Is there no "Bill"-ary Clinton thread?

[rossid]

Local news online headline:

Chelsea Clinton Sticks To No Press Promise

VINTON, Iowa -- It's one thing for Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign to turn down interview requests for the candidate's daughter, Chelsea. But can't a 9-year old reporter catch a break?

Sydney Rieckhoff, a Cedar Rapids fourth grader and "kid reporter" for Scholastic News, approached the 27-year-old Chelsea after a campaign event Saturday. She asked Chelsea if she thought her dad would be a good 'first man' in the White House.
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Chelsea told the pint-size journalist that she isn't talking to the press. The rule applies to the girl, she said, even though Chelsea thought she was cute.

Such is the paradox of Chelsea as she campaigns across Iowa in the closing days before the state's caucuses. Famously protective of their daughter's privacy, Bill and Hillary Clinton have taken pains to shield Chelsea from the harsh glare and rough edges of presidential politics.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press.

http://www.kcci.com/politics/14950246/detail.html

We need to remember this if Chelsea ever has a daughter.

[Jesuslove]

Good for the Clintons and good for Chelsea.
Chelsea has grown up to be a very successful young woman. I applaud her parents for raising such a responsible, good, wholesome child.


Local news online headline:

Chelsea Clinton Sticks To No Press Promise

VINTON, Iowa -- It's one thing for Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign to turn down interview requests for the candidate's daughter, Chelsea. But can't a 9-year old reporter catch a break?

Sydney Rieckhoff, a Cedar Rapids fourth grader and "kid reporter" for Scholastic News, approached the 27-year-old Chelsea after a campaign event Saturday. She asked Chelsea if she thought her dad would be a good 'first man' in the White House.
sponsor

Chelsea told the pint-size journalist that she isn't talking to the press. The rule applies to the girl, she said, even though Chelsea thought she was cute.

Such is the paradox of Chelsea as she campaigns across Iowa in the closing days before the state's caucuses. Famously protective of their daughter's privacy, Bill and Hillary Clinton have taken pains to shield Chelsea from the harsh glare and rough edges of presidential politics.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press.

http://www.kcci.com/politics/14950246/detail.html

We need to remember this if Chelsea ever has a daughter.

[rossid]

Good for the Clintons and good for Chelsea.
Chelsea has grown up to be a very successful young woman. I applaud her parents for raising such a responsible, good, wholesome child.

Okay, while she may be more good and wholesome than Jamie Lynn Spears, refusing to talk to a nine-year old is not responsible. You are on the campaign trail and it is hypocritical not to talk to the press.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton

Highlights:

Her parents were "firm but fair".

"In the fall of 2006, she left McKinsey and went to work for Avenue Capital, a hedge fund run by Marc Lasry, a loyal donor to Democratic causes generally, and heavy supporter of the Clintons." So don't put the Clintons up as being less cronyisting(is that the correct word) than the Bushes. And I'm not saying you said that. This is to combat the attacks on Bush by 777.

"In December 2007, Chelsea campaigned for her mother's Democratic presidential primary in Iowa, greeting potential voters at Palmer's Deli in Des Moines, joined by her mother."

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

[middletree]

I disagree, rossid. I don't see a conflict between not talking to the press yet campaigning for her mom.

[Jesuslove]

I disagree, rossid. I don't see a conflict between not talking to the press yet campaigning for her mom.

I agree. And she is a wholesome girl. She has not one blemish. And there is little doubt if she burped wrong, the press would pick it up. I'm not going to debate between the Bush twins and Chelsea, but I think there is a difference between them and the way they were raised.

[allyoop]

I know that the twins did stuff that Chelsea did not, and I do not follow them closely, but I saw a interview of Jenna Bush with Diane Sawyer about Jenna's involvement in the Carribbean with UNICEF and to me she appears to have matured and really have a heart for the poor in that region.

[middletree]

I'm not going to debate between the Bush twins and Chelsea, but I think there is a difference between them and the way they were raised.

Actually, you started a debate with this statement. The Bush twins have turned out to be just as upstanding as Chelsea. The fact that they drank when they were 19 doesn't change who they are now.

[SueQ]

How do we know that Chelsea never tasted alcohol before legal age? Are not her parents prone to hiding things.......yes, yes, I know most politicians are...:rolleyes: ......let's not assume things we do not know.....and, btw, let's leave the kids alone....it was not their choice to be in the limelight....

[Jesuslove]

How do we know that Chelsea never tasted alcohol before legal age? Are not her parents prone to hiding things.......yes, yes, I know most politicians are...:rolleyes: ......let's not assume things we do not know.....and, btw, let's leave the kids alone....it was not their choice to be in the limelight....

i agree. they did not choose to be in the limelight. that's why when I saw this thread, I thought, "who cares if Chelsea is keeping her mouth shut".

