HHO Gas.....run a car on water???

[Evanescence]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen

Need Gandalf on this one...

These guys separate Hydrogen from water and make it burn....its called HHO gas. They claim its cheap and easy to separate it...

For right now, they are pushing the Hydrogen into the gasoline in the tank, so it bonds with the gasoline. It supposedly increases HP....

They claim you really can't compress it..its too unstable....wonder how true that is? This meaning you can't run a car alone on it...

This is pretty cool....and not a scam....wonder how it will play out though...

[Les_Is_More]

Check this out. This has potential. Salt water fuel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf4gOS8aoFk&feature=related

[Evanescence]

Been reading up on this now...2hrs later...

Here's a BIG company that sells the units for your car...

http://www.fuelfromh2o.com/index.html

Being involved with racing and building race motors, this is right up my alley...

OK, they separate the Hydrogen from the water by electrolisis....energizin g the water causes the molecules to separate. It creates HHO, Hydrogen and Oxygen gas.

The then purge this into the air breather where it mixes with the air/fuel that goes into the motor for ignition. It burns cooler, makes more power and gives you more MPG....

In most cases you pick up 20-30% more MPGs...in other cases with their bigger units, its near 60%.

The Hydrogen doesn't compress well so storing it is a problem....this is NOT the case with this unit. With this, it is ON-demand...as its needed, it is fed. There is no storing.....

You can't really run a car alone on hydrogen. It will run at idle but when you drive it..you make the engine work...which means more friction and heat....the Hydrogen will get too hot in the cylinder and melt the pistons.

I am thinking a thicker, better alloy piston, less timing and less compression could be enough to make it near 90% on hydrogen alone. A good fuel injection system would also be a good idea....

I'm thinking about buying a unit..they're 300.00. They come with a 100% money back guarantee....

Funny thing though...this technology.....as it is today has been around since the late 1800s....and the car companies never told us?

Hmmm..imagine that...

[Genna14]

Fascinating.

[Evanescence]

TTT

Gandalf, you around old man? :cool:

Thoughts?

How about Pouye?

Thoughts?

:cool:

[Pouye]

I've been following this technology a long time (over 18 years).

I wouldn't say that it is "cheap and easy" to separate Hydrogen from water. It takes energy to do so.

But that said, there are some energies that comes from natural sources, such as the sun, wind, rivers, tides, and under the earth (geothermal) -- all of which are constant and can be harnessed to produce hydrogen through electrolysis. There are also other ways to produce hydrogen, such as using sun light concentrators to super-heat water, or harnessing hydrogen as a waste product produced by certain microbes.

There are no cars that run on "water". Water has to have the hydrogen extracted from it, and hydrogen is not "water" any more than oxygen is "water".

Do you want to make hydrogen gas for an experiment? All you need is two pieces of wire, a 9V battery, and a glass of water with some salt stirred into it. place the wires into the water, close together but not touching. You will see bubbles coming off one of the wires -- this is hydrogen gas. It is highly flammable, but it also dissipates so quickly that it is not very dangerous (at least in small amounts).

You can run hydrogen in an internal combustion engine, but it must be engineered for it. Better to use the hydrogen in fuel cell technology to produce electric power, or use it to power an external combustion engine (like a Stirling engine. Ford has designed a hydrogen internal combustion engine, by the way. Mazda has been running one for years in an RX7

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