)

I'm glad our kids aren't in school - but still know that many, many parents don't teach their kids enough - it's in our boys' faces as we live in a city where male and female prostitution is a tourist attraction and where child prostitution is a major problem and where men turn into women right before our very eyes.....we need to make sure we teach our boys stuff before they learn somewhere else!!!!

Living in this world, I think we need to ensure that our kids do learn about the various ways of expressing sexuality nowadays, because if we don't teach them, they will eventually have it thrown up in their faces and that could be dangerous for them...

[sandie]

I for one dont think its right that schools teach sex ed that should be left up to the parent and the parent only. I do realize however that the topic of sexuality and reproduction will come up especially in a science or health class. But to have a class specifically dedicated to sexuality is wrong and inappropriate in my opinion I also think that at the very least the parent should have the say wether they think their child should take such a class. Thats my opinion anyway

In Australia (and the New South Wales Syllabus, under which I've taught), Personal Development, Health and PE have a specific unit on Sexuality and Reproduction. In the Intensive English Centres, some of the lessons were taught as single sex lessons and parents were entitled to have their children excempted. Some Moslem parents did.

As I've said, if you want to impart your values to your child, then teach the child at home, as there are so many values that are acceptable in society now.

[in hiding]

I for one dont think its right that schools teach sex ed that should be left up to the parent and the parent only. I do realize however that the topic of sexuality and reproduction will come up especially in a science or health class. But to have a class specifically dedicated to sexuality is wrong and inappropriate in my opinion I also think that at the very least the parent should have the say wether they think their child should take such a class. Thats my opinion anyway

i know in the school system i was in parents had to sign a statement saying the kid could be in the sex ed class or could not be in the sex ed class. I wish that parents would talk to their kids about sex and open up dialog along those channels...but it's much easier and much less awkward to have the government teach about sex.

[lilmikey]

In Australia (and the New South Wales Syllabus, under which I've taught), Personal Development, Health and PE have a specific unit on Sexuality and Reproduction. In the Intensive English Centres, some of the lessons were taught as single sex lessons and parents were entitled to have their children excempted. Some Moslem parents did.

As I've said, if you want to impart your values to your child, then teach the child at home, as there are so many values that are acceptable in society now.

thats my whole point

[lilmikey]

this is just asanine.

how so?????