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cheewiee
01-23-2008, 01:15 PM
Who do you think will be the GOP Nominee...

in hiding
01-23-2008, 03:09 PM
who i think: romney

who i hope: paul

HotWireD
01-23-2008, 03:39 PM
I voted Romney, but I think Paul would make a better President.

rossid
01-23-2008, 05:21 PM
Caucused for Huckabee. Will vote for McCain if he is the nominee.

mat1583
01-23-2008, 05:25 PM
I voted that romney will get the nod...

but I HOPE FOR AMERICA AND FREEDOM that Ron Paul defeats the neo-cons.

-washboard

Jason
01-23-2008, 05:29 PM
I voted for McCain. Just as long as it's not Giuliani or Romney.

Incidentally, my friend Wilbur was McCain's landscaper for many years.

sandyandporter
01-23-2008, 05:39 PM
I voted for McCain. Just as long as it's not Giuliani or Romney.

Incidentally, my friend Wilbur was McCain's landscaper for many years.

You have friends? ;)

I said I THINK it will be McCain. I wish it would be Ron Paul.

danbos
01-23-2008, 11:06 PM
I'm hoping for Ron Paul. I'd probably vote for Huckabee if he gets the nomination. Otherwise I'll be writing in Ron Paul.

Gandalf
01-24-2008, 12:14 AM
Has no one noticed that Romney has the lead in total votes and in delegates?

Valpo
01-24-2008, 12:25 AM
Has no one noticed that Romney has the lead in total votes and in delegates?

He's also won two states that have no symbolic value, whereas McCain won both first in the nation primaries. First in the nation NH and first in the south, South Carolina.

Gandalf
01-24-2008, 01:09 AM
He's also won two states that have no symbolic value, whereas McCain won both first in the nation primaries. First in the nation NH and first in the south, South Carolina.
And McCain won NH in 2000 as well, and got a lower percentage of the vote in SC this time around than in 2000 ... and fared even more poorly among the Republicans who were voting (open primaries allow anyone to vote in them). The media loves McCain because he's pretty much a Democrat, but that's different from conservatives actually favoring him...

bdfwinn
01-24-2008, 10:28 AM
The media loves McCain because he's pretty much a Democrat, but that's different from conservatives actually favoring him...

True! He disregards the Constitution at almost every turn. His name is on a bill passed by NEO-CONS and signed by a Neo-Con president that tramples on the First Amendment. McCain/Fiengold anyone? The First Amendment never mentions pornography or "artful expression" but specifically protects POLITICAL Speech. John McCain is not a Conservative and he is wrong for America. I'll vote for Romney if Paul is not on my ballot.

Bill

mat1583
01-24-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm hoping for Ron Paul. I'd probably vote for Huckabee if he gets the nomination. Otherwise I'll be writing in Ron Paul.

Ditto, most likely. I wouldn't mind writing in freedom on the ballot :)

-washboard

Valpo
01-24-2008, 11:18 AM
And McCain won NH in 2000 as well, and got a lower percentage of the vote in SC this time around than in 2000 ... and fared even more poorly among the Republicans who were voting (open primaries allow anyone to vote in them). The media loves McCain because he's pretty much a Democrat, but that's different from conservatives actually favoring him...

Oh right and Mitt Romney is some model Conservative Republican?? That is laughable! They guy panders and changes positions according to whichever office he is running for, and he has only run one major campaign, as the MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR. That's right, the SAME Massachusetts that allows Gay Marriage. You cannot be elected governor of that state without being a really liberal Republican or Democrat. Romney is just a slick liar. He spoon fed Michigan voters what they wanted to hear instead of offering real solutions to a desolate and desperate situation up there. So called real Conservatives problems with Romney are his stance on torture, McCain-Feingold, and Immigration Bill. Damn a politician who actually tried doing somehting instead of just taking an unrealistic stance and not compromising so that nothing got done. He acknowledged failure on immigration and credited the public for that and stated his first priority is to secure the borders. McCain Feingold was a noble idea which in reality could use some tweaking. Funny thing with Kennedy, Romney had him at a bill signing when he was governor of massachusetts because kennedy supported and encouraged the very same bill.

