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WeaselInYerFoot
02-01-2008, 03:10 PM
For those who have an interest in what RP is doing...


Source (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/207/ron-paul-campaign-announces-addition-of-new-policy-advisors/)


Doug Bandow, Charles Peña and Philip Giraldi bolster foreign policy team

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Today, the Ron Paul 2008 presidential campaign is announcing the appointment of three new policy advisors. Doug Bandow has been appointed policy advisor to the campaign, while Charles Peña and Philip Giraldi have been named as foreign policy advisors.

Doug Bandow is a political writer and the Robert A. Taft Fellow with the American Conservative Defense Alliance. He has been widely published in leading newspapers and periodicals, and is the author of several books – including, most recently, Foreign Follies. Mr. Bandow served as a special assistant to President Ronald Reagan and as a senior policy analyst in the 1980 Reagan for President campaign.

Charles V. Peña is a senior fellow at the Independent Institute, a senior fellow with the Coalition for a Realistic Foreign Policy, a senior fellow with the George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute, and an adviser to the Straus Military Reform Project. Mr. Peña is the author of Winning the Un-War: A New Strategy for the War on Terrorism.

Philip Giraldi is a former officer of the Central Intelligence Agency who writes regularly on intelligence and foreign policy issues. Mr. Giraldi is a partner in an international security consultancy Cannistraro Associates, a contributing editor at The American Conservative magazine and a fellow at the American Conservative Defense Alliance.

To schedule an interview with Doug Bandow, Charles Peña, or Philip Giraldi please contact the campaign at 703-248-9115.

Organizations are listed for identification purposes only.

Jason
02-01-2008, 05:11 PM
And why is he still running? Does he think Super Tuesday will help him? Or does he just want his voice heard, knowing he won't win?

Jesuslove
02-01-2008, 05:16 PM
And why is he still running? Does he think Super Tuesday will help him? Or does he just want his voice heard, knowing he won't win?

He could be a viable third party candidate. He's a very intelligent man, with well thought out positions. He's the only Republican running for President who is against this war.

Jason
02-01-2008, 05:18 PM
He could be a viable third party candidate.

Except he has said he wouldn't do that.

in hiding
02-01-2008, 05:18 PM
And why is he still running? Does he think Super Tuesday will help him? Or does he just want his voice heard, knowing he won't win?
he just received endorsements from the american conservative magazine, louisiana GOP and only 7 states have voted so far so there's at least one or 2 left ;) it's def a long shot but msnbc is projecting a win in maine this weekend

this may be one reason to...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/news-shocker-ro.html
Well, it's official, ladies and gentlemen. Believe it or not, Rep. Ron Paul, the 72-year-old Texan who hardly ever gets mentioned in Republican political news and the one-time libertarian who always gets the least time on TV debates if he isn't barred completely, was, in fact, the most successful Republican fundraiser in the last three months of 2007.

By a Texas mile.

By the thousands, Paul's fervent followers donated $19.95 million to the "Ron Paul Revolution." He spent $17.75 million, and at year's end, had $7.8 million cash on hand, making him the only Republican candidate to increase his fundraising totals in every quarter of 2007. According to his website, Paul's Paulunteers have contributed another $4.1 million this month to...

fuel the strict constitutionalist's travels and advertising campaign.

Compare that impressive financial success with, say, ex-candidate Rudy Giuliani, who raised only $14.4 million from Oct. 1 to Dec. 31 and spent $18.2 million.

Or the departed Fred Thompson, who collected $8.9 million and spent $13.9 million.

Or even the newly-minted Republican front-runner Sen. John McCain, who raked in only $9.9 million, spent $10.5 million and had only $2.9 million cash in hand. Of course, McCain's string of primary victories in January will have boosted his financial fortunes. Everybody loves a winner.

Mitt Romney actually raised only $9.2 million from other people last quarter, less than half of Paul's haul. However, the former Massachusetts governor -- and if he keeps spending at this rate, the quite possibly former multimillionaire -- gave himself $18 million more of his own money last fall for a total of $27.2 million and $2.4 million cash on hand.

Jason
02-01-2008, 05:22 PM
this must be one reason...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/news-shocker-ro.html
Well, it's official, ladies and gentlemen. Believe it or not, Rep. Ron Paul, the 72-year-old Texan who hardly ever gets mentioned in Republican political news and the one-time libertarian who always gets the least time on TV debates if he isn't barred completely, was, in fact, the most successful Republican fundraiser in the last three months of 2007.