To Middletree: As for the Bush twins, you are right. It seems as if they have taken on some major causes like caring for the poor and those stricken with HIV. I give them a lot of credit. They could have made easier choices and lived the high life. Now if they could only enligten their father.

[middletree]

To Middletree: As for the Bush twins, you are right. It seems as if they have taken on some major causes like caring for the poor and those stricken with HIV. I give them a lot of credit. They could have made easier choices and lived the high life. Now if they could only enligten their father.

Actually George does care about HIV victims, and has initiated a lot of things to deal with that problem in Africa. And as for caring for the poor, like I said before, it is not my view that cutting taxes further for a group of people that pays a very small amount of taxes to begin with is equivalent to "caring for the poor."

[Jesuslove]

Actually George does care about HIV victims, and has initiated a lot of things to deal with that problem in Africa. And as for caring for the poor, like I said before, it is not my view that cutting taxes further for a group of people that pays a very small amount of taxes to begin with is equivalent to "caring for the poor."

He has contributed more to HIV relief in Africa, and Bill Clinton's personal charity has done so as well. Bush hasn't done much to stem the spread of HIV in America. There is so much that needs to be done. HIV is no longer deemed a "gay disease". It's a disease that affects everyone. We need leadership in America related to fighting HIV.

As for cutting taxes.... we do not need tax cuts. We're in significant debt. Our government, and particularly GWB should practice fiscal responsibility. Instead, generations of our children to come will be paying back the siginficant deficit GWB is leaving for us.

[middletree]

Bush hasn't done much to stem the spread of HIV in America.

That's another topic. What you said in your previous post was that he didn't seem to care about HIV victims, and I disagree. I think he's a very compassionate man.

Now, how the heck is a President supposed to stem the spread of HIV in this or any country? Have a news conference and tell people to stop having sex outside of marriage?

A lot of things fall under the job description of President, but controlling bedroom behavior is not one of them. HIV is spread because of rampant promiscuity, period.

As for cutting taxes.... we do not need tax cuts. We're in significant debt. Our government, and particularly GWB should practice fiscal responsibility. Instead, generations of our children to come will be paying back the siginficant deficit GWB is leaving for us.

I only mentioned tax cuts because you did, in the other thread. Or was it this one? Anyway, the rampant spending by politicians did not start with Bush, nor will it end with him. The ones to blame are us, the voters. We vote for candidates who promise to spend money on things that are important to us. You have already mentioned that HIV prevention is important to you. Every citizen tells every CongressHuman and President that they want them to save money, but then they complain if money is not spent on what they deem important. Candidates have learned a long time ago that the way to win votes is to buy them. This is neither Bush nor Clinton's fault. It's a political reality, and any candidate that has proposed anything otherwise has failed to get elected.

And please don't tell me that Clinton had a budget surplus. That was accounting trickery, and such a surplus never existed.

[Genna14]

I was raised in an upstanding Christian home with only the best examples and only Christian friends and yet I got drunk when I was 19 also.

Big deal.

Leave them alone! They're kids, kids do stupid things. Mom didnt run around having a fit because I came home drunk! She loved me through it all and didn't make a huge deal out of it. We even joke about it now.

Its not our job as the American public to judge these kids. They know the difference between right and wrong, we ALL make poor choices. Not one person on here is above that.

I just dont feel an abundance of love for public personalities on this board. Its growing old. Only God knows their hearts, only He knows their parents hearts.

It seems to me that these girls were raised to the best of their parents abilities. Just because they were raised in the public eye, NORMAL trials, like underage drinking can be blown completely out of proportion.

[Jesuslove]

I was raised in an upstanding Christian home with only the best examples and only Christian friends and yet I got drunk when I was 19 also.

Big deal.

Leave them alone! They're kids, kids do stupid things. Mom didnt run around having a fit because I came home drunk! She loved me through it all and didn't make a huge deal out of it. We even joke about it now.

Its not our job as the American public to judge these kids. They know the difference between right and wrong, we ALL make poor choices. Not one person on here is above that.

I just dont feel an abundance of love for public personalities on this board. Its growing old. Only God knows their hearts, only He knows their parents hearts.

It seems to me that these girls were raised to the best of their parents abilities. Just because they were raised in the public eye, NORMAL trials, like underage drinking can be blown completely out of proportion.

I agree. That's why I thought this thread, which was intended to be a slam against Clelsea, was wrong.

[Mr.Elwood]

See, now I think there is a difference.
The tabloid attack on the Bush daughters was just that, tabloid mentality.
Chelsea was pretty well insulated from anything outside politics. I think everyone in the media did a fairly good job leaving her alone (except the UK tabs) because she stayed away from the general mayhem surrounding mom and dad.