Yet people buy into the Romney nonsense. John McCain is against pork barrel projects, was consistently and always right on what to do in Iraq, has a strong and CONSISTENT pro life record, unlike Mr. Romney, and if you want to know what else he is about visit his website and read about him. Don't listen to Rush Limbaugh's talking points or any other so called true conservative out there who bashes him open. This country needs a uniter, and McCain, while staying true to Republican values, would be able to reach across the aisle and work with Democrats. My gosh, what a novel idea, a government and country that worked together.

rossid
01-24-2008, 04:29 PM
I voted that romney will get the nod...

but I HOPE FOR AMERICA AND FREEDOM that Ron Paul defeats the neo-cons.

-washboardThat occurred to me late yesterday, after my post, that it may be Mitt.

Valpo
01-24-2008, 05:45 PM
I'll vote for Romney if Paul is not on my ballot.

Bill

Thanks for your scathing Limbaugh/Levin-esque torching of McCain sans any facts. But aside from that I am baffled by your "second choice" of Mitt Romney. I don't think Romney and Paul could be any further a part. I'm not even suggesting McCain's a logical second choice for Paul supporters, but Mitt Romney? No way.

Also I gotta address something else Brian pointed out. Brian stated McCain received less percentage of the vote in SC than he did in 2000. Well how shocking is that really? In 2000 it was essentially a two man horse race between Bush and McCain (sorry Keyes). Going into South Carolina this time around 4 men were viable candidates in the state. Not too hard to see why he didn't garner as many votes or more, it was split between more men.

Jason
01-24-2008, 06:32 PM
Romney? No way. Never. I do not want someone that can be deluded by the Mormon faith running our nation.

Jesuslove
01-24-2008, 06:54 PM
I will be voting in New Jersey (not Delaware) on Super Tuesday. If Ron Paul fails to do well in Florida, I will vote for Huckabee, as I feel he will have no chance against the Democrats in the Presidential election. For me, it's either Ron Paul or a Democrat.

Valpo
01-24-2008, 07:02 PM
I will be voting in New Jersey (not Delaware) on Super Tuesday. If Ron Paul fails to do well in Florida, I will vote for Huckabee, as I feel he will have no chance against the Democrats in the Presidential election. For me, it's either Ron Paul or a Democrat.

Why not vote for a Democrat? I was unaware New Jersey is an open primary, pretty interesting.

Jesuslove
01-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Why not vote for a Democrat? I was unaware New Jersey is an open primary, pretty interesting.

What do you mean by an open primary? I've voted in NJ my whole life and chose the candidate I wanted, no matter which side of the ballot. If I recall correctly, one has to declare which party they will vote for prior to going into the booth (for a primary). I could be wrong though.. it's been 4 years since I last voted in a primary.

And I vote in NJ because NJ has more delegates than DE. Having residences in both states, I have that option.

SueQ
01-24-2008, 07:16 PM
Has no one noticed that Romney has the lead in total votes and in delegates?

The guy panders and changes positions according to whichever office he is running for.......Romney is just a slick liar....Yet people buy into the Romney nonsense......

......which is why I voted that Romney would (not should) probably, at this point, get the nod.....

clemsontigers23
01-24-2008, 07:33 PM
Romney won't get it. McCain is the only candidate who's beating the Democrats in ANY poll. If Romney got it it would be the largest landslide victory in the history of the election. The guy can't make up his mind.

Valpo
01-24-2008, 07:51 PM
What do you mean by an open primary? I've voted in NJ my whole life and chose the candidate I wanted, no matter which side of the ballot. If I recall correctly, one has to declare which party they will vote for prior to going into the booth (for a primary). I could be wrong though.. it's been 4 years since I last voted in a primary.

And I vote in NJ because NJ has more delegates than DE. Having residences in both states, I have that option.

Open Primary that you do not have to be a Republican to vote Republican, Democrat to vote Democrat. I'm pretty sure you've stated you're a registered Independent, and the fact you can walk in and declare what party no matter what party you are registered for, answered my question. So i was wondering why you would vote for huckabee instead of a democrat you may like.

WeaselInYerFoot
01-24-2008, 07:55 PM
The only reason McCain would stand a chance at beating Hillary/Obama is because once November comes, the people would have the difficult choice of voting for one of TWO democrats.

There's a reason why Lieberman endorsed him.

Valpo
01-24-2008, 08:00 PM
The only reason McCain would stand a chance at beating Hillary/Obama is because once November comes, the people would have the difficult choice of voting for one of TWO democrats.

There's a reason why Lieberman endorsed him.

Yeah because he understands the danger of a real and present enemy in islamic terrorists unlike your candidate who is going nowhere fast.

bdfwinn
01-24-2008, 08:52 PM
Yeah because he understands the danger of a real and present enemy in islamic terrorists unlike your candidate who is going nowhere fast.

Ron Paul may be "going nowhere fast" but he will not compromise his beliefs and his adherance to the Constitution. McCain does not know nor respect the Constitution.

Medling in the internal affairs of other countries is not conservative. McCan't is not a conservative.

Bill

WeaselInYerFoot
01-24-2008, 09:22 PM
Yeah because he understands the danger of a real and present enemy in islamic terrorists unlike your candidate who is going nowhere fast.

What can I say? truth isn't popular.

This real and present Islamic enemy is still sitting in a cave while Mr. McCain and others justify meddling with what was originally the most secular country in the region.

But unlike some, I'd prefer him over Huckabee or the Ghoul any day. (Doesn't mean I'll vote for him if he's nominated though).

in hiding
01-25-2008, 11:30 AM
Romney won't get it. McCain is the only candidate who's beating the Democrats in ANY poll. If Romney got it it would be the largest landslide victory in the history of the election. The guy can't make up his mind.

a romney v clinton election would not be a landslide. there are a lot of republicans who aren't fans of romney but definitely vote for clinton and would by default vote for romney...think kerry v bush 4 years ago.

in hiding
01-25-2008, 11:34 AM
This is where and why the Paul movement has so little respect. There is no engaging of other people. It's 100% we're right/ you're wrong. To say John McCain does not know or respect the Constitution is a ridiculous and uninformed statement. All of the sudden a congressman from Texas runs for President and we have millions of Constitutional experts without degrees in Politics or Law in this country. How about...I disagree with John McCain on the War in Iraq, or his McCain Feingold Bill or his stance on immigration, and offer concrete/realistic alternatives instead of "McCan't doesn't respect the Constitution!"

as a fan of ron paul, you hit the nail on the head. To insinuate that mccain doesn't know or respect the consitution is laughable. I admire the fire the supporters have for ron paul; they have helped tremendously, but sometimes it does get the best of them (i'll throw myself into that camp at times as well)

bdfwinn
01-25-2008, 01:39 PM
Do you think the Founding Fathers would look at McCain/Feingold and say "Good job fellas."? Nobody said we're right you're wrong but any intellectually honest person must agree that McCain is not conservative. Maybe McCain does know the Constitution but he certainly does not respect free political speech. I mean that is the First Amendment you don't even have to "bore" yourself with a lengthy read of the Bill of Rights to get to that one. Two of my first cousins are lawyers and they both were shocked at John McCain co-authoring McCain Feingold and even more shocked that GWB signed it- they both like Paul by the way but agree he hasn't a prayer as long as we continue to accept the slow but sure erosion of our freedoms. My father-in-law lives in Arizona and voted for McCain but after McCain/Feingold he said, "Never again will I vote for this man." My father-in-law doesn't own any guns but is a member of the NRA because they fight for the Constitution. McCain/Feingold addresses a real problem but circumventing our liberty guaranteed by the Constitution is not the way to solve anything!

The "Ron Paul movement" is not the Ron Paul movement. It is a freedom and liberty movement. We are saying, "Give us back our Constitutional freedoms that democrats and neo-cons have taken from us."


Bill

Debbie
01-27-2008, 01:28 AM
Decided to take a moment and chime in on the posting in this thread after taking a gander through it.

Let's all remember, voting is a previledge in our country and we are entitled to vote for whom we please and for whatever reason. Each of us can state our case about the candidate we are favoring while also sharing what we know about the other candidates. However, we cannot and should not bash the others point of view or opinion, this only leads into other unecessary insults. We have a long way to go yet with much to be discovered and discussed.

So please, let's treat each other with the greatest of respect!

Mucho Blessings!