As Paul himself has proven, money does not equal votes.

in hiding
02-01-2008, 05:36 PM
As Paul himself has proven, money does not equal votes.

it does equal some votes; he does have delegates you know. I'm not dellusional; it's gonna be tough for him to win, but if you've got money, a message and a lot of supporters why not keep going til you can't???

WeaselInYerFoot
02-01-2008, 06:41 PM
And why is he still running? Does he think Super Tuesday will help him? Or does he just want his voice heard, knowing he won't win?

the Dr. has some tricks up his sleeve. I'm not expecting him to be nominated, but he's certainly up to something. I'd say that this whole campaign has been more about making more people aware and creating a movement, than about getting the presidency.

I can at least guarantee you that if all goes well, there will be another candidate with very similar views in 4 years.

WeaselInYerFoot
02-01-2008, 06:59 PM
Actually, I think the preface to RP's new book The Revolution: A Manifesto (http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manifesto-Ron-Paul/dp/0446537519/ref=pd_ts_b_3?ie=UTF8&s=books) can explain it better than I can. So I'll leave it to him:




Every election cycle we are treated to candidates who promise us "change," and 2008 has been no different. But in the American political lexicon, "change" always means more of the same: more government, more looting of Americans, more inflation, more police-state measures, more unnecessary war, and more centralization of power.

Real change would mean something like the opposite of those things. It might even involve following our Constitution. And that's the one option Americans are never permitted to hear....

With national bankruptcy looming, politicians from both parties continue to make multi-trillion dollar promises of "free" goods from the government, and hardly a soul wonders if we can still afford to have troops in - this is not a misprint - 130 countries around the world. All of this is going to come to an end sooner or later, because financial reality is going to make itself felt in very uncomfortable ways. But instead of thinking about what this means for how we conduct our foreign and domestic affairs, our chattering classes seem incapable of speaking in anything but the emptiest platitudes, when they can be bothered to address serious issues at all. Fundamental questions like this, and countless others besides, are off the table in our mainstream media, which focuses our attention on trivialities and phony debates as we march toward oblivion.

This is the deadening consensus that crosses party lines, that dominates our major media, and that is strangling the liberty and prosperity that were once the birthright of Americans. Dissenters who tell their fellow citizens what is really going on are subject to smear campaigns that, like clockwork, are aimed at the political heretic. Truth is treason in the empire of lies.

There is an alternative to national bankruptcy, a bigger police state, trillion-dollar wars, and a government that draws ever more parasitically on the productive energies of the American people. It's called freedom. But as we've learned through hard experience, we are not going to hear a word in its favor if our political and media establishments have anything to say about it.

If we want to live in a free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again. I am happy that my campaign for the presidency has finally raised some of them. But this is a long-term project that will persist far into the future. These ideas cannot be allowed to die, buried beneath the mind-numbing chorus of empty slogans and inanities that constitute official political discourse in America.

That is why I wrote this book.

~ Ron Paul

mat1583
02-01-2008, 07:18 PM
Actually, I think the preface to RP's new book The Revolution: A Manifesto (http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manifesto-Ron-Paul/dp/0446537519/ref=pd_ts_b_3?ie=UTF8&s=books) can explain it better than I can. So I'll leave it to him:

Wow.....I'm going to be ordering this one.

-washboard

Jason
02-01-2008, 07:19 PM
Since I haven't really posted who I'm supporting yet, I thought I better. I'm hoping for a McCain win. I obviously don't agree with McCain on everything, but he'll have my vote.

mat1583
02-01-2008, 07:22 PM
Since I haven't really posted who I'm supporting yet, I thought I better. I'm hoping for a McCain win. I obviously don't agree with McCain on everything, but he'll have my vote.

But why in this thread?

-washboard

Jason
02-01-2008, 07:52 PM
But why in this thread?

-washboard

To show my bias and because threads wander. Sorry.

clemsontigers23
02-01-2008, 08:07 PM
He could stop wasting people's money and drop out. That's all he's doing at this point.

danbos
02-01-2008, 11:40 PM
He could stop wasting people's money and drop out. That's all he's doing at this point.

Or maybe the media could stop making his money go to waste and actually give him some credit. You'd have to say the same thing for Huckabee as well. As far as delegates go, he's pretty much just as far out as Paul. Why only pick on Dr. Paul?

And people talk about Ron Paul supporters being unaccepting of other candidates...

clemsontigers23
02-01-2008, 11:53 PM
Or maybe the media could stop making his money go to waste and actually give him some credit. You'd have to say the same thing for Huckabee as well. As far as delegates go, he's pretty much just as far out as Paul. Why only pick on Dr. Paul?

And people talk about Ron Paul supporters being unaccepting of other candidates...

First of all, Huckabee's actually won a state. Second of all, the conversation is about Ron Paul, so I was talking about Ron Paul. You make a Huckabee conversation and we'll talk about Huckabee. I support both candidates and they're my two favorites as far as how well they match up with my beliefs (I love the idea of getting rid of NAFTA and the IRS), but both should drop out after Super Tuesday.

WeaselInYerFoot
02-02-2008, 03:27 AM
First of all, Huckabee's actually won a state. Second of all, the conversation is about Ron Paul, so I was talking about Ron Paul. You make a Huckabee conversation and we'll talk about Huckabee. I support both candidates and they're my two favorites as far as how well they match up with my beliefs (I love the idea of getting rid of NAFTA and the IRS), but both should drop out after Super Tuesday.

Ron Paul was weaseled out of a state because of some late caucus rule changes in LA. Maine is also looking promising. He was never targeting the early states, and hardly made any visits to FL. But either way, this isn't a popularity vote. It's about delegates. I don't expect him to get the nomination, but I think he'll play a big part in the election.

Rumor has it, that Huckabee will be dropping out after super duper Tuesday and will run as VP for McCain. (Heard on CNN and a couple of radio talk shows, one had some guy with a really squeaky voice, Mark something).

WeaselInYerFoot
02-02-2008, 01:22 PM
Since I haven't really posted who I'm supporting yet, I thought I better. I'm hoping for a McCain win. I obviously don't agree with McCain on everything, but he'll have my vote.

You want someone that doesn't even know much about economics (http://youtube.com/watch?v=oUZwL9GPcNw), and if you want more wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZCISY40qns) then it's your right. I'm not sure why some people want 4 more years of Bush, but if they're happy with the way things presently are then they should vote for McCain.

mat1583
02-02-2008, 03:27 PM
He could stop wasting people's money and drop out. That's all he's doing at this point.

If his supporters are still sending him money, then they must believe that it is not being wasted and for a good cause. As long as his message of liberty and freedom is being heard, then he's accomplishing at least one big goal. You're still talking about him, aren't you? If you believed in an idea so much, would you simply give up when the going gets tough?

-washboard

clemsontigers23
02-02-2008, 05:05 PM
If his supporters are still sending him money, then they must believe that it is not being wasted and for a good cause. As long as his message of liberty and freedom is being heard, then he's accomplishing at least one big goal. You're still talking about him, aren't you? If you believed in an idea so much, would you simply give up when the going gets tough?

-washboard

But it all comes down to results and unfortunately nobody's voting for him. There comes a time when you have to stop wasting money and time trying to win a battle that can't be won.

in hiding
02-02-2008, 07:46 PM
But it all comes down to results and unfortunately nobody's voting for him. There comes a time when you have to stop wasting money and time trying to win a battle that can't be won.

http://rosenblumtv.files.wordpre ss.com/2007/07/dewey_defeats_truman.jpg
When Truman went to bed November 2, he was losing the election. Upon arising the next morning he, of course, learned he had won. good thing he didn't give up and concede eh?

mat1583
02-02-2008, 08:05 PM
But it all comes down to results and unfortunately nobody's voting for him. There comes a time when you have to stop wasting money and time trying to win a battle that can't be won.

That's up to his supporters to decide. I am a donating supporter, and I want him to continue on as long as he can. I want his message to be heard because he can spread it to many more people than I can.

-washboard

WeaselInYerFoot
02-03-2008, 03:38 AM
Ron Paul hasn't lost.



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These are people carrying his views (most of who have never run for congress, and were inspired to by Ron Paul). He may not get the presidency, but there is a great number of people that have changed because of his attempt.