Now: Chelsea, a full grown female adult, has CHOSEN to join her parents on the campaign trail. That CHOICE makes her a valid individual in the CLINTON campaign to question regarding how the election will go.
Not asking her a question because of some false sense of privacy, is like not asking a salesman a question regarding financing terms for a car. If you just accept what they give you you’re a moron and should be driving. If you accept what a politician tells you, and don’t ask questions, you’re a moron and shouldn’t be voting.

If you are part of a campaign then you are accessible to the media. If you are not accessible then clearly you have things you don’t want to talk about and those are the questions we need to be asking.

What kind of politician is so weak in character that they can’t handle the press? President Bush stumbled often while trying to tame the press, but now seems to have got them pretty well healed. What is the Clintons campaign problem with talking to the press?

[Jesuslove]

If you are part of a campaign then you are accessible to the media. If you are not accessible then clearly you have things you don’t want to talk about and those are the questions we need to be asking.

What kind of politician is so weak in character that they can’t handle the press? President Bush stumbled often while trying to tame the press, but now seems to have got them pretty well healed. What is the Clintons campaign problem with talking to the press?

Hillary is very accessable to the press. She is running for office. Chelsea is campaigning for her Mom but has chosen not to do interviews. Most people who campaign for someone else do not independently hold interviews. I don't know why conservative Christians feel it's acceptable to beat up on Hillary, but protect Bush.

My issue with conservative Christians or their representatives is that they tend not to take responsibility for their actions. Conservative Christians in America elected Bush. Bush is responsible for this war. Nearly a million Iraqis have died do to GWB's lies. We were attacked by AlQueda because our foreign policy has been oppressive over the years. We are hated more than ever abroad. Our foreign policy under Bush has been the worst ever. Yet on 9/11, Christian leaders like Robertson and Flawell turn around and blame liberals, abortionists, gays, etc. It's not like these groups elected Bush. It was the conservative Christians. Moral issues aren't all Republican or Democratic. Although Bush has proclaimed his Christian beliefs, he hasn't delivered.

[Mr.Elwood]

Hillary is very accessable to the press. She is running for office. Chelsea is campaigning for her Mom but has chosen not to do interviews. Most people who campaign for someone else do not independently hold interviews. I don't know why conservative Christians feel it's acceptable to beat up on Hillary, but protect Bush.

My issue with conservative Christians or their representatives is that they tend not to take responsibility for their actions. Conservative Christians in America elected Bush. Bush is responsible for this war. Nearly a million Iraqis have died do to GWB's lies. We were attacked by AlQueda because our foreign policy has been oppressive over the years. We are hated more than ever abroad. Our foreign policy under Bush has been the worst ever. Yet on 9/11, Christian leaders like Robertson and Flawell turn around and blame liberals, abortionists, gays, etc. It's not like these groups elected Bush. It was the conservative Christians. Moral issues aren't all Republican or Democratic. Although Bush has proclaimed his Christian beliefs, he hasn't delivered.

What are you talking about??
Chelsea is publicly onstage performing for her mother. She will be part of the White House should her mother win. She is not an innocent child anymore and can, and probably will, make opinions regarding domestic and foreign affairs.

The press has every right to question her, or at a minimum request interviews. If she is unwilling to give interviews, or show the public some extension of her morals and political views, then we have a duty to be suspicious of her, and the Clinton campaign as whole for not letting her talk.

It was the same, and still is some aspects, for President Bush and various topics he ignores or deflects while answering questions from the press.

Political affiliation or religion has nothing to do with my post

[rossid]

Bush is responsible for this war.

IMHO this is as true as Jews being responsible for Jesus' crucifixion.

[middletree]

Now: Chelsea, a full grown female adult, has CHOSEN to join her parents on the campaign trail. That CHOICE makes her a valid individual in the CLINTON campaign to question regarding how the election will go.
Not asking her a question because of some false sense of privacy, is like not asking a salesman a question regarding financing terms for a car.

I disagree. I think the press has a right to ask her anything, but she is entitled to not answer, which is what she did.

She didn't complain that the press shouldn't ask her anything. She said that if they do ask, she is going to exercise her right to not answer. I have no problem with this. She doesn't owe anybody,and no person owes anybody, any answers to any questions. Those who want answers from her can therefore exercise their right to vote for someone else.

[middletree]

My issue with conservative Christians or their representatives is that they tend not to take responsibility for their actions.

This is my view of liberals.

[rossid]

IMHO a nine-year old is not the press...

[middletree]

IMHO a nine-year old is not the press...
Again, she can refuse to answer any questions that anyone asks her, whether it's a kid representing the school paper or an actual media member.

[Mr.Elwood]

I disagree. I think the press has a right to ask her anything, but she is entitled to not answer, which is what she did.


Oh, absolutely; I have no problem with someone not actually answering questions. Evading and deflecting questions is all part of the political game. I just wanted to toss my thoughts on what looked like a trend, in this thread, to say that even asking her was bad form. Clearly I think she is now fair game for becoming part of the campaign trail.

[clemsontigers23]

IMHO this is as true as Jews being responsible for Jesus' crucifixion.

Bingo. If you wanna blame somebody, blame Dick Cheney and the faulty intelligence the CIA gave Bush.

[Jesuslove]

Well if Dick Cheney is at fault, he should have been fired a long time ago by Bush.

Bingo. If you wanna blame somebody, blame Dick Cheney and the faulty intelligence the CIA gave Bush.

[rossid]

Bingo. If you wanna blame somebody, blame Dick Cheney and the faulty intelligence the CIA gave Bush.
No disagreement here that bad information was given. But maybe I've been watching too much Frontline. :P
Well if Dick Cheney is at fault, he should have been fired a long time ago by Bush.
Dick is too valuable. :cool:

[rossid]

Quarterback for the Packers...

In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting QB
for the Packers this coming Sunday. Deanna asserts that she is
qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years
married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. During this period
of time she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, and
is now completely comfortable with other terminology of the Packers
offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled
supported the move.

Does this sound idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton
makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50%
of democrats polled agreed. She has never run a city, county, or state.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the
White House, Dick Morris stated "so has the pastry chef".

*bops over to TDSN*

[clemsontigers23]

so has the pastry chef...haha priceless. :D

[lilmikey]

Local news online headline:

Chelsea Clinton Sticks To No Press Promise

VINTON, Iowa -- It's one thing for Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign to turn down interview requests for the candidate's daughter, Chelsea. But can't a 9-year old reporter catch a break?

Sydney Rieckhoff, a Cedar Rapids fourth grader and "kid reporter" for Scholastic News, approached the 27-year-old Chelsea after a campaign event Saturday. She asked Chelsea if she thought her dad would be a good 'first man' in the White House.
sponsor

Chelsea told the pint-size journalist that she isn't talking to the press. The rule applies to the girl, she said, even though Chelsea thought she was cute.

Such is the paradox of Chelsea as she campaigns across Iowa in the closing days before the state's caucuses. Famously protective of their daughter's privacy, Bill and Hillary Clinton have taken pains to shield Chelsea from the harsh glare and rough edges of presidential politics.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press.

http://www.kcci.com/politics/14950246/detail.html

We need to remember this if Chelsea ever has a daughter.

Great another traitor from the Clinton Crime Family:rolleyes: :mad:

[Jesuslove]

Quarterback for the Packers...

In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting QB
for the Packers this coming Sunday. Deanna asserts that she is
qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years
married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. During this period
of time she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, and
is now completely comfortable with other terminology of the Packers
offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled
supported the move.

Does this sound idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton
makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50%
of democrats polled agreed. She has never run a city, county, or state.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the
White House, Dick Morris stated "so has the pastry chef".

*bops over to TDSN*

Unlike Mike Huckabee who ran a state..... right into the ground. He blew the budget out of the water... Now that's leadership! :rolleyes:

[cheewiee]

Unlike Mike Huckabee who ran a state..... right into the ground. He blew the budget out of the water... Now that's leadership! :rolleyes:

Huckabee's record, doesn't validate the argument presented....

The fact is, Hillary has 8 years of Federal Government experience that she put on her own resume. She in talking about her experience makes it seem like she is a Career politician, when she isn't.

I am shocked and chigrined that at the Dem Presidental Debate in New Hampsire none of the other Dem Candidtates failed to call her out on it.

[rossid]

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/29/one-by-one-angry-liberals-turn-their-backs-on-team-clinton/

I did not know this:

"Though the Clintons have been staring at a lot of backs recently, it’s not a full-scale rebellion. As Ted, Caroline and Patrick Kennedy endorsed Obama, three other Kennedys endorsed Clinton."

[Jesuslove]

Huckabee's record, doesn't validate the argument presented....

The fact is, Hillary has 8 years of Federal Government experience that she put on her own resume. She in talking about her experience makes it seem like she is a Career politician, when she isn't.

I am shocked and chigrined that at the Dem Presidental Debate in New Hampsire none of the other Dem Candidtates failed to call her out on it.
GWB was in office the last 8 years during this record spending spree.... and a good part of the last eight years, the Republicans have had a majority.

Compare the economic situation when Clinton left office to the economic situation now. We're in bad shape.

[rossid]

GWB was in office the last 8 years during this record spending spree.... and a good part of the last eight years, the Republicans have had a majority.

Compare the economic situation when Clinton left office to the economic situation now. We're in bad shape.This spending drives me crazy. What good is it that he now says earmarks will